Third Cycle - New Compounds

[Octaneforce]

Whats the goal for this cycle? Age? Height? I see u weigh 176lbs so if you are on the taller side id say run a bulk and pack on some mass you lost during your illness. Run nolva at 10mg/day during the cycle to prevent gyno. Dont bother with the aromasin until you feel estrogen sides (emotional, bloated, swollen ankles, basically pregnant). Estrogen is good for bulking unless you are very gyno prone/estrogen sensitive. In which case you shouldnt be messing with dbol anyway, but i dont think thats the case here if you ran 750mg of test sucessfully.

Using an oral for the full cycle is alot of demand on your liver. Just pick 1 oral and run it for 6 weeks, or just use dbol and taper it over 8 weeks. I cant remember what dosages i ran of dbol last. It was alot i think, like 80mg at one point.

[SeñorSalvatrucho]

Thanks for the reply.
Goals are pretty much to feel awesome while hittin the weights and definitely bulk up. I’m 31years old 5ft11inches. I’m not looking to turn into a water balloon but my diet is pretty awesome so hopefully that’ll help with the water retention also.
Ok so I’ll run the Nolva to start like you suggested and get bloods done at like week 6-8. I keep reading about running Dbol 4 weeks max and to stay below 50mg/day but of coarse some people are more tolerant. I was thinking the anavar would harden me up a bit at the end. Maybe I’ll leave the Dbol for another cycle and just run anavar at the end??

[Octaneforce]

Thanks for the reply.
Goals are pretty much to feel awesome while hittin the weights and definitely bulk up. I’m 31years old 5ft11inches. I’m not looking to turn into a water balloon but my diet is pretty awesome so hopefully that’ll help with the water retention also.
Ok so I’ll run the Nolva to start like you suggested and get bloods done at like week 6-8. I keep reading about running Dbol 4 weeks max and to stay below 50mg/day but of coarse some people are more tolerant. I was thinking the anavar would harden me up a bit at the end. Maybe I’ll leave the Dbol for another cycle and just run anavar at the end??

Your logic is good its just alot of stress on the liver to do 12 weeks straight of orals. Dbol is really one of those COMMIT TO THE BULK drugs. It works amazing, but it can make you lose alot of striations. However the mental affects of dbol are awesome. It was used as an anti depressant back in the day.

If you want to stay dry and still add some
Keepable mass, go with the var. the npp will be “wet” enough to keep you full. You can either jump start the cycle with the var, or do as you said and use it to tighten up at the end. I would do the jump start method. Var adds tons of strength and crazy pumps which is great while your waiting for the injectables to hit. Diet will really determine how hard you are at the end of the cycle. You can run var pretty long. I dont personally advise it, but plenty of guys will run it for 10+ weeks.

[SeñorSalvatrucho]

Your logic is good its just alot of stress on the liver to do 12 weeks straight of orals. Dbol is really one of those COMMIT TO THE BULK drugs. It works amazing, but it can make you lose alot of striations. However the mental affects of dbol are awesome. It was used as an anti depressant back in the day.

If you want to stay dry and still add some
Keepable mass, go with the var. the npp will be “wet” enough to keep you full. You can either jump start the cycle with the var, or do as you said and use it to tighten up at the end. I would do the jump start method. Var adds tons of strength and crazy pumps which is great while your waiting for the injectables to hit. Diet will really determine how hard you are at the end of the cycle. You can run var pretty long. I dont personally advise it, but plenty of guys will run it for 10+ weeks.

Man thanks for the info. Hmmm I’m so torn now. I might just commit to the bulk and run the dbol. What if I stretch out the cycle to like 14 weeks? Only run dbol first 4 weeks and not start the Var till week 10?
If not then I might just run the Var from the start like you suggested.

[Octaneforce]

Man thanks for the info. Hmmm I’m so torn now. I might just commit to the bulk and run the dbol. What if I stretch out the cycle to like 14 weeks? Only run dbol first 4 weeks and not start the Var till week 10?
If not then I might just run the Var from the start like you suggested.

The Problem with the classic 4 week dbol kickstart is that its not long enough to acclimate to the gains. You end up putting on tons of water weight and then just peeing it out when you stop. Lets say you want to do 60mg of dbol. Structure it like this:

Week 1 30mg
Week 2 40mg
Week 3 60mg
Week 4 60mg
Week 5 40mg
Week 6 30mg
Week 7 20mg
Week 8 20mg

This is a better way to hang onto dbol gains and the lower dosages at the end usually wont be enough to cause any sort of liver damage despite the 8 week term. This is gearhead’s protocol for dbol so i take zero credit and im just telling you what he told me. It works, i did it. My dosages were different but the concept remains.

Or run the var. either way bud, you really cant go wrong. Anavar is probably the most amazing oral steroid ever produced due to its use by athletes AND doctors prescribing it. You wont have to taper the var dose.

[SeñorSalvatrucho]

The Problem with the classic 4 week dbol kickstart is that its not long enough to acclimate to the gains. You end up putting on tons of water weight and then just peeing it out when you stop. Lets say you want to do 60mg of dbol. Structure it like this:

Week 1 30mg
Week 2 40mg
Week 3 60mg
Week 4 60mg
Week 5 40mg
Week 6 30mg
Week 7 20mg
Week 8 20mg

This is a better way to hang onto dbol gains and the lower dosages at the end usually wont be enough to cause any sort of liver damage despite the 8 week term. This is gearhead’s protocol for dbol so i take zero credit and im just telling you what he told me. It works, i did it. My dosages were different but the concept remains.

Or run the var. either way bud, you really cant go wrong. Anavar is probably the most amazing oral steroid ever produced due to its use by athletes AND doctors prescribing it. You wont have to taper the var dose.

Wow, great stuff. Thanks so much dude. I trust Gearhead’s recommendations so that’s cool. I got some thinking to do. Thanks again for advice.
I’m thinking about logging this cycle. Hopefully
You guys are interested.