I have tren gyno bromo?

[morton30]

A few weeks ago i made a thread asking about b6 vs caber. you all said caber would be better but after scouring the net the past week i have not found anywhere in the uk that sells caber. so i have been using this b6 for a week at 600mg a day i woke up this morning with bb sized lumps under my nipples i have found somwhere in the uk where i can buy 6 bromo when people talk about the bromo that helps tren gyno it never has a 6 in front of it and the desciption just says its a test booster but would this be the same stuff would i be able to finish my cycle or do i have to get off the tren to reverse or at the very least stop the gyno? its a shame because i have had some bad side effects from this tren especially mental ones and it would be a shame to stop on week 5 just as it has kicked in o yea i have now started taking arimidex 0.5mg every day since i have noticed the gyno any help would be most appreciated

[KennyJ]

A few weeks ago i made a thread asking about b6 vs caber. you all said caber would be better but after scouring the net the past week i have not found anywhere in the uk that sells caber. so i have been using this b6 for a week at 600mg a day i woke up this morning with bb sized lumps under my nipples i have found somwhere in the uk where i can buy 6 bromo when people talk about the bromo that helps tren gyno it never has a 6 in front of it and the desciption just says its a test booster but would this be the same stuff would i be able to finish my cycle or do i have to get off the tren to reverse or at the very least stop the gyno? its a shame because i have had some bad side effects from this tren especially mental ones and it would be a shame to stop on week 5 just as it has kicked in o yea i have now started taking arimidex 0.5mg every day since i have noticed the gyno any help would be most appreciated

Some people take nolva at the first sign and they say it can help but you will want to continue only enough adex to get your E to a proper level. You definitely don’t want to crush your E levels down too low. Just a thought but some others will chime in with some better advice than I can give.

[morton30]

Yea i have looked at nolva but i have read that it can make the situation worse because it make progesterone higher

[Windex]

For starter, 0.5 mg of Arimidex every single day is crazy, you will completely nuke your estrogen - how did you arrive at that number? Drugs like Tamoxifen and Arimidex were never created for bodybuilders, it's just a byproduct that they are effective for specific issues. They are heavy drugs not to be used willy nilly.


Instead of guessing whether the problem is prolactin or estrogen based and using arbitrary doses of drugs you should get bloodwork done and go from there.

The few anecdotes I've seen of people using Bromo usually ends up with them feeling awful/flu-like. Because caber and prami is so readily available, there isn't the same depth of information with Tren+Bromo. There are people from UK here that cylcle and use Caber with Tren, so I would recommend investing more time into research. Pramiplexol is an alternative to Caber but some people also feel awful and lethargic using it. Use this experience for learning in the future - don't cycle if you don't have everything on hand and make sure you understand the ins and outs of drugs you are putting into your body.

[morton30]

For starter, 0.5 mg of Arimidex every single day is crazy, you will completely nuke your estrogen - how did you arrive at that number? Drugs like Tamoxifen and Arimidex were never created for bodybuilders, it's just a byproduct that they are effective for specific issues. They are heavy drugs not to be used willy nilly.


Instead of guessing whether the problem is prolactin or estrogen based and using arbitrary doses of drugs you should get bloodwork done and go from there.

The few anecdotes I've seen of people using Bromo usually ends up with them feeling awful/flu-like. Because caber and prami is so readily available, there isn't the same depth of information with Tren+Bromo. There are people from UK here that cylcle and use Caber with Tren, so I would recommend investing more time into research. Pramiplexol is an alternative to Caber but some people also feel awful and lethargic using it. Use this experience for learning in the future - don't cycle if you don't have everything on hand and make sure you understand the ins and outs of drugs you are putting into your body.

Thanks for the reply windex as far as i know tren shows up as estrogen in blood tests plus im using my trt dose with tren 200mg a week witch i have been on for months and never had any problems untill i introduced tren witch makes me think it is prolactin. i will just have to keep looking for Caber i sppose but if i do find it can i finish the tren cycle or do you think i should stop it now

[redz]

Your assumption is miss informed. You need blood work just because it happened after adding Tren does not mean it’s prolactin and even if it is there may be an underlying estrogen problem.

[morton30]

So if i was to use caber and arimadex could I finish my tren cycle?

[morton30]

Bump. I have caber coming tomorrow

[redz]

Bloodwork is the best choice

[GearHeaded]

blood work would be great.. but my guess, your only 5 weeks in. Tren does not aromatize into estrogen and your estrogen is likely not going to be super high (not sure what other AAS your taking though). Also your likely not going to see elevated progesterone or prolactin either.
so your still not going to know the cause of your gyno symptoms.

but its likely that your progestin sensitive (tren being a progestin derived compound has the ability to interact with the progesterone receptors, APART from elevated progesterone levels). and your thus being very sensitive to estrogen now (even if you estrogen is no higher then it used to be, your just now super sensitive to it).
so your gyno symptoms are simply estrogen based, like most all gyno always is. an AI is not going to help much in your case, again you estrogen is probably no higher then it was , its just now your breast tissue is super sensitive to it because of the Tren progestin effects. you don't need an AI to stop aromatization as Tren does not aromatize. you need a SERM to block estrogen at the receptor sites in the breast tissue (get Nolvadex) , you could also use some MASTeron to blunt both prolactin and estrogen receptors in breast tissue as well (Mast means "breast", it was designed for this).

get Nolva and Masteron and you can continue your cycle.

no Nolva is not going to cause more prolactin effects. its going to prevent estrogen from binding to breast tissue,, this is what you need.
the whole idea of not running Nolva with 19 nors is ridiculous and debunked by decades of anecdotal evidence


note: the caber may not do a thing for you at this point.. as again your gyno is likely estrogen related . but nothing wrong with having it on hand or giving it a try

[GearHeaded]

edit - just noticed you basically have a duplicate thread as this one in which I already responded and explained a lot of this

[Ashop]

Bloodwork is the best choice

Its a crap shoot at best without bloodwork. All your doing is guessing. Find the cause and then treat it appropriately.