Thinking to add var into end of cycle

[Littlearnie]

I’m doing 14-16 week of test e and bolbenon at 300pw. Also taking hcg at 500ius a week. All split into two pins.

I’m been reading up on anavar and it sounds like a good addition!
I’m thinking to add it in for the last 6-8 weeks.

Any advice on dosages, if you think it’s good or not to add in and if there are better brands to look out for?

Thanks.

[ShootingAcez]

I’m doing 14-16 week of test e and bolbenon at 300pw. Also taking hcg at 500ius a week. All split into two pins.

I’m been reading up on anavar and it sounds like a good addition!
I’m thinking to add it in for the last 6-8 weeks.

Any advice on dosages, if you think it’s good or not to add in and if there are better brands to look out for?

Thanks.

What are your goals? are you trying to add mass? If so, it's not a very good mass builder, however, it does lower SHBG, allowing for a higher amount of Free Test. It does have a lot of benefits. I'll be adding Anavar along with a little bit of Dbol at the beginning of my next cycle for a boost in Free testosterone to help out the other compounds.

Dosages wise, 40-50mg/day for 6-8 weeks is a good amount. However some people go upwards of 80mg/day.

Personally, I'll be doing 40mg/day I think.

[Littlearnie]

What are your goals? are you trying to add mass? If so, it's not a very good mass builder, however, it does lower SHBG, allowing for a higher amount of Free Test. It does have a lot of benefits. I'll be adding Anavar along with a little bit of Dbol at the beginning of my next cycle for a boost in Free testosterone to help out the other compounds.

Dosages wise, 40-50mg/day for 6-8 weeks is a good amount. However some people go upwards of 80mg/day.

Personally, I'll be doing 40mg/day I think.

Goals are honestly just to look as good as possible lol. I do weigh my self and track my workouts but I do it just because really. The mirror is the only thing that really concerns me!

I have been trying to put on some size, I’ve been eating good training good and as a result my bf is going down at the same time as I’m growing. and abs starting to show, slightly!
Thinking the addition of the var will give me a more defined/solid/cut look for the summer.

I like the idea of var to go With the test and eq as it goes with my idea of slow, steady, keepable gainz!

[Windex]

Save it for another cycle. You already are using two compounds on the first cycle and had a bit of a hiccup in terms of planning duration. No need to add another variable when you have other cycles coming up in the future.

[Littlearnie]

Also I don’t take an ai or serm cause of the low dose and eq not aromatising much. What I read is the var doesn’t aromatise either so I shouldn’t have to add anything extra in other than the var.

[Littlearnie]

Save it for another cycle. You already are using two compounds on the first cycle and had a bit of a hiccup in terms of planning duration. No need to add another variable when you have other cycles coming up in the future.

I thought this too, but my next cycle seeems so far away.
I thought I’d do 1 cycle just to see how it is and that’s it. But halfway through and I’m planning my next year out. Lol! It’s true that once you start there’s no going back!

[Windex]

Also I don’t take an ai or serm cause of the low dose and eq not aromatising much. What I read is the var doesn’t aromatise either so I shouldn’t have to add anything extra in other than the var.

600mg of gear is already a very good cycle that will give great results. Adding more drugs on a first cycle really doesn't achieve anything more or faster. The diet and training is still the hardstop to determining success. If you feel you need 3 drugs on the first cycle, what is cycle #2 going to be? 5 drugs? crazy high dosages?

[ShootingAcez]

Goals are honestly just to look as good as possible lol. I do weigh my self and track my workouts but I do it just because really. The mirror is the only thing that really concerns me!

I have been trying to put on some size, I’ve been eating good training good and as a result my bf is going down at the same time as I’m growing. and abs starting to show, slightly!
Thinking the addition of the var will give me a more defined/solid/cut look for the summer.

I like the idea of var to go With the test and eq as it goes with my idea of slow, steady, keepable gainz!

Like I said, Var does have some great components to it, but if this is your first cycle like Windex mentioned, then I'd keep it for another cycle. Stick with what you're on right now, and if all works out well, next cycle you can think about throwing in Var or another oral.

[GearHeaded]

aren't you on self prescribed TRT ?

nothing wrong with running back, to back, to back cycles. . when you say you want to add in Var to "this" specific cycle which is lasting you 16 weeks.. why not think of it like 'heck by time I'm 16 weeks in I'm actually on cycle number 3' . theres no RULES in this AAS game where you have to do one set cycle for say 16 weeks and thats it , its set in stone, thats your one cycle.. nope, along those 16 weeks you can experiment and end up doing 2-3 seprate cycles that happened to of lasted 16 weeks.

so your first cycle really was Test (because you were on TRT and then you upped the dosage)
your second cycle really was test and eq (cause you added the eq in)
and now your third cycle can easily be Var

they just happen to of all happened back to back. again you don't have to do one cycle and commit to it for 16 weeks. you can do multiple cycles in that time frame . heck for me over a 16 week period I've probably done a good 4 or so cycles and a dozen or so different drugs (I'm an advocate of the phase cycling approach and compound rotation)

[Littlearnie]

600mg of gear is already a very good cycle that will give great results. Adding more drugs on a first cycle really doesn't achieve anything more or faster. The diet and training is still the hardstop to determining success. If you feel you need 3 drugs on the first cycle, what is cycle #2 going to be? 5 drugs? crazy high dosages?

Atm a rough plan in my head was double yes lol. 2 ml each a week instead of 1.
Then I started reading about other steroids. And I started reading up on anavar. And I thought I could just add this in now lol.
But as my second cycle can’t start until pct+time on = time off. It’s along way away..

Also just so you know. i call this my first cycle because it’s my first injectsble cycle.
When I was younger I did a couple oral only cycles. I was young and dumb and already had plenary of stick for it. Plus scared myself into doing everything properly this time!
As far as I remember my very first was an anavar only cycle. Second I believe was dbol/tool for lots of weeks with no pct. again yes I know I was stupid and most probley lucky!
Someone here told me to count this as my first cycle.
Just some history!

aren't you on self prescribed TRT ?

nothing wrong with running back, to back, to back cycles. . when you say you want to add in Var to "this" specific cycle which is lasting you 16 weeks.. why not think of it like 'heck by time I'm 16 weeks in I'm actually on cycle number 3' . theres no RULES in this AAS game where you have to do one set cycle for say 16 weeks and thats it , its set in stone, thats your one cycle.. nope, along those 16 weeks you can experiment and end up doing 2-3 seprate cycles that happened to of lasted 16 weeks.

so your first cycle really was Test (because you were on TRT and then you upped the dosage)
your second cycle really was test and eq (cause you added the eq in)
and now your third cycle can easily be Var

they just happen to of all happened back to back. again you don't have to do one cycle and commit to it for 16 weeks. you can do multiple cycles in that time frame . heck for me over a 16 week period I've probably done a good 4 or so cycles and a dozen or so different drugs (I'm an advocate of the phase cycling approach and compound rotation)

I’m not sure If you saying I’m on trt jokingly because I’m only taking test e at 300. But no I’m not on trt (hopefully never have to be!).

I take 1 ml test e and 1 ml boldenon each week (pharmacom 300). And 500 ius hcg. All split into the 2 pins on a Monday and Thursday.

It was originally planned as a 10 week cycle but as I only got 8 weeks worth in my vials I had to buy another vial of each. So I’m assuming I get another 8 weeks worth so I thought it might as well be a 16 week cycle.

I thought I’d add the var in now as it seems to fit with the test / eq cycle very well, at least in my uneducated mind it does.

I have another 6/7 weeks weeks left if I go till it’s finished plus the two weeks I wait for pct.
My head at start was slow steady gains I have the rest of my lift to grow. Dont wanna be a yo-yo.

But the var could help me with my current (I want more and I want it now) mentality lol.

Just wanna clear up that I took my first test shot along with my first eq shot. There was no delay.

I got some thinking to do!

[Couchlockd]

Atm a rough plan in my head was double yes lol. 2 ml each a week instead of 1.
Then I started reading about other steroids. And I started reading up on anavar. And I thought I could just add this in now lol.
But as my second cycle can’t start until pct+time on = time off. It’s along way away..

Also just so you know. i call this my first cycle because it’s my first injectsble cycle.
When I was younger I did a couple oral only cycles. I was young and dumb and already had plenary of stick for it. Plus scared myself into doing everything properly this time!
As far as I remember my very first was an anavar only cycle. Second I believe was dbol/tool for lots of weeks with no pct. again yes I know I was stupid and most probley lucky!
Someone here told me to count this as my first cycle.
Just some history!



I’m not sure If you saying I’m on trt jokingly because I’m only taking test e at 300. But no I’m not on trt (hopefully never have to be!).

I take 1 ml test e and 1 ml boldenon each week (pharmacom 300). And 500 ius hcg. All split into the 2 pins on a Monday and Thursday.

It was originally planned as a 10 week cycle but as I only got 8 weeks worth in my vials I had to buy another vial of each. So I’m assuming I get another 8 weeks worth so I thought it might as well be a 16 week cycle.

I thought I’d add the var in now as it seems to fit with the test / eq cycle very well, at least in my uneducated mind it does.

I have another 6/7 weeks weeks left if I go till it’s finished plus the two weeks I wait for pct.
My head at start was slow steady gains I have the rest of my lift to grow. Dont wanna be a yo-yo.

But the var could help me with my current (I want more and I want it now) mentality lol.

Just wanna clear up that I took my first test shot along with my first eq shot. There was no delay.

I got some thinking to do!

I like var. One of my favorites. Very underrated and misunderstood drugs.

For me it does wonders on strength.

It's expensive, and it needs ran correctly so you just aren't wasting money

[GearHeaded]

I’m not sure If you saying I’m on trt jokingly because I’m only taking test e at 300. But no I’m not on trt (hopefully never have to be!).

no wasn't a joke.. I must of confused you with someone else who was on TRT who is also doing a low dose test/eq cycle for their first cycle

[Littlearnie]

The more I read the more I want to add it in!

A couple things though. First I read most of it is faked. I read that the only reason people take more the 10mg ed is because it’s all fake and watered down. Some places even state it could be another drug such as winni, dbolor tbol just labels as var. Or even a mix or steroids. Basically the internet makes it sound very hard to get..
How do I know which to get if I do buy. What are some good brands?

What’s better, to It run it side by side and finish tabs when you finish your last injection. Or is it better to run it up untill the day before pct?

Why?


Also I read that it doesn’t aromatise so they’ll be no need to think about adding ai/serm. So it seems to fit perfect with my cycle, no?

[ShootingAcez]

no wasn't a joke.. I must of confused you with someone else who was on TRT who is also doing a low dose test/eq cycle for their first cycle

I think you're thinking of Fiddlesticks. He was doing a Test/EQ cycle. lol

[Windex]

no wasn't a joke.. I must of confused you with someone else who was on TRT who is also doing a low dose test/eq cycle for their first cycle

You are thinking of Test Monsterone IIRC

[Windex]

The more I read the more I want to add it in!

A couple things though. First I read most of it is faked. I read that the only reason people take more the 10mg ed is because it’s all fake and watered down. Some places even state it could be another drug such as winni, dbolor tbol just labels as var. Or even a mix or steroids. Basically the internet makes it sound very hard to get..
How do I know which to get if I do buy. What are some good brands?

What’s better, to It run it side by side and finish tabs when you finish your last injection. Or is it better to run it up untill the day before pct?

Why?


Also I read that it doesn’t aromatise so they’ll be no need to think about adding ai/serm. So it seems to fit perfect with my cycle, no?

You are correct in that adding Anavar would not effect AI/SERM.
10mg every day is a female dose or therapeutic dose.

Spend time on some independent research. You can look at the review subsection of the forum as well as googling "Lab X reviews". As couch said, very easy to waste money if you buy fake/underdosed as well as run incorrectly which requires more research + comprehension on your end. One of the reasons it's not recommended for someone new is they just don't have experience using gear, spotting fakes, or sourcing correctly.

Just looking at your post it would be very easy for someone to PM you and scam you;
- you are already on cycle so have a small time frame to source gear
- you are on a first cycle so don't have a lot of experience (this is not negative, everyone starts somewhere)
- you don't know which brands are reputable or how to spot fakes

Just use your morning poop as time to read up on Anavar +labs during your PCT. By the end of it you will be an expert and can add it on next time.

[GearHeaded]

The more I read the more I want to add it in!

A couple things though. First I read most of it is faked. I read that the only reason people take more the 10mg ed is because it’s all fake and watered down. Some places even state it could be another drug such as winni

for guys without really good sources and who worry wither their VAR may be faked as Winny.. I tell them to go ahead and just get Winny then. heck its a quarter of the price of Var and is just as effective with a lot of the same characteristics and attributes, and both are over 3x as anabolic as test.

[Littlearnie]

for guys without really good sources and who worry wither their VAR may be faked as Winny.. I tell them to go ahead and just get Winny then. heck its a quarter of the price of Var and is just as effective with a lot of the same characteristics and attributes, and both are over 3x as anabolic as test.

Ok this isn’t a problem for me then. I’m just regurgitating what I’ve been reading.

You are correct in that adding Anavar would not effect AI/SERM.
10mg every day is a female dose or therapeutic dose.

Spend time on some independent research. You can look at the review subsection of the forum as well as googling "Lab X reviews". As couch said, very easy to waste money if you buy fake/underdosed as well as run incorrectly which requires more research + comprehension on your end. One of the reasons it's not recommended for someone new is they just don't have experience using gear, spotting fakes, or sourcing correctly.

Just looking at your post it would be very easy for someone to PM you and scam you;
- you are already on cycle so have a small time frame to source gear
- you are on a first cycle so don't have a lot of experience (this is not negative, everyone starts somewhere)
- you don't know which brands are reputable or how to spot fakes

Just use your morning poop as time to read up on Anavar +labs during your PCT. By the end of it you will be an expert and can add it on next time.

I’ve read up quite a bit to be fair. It seems that anavar back in the day was 2.5 mg tabs. And men would run up to 10mg. The guy in the video explains it quite well. He says the last company to do pure anavar tabs in us charged 800 dollars a bottle. He said it’s one of the most expensive drugs And if you were really taking 50-100 mg of anavar you’d have all the serious sides and it would cost thousand for a cycle.
That’s all I mean by watered down in today’s world.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QE7H1VLjaW8

For me to to get gear is like going to the shop and asking for a protein shake lol. I’m very lucky. Not only do I have a choice I can confident it’s all legit!

I do apreiciate you taking the time to help me.,

“You can advise the best you can, but will they listen”...

Sooo today bought myself some oxandrolone
Went with pharmacom cause everything I’ve been using is pharma atm.
Got 200 10mg tabs. Thinking a good start is 40mg for last 6 weeks.

So I want to split up into 2 20mg doses. Spit every 12hrs?
Im thinking with breakfast then 12 hours later?

I’ve bought nac too, is this enough? I see on another post someone said to take 1800-2400mg nac a day and that will be enough on its own?
The tabs I have are 600 but I thought it was 1 or 2 a day max! What you think?

Also is it better to run with parallel with the test/eq pins. So I would end the anavar the week I end the test/eq pins.
Or is it better to run 2 weeks after the last pin into pct?

[Windex]

So at the end of your cycle how are you going to know whether you got results from Test, EQ or Var ? I just don't understand the blind stubborn mindset with zero experience.
o

[Couchlockd]

Ok this isn’t a problem for me then. I’m just regurgitating what I’ve been reading.




I’ve read up quite a bit to be fair. It seems that anavar back in the day was 2.5 mg tabs. And men would run up to 10mg. The guy in the video explains it quite well. He says the last company to do pure anavar tabs in us charged 800 dollars a bottle. He said it’s one of the most expensive drugs And if you were really taking 50-100 mg of anavar you’d have all the serious sides and it would cost thousand for a cycle.
That’s all I mean by watered down in today’s world.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QE7H1VLjaW8

For me to to get gear is like going to the shop and asking for a protein shake lol. I’m very lucky. Not only do I have a choice I can confident it’s all legit!

I do apreiciate you taking the time to help me.,

“You can advise the best you can, but will they listen”...

Sooo today bought myself some oxandrolone
Went with pharmacom cause everything I’ve been using is pharma atm.
Got 200 10mg tabs. Thinking a good start is 40mg for last 6 weeks.

So I want to split up into 2 20mg doses. Spit every 12hrs?
Im thinking with breakfast then 12 hours later?

I’ve bought nac too, is this enough? I see on another post someone said to take 1800-2400mg nac a day and that will be enough on its own?
The tabs I have are 600 but I thought it was 1 or 2 a day max! What you think?

Also is it better to run with parallel with the test/eq pins. So I would end the anavar the week I end the test/eq pins.
Or is it better to run 2 weeks after the last pin into pct?

2.5 mg var is a medical dose.

Performance dose is 20-30

Muscle and strength building is 40-60

[GearHeaded]

I’ve read up quite a bit to be fair. It seems that anavar back in the day was 2.5 mg tabs. And men would run up to 10mg. The guy in the video explains it quite well. He says the last company to do pure anavar tabs in us charged 800 dollars a bottle. He said it’s one of the most expensive drugs And if you were really taking 50-100 mg of anavar you’d have all the serious sides and it would cost thousand for a cycle.
That’s all I mean by watered down in today’s world.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QE7H1VLjaW8

this is a 6 year old video by a guy that was in the steroid scene 2 decades ago. a lot has changes since then, he's completely out of touch and out of the loop now (he self admittedly does't even help clients with AAS protocols).

10mg of VAR is the dosage that is prescribed by doctors to treat people with alcoholic liver disease.. the 2.5mg pills were developed for children and old women, but 10mg pills were available for medical uses as well (still are).

[Littlearnie]

So at the end of your cycle how are you going to know whether you got results from Test, EQ or Var ? I just don't understand the blind stubborn mindset with zero experience.
o

My orginal plan was 10 week of test/eq. I’m on my 12th week. So my body now is the max result of ten weeks. This is what I would look like on a ten week test/eq cycle!
I would drop the eq and run the var and have test as just the base. But I have lots left now so I may as well just run all for 14-16 weeks.
I won’t get another cycle in before summer so this extension I feel has worked out ok.
The var will make me my best self hopefully. Get some definition before summer hitS!

[Littlearnie]

2.5 mg var is a medical dose.

Performance dose is 20-30

Muscle and strength building is 40-60

this is a 6 year old video by a guy that was in the steroid scene 2 decades ago. a lot has changes since then, he's completely out of touch and out of the loop now (he self admittedly does't even help clients with AAS protocols).

10mg of VAR is the dosage that is prescribed by doctors to treat people with alcoholic liver disease.. the 2.5mg pills were developed for children and old women, but 10mg pills were available for medical uses as well (still are).

Ok cool good to know. I want to point out that I wasn’t thinking to run 10mg I’m just repeated what I’ve read. And it’s wrong...

So what do you guys think about my follow up questions

Sooo today bought myself some oxandrolone
Went with pharmacom cause everything I’ve been using is pharma atm.
Got 200 10mg tabs. Thinking a good start is 40mg for last 6 weeks.

So I want to split up into 2 20mg doses. Spit every 12hrs?
Im thinking with breakfast then 12 hours later?

I’ve bought nac too, is this enough? I see on another post someone said to take 1800-2400mg nac a day and that will be enough on its own?
The tabs I have are 600 but I thought it was 1 or 2 a day max! What you think?

Also is it better to run with parallel with the test/eq pins. So I would end the anavar the week I end the test/eq pins.
Or is it better to run 2 weeks after the last pin into pct?

[GearHeaded]

I'll just say I see nothing wrong with going ahead and maximizing your cycle by running VAR at the end.. if it was me or a client of mine I'd do the same thing more then likely. your already shut down, you might as well squeeze out all the gains you can from this.

as for liver support . Var is not that liver toxic. in fact, as I stated above, its actually prescribed to help treat liver disease (because its regenerative abilities outweigh its toxicity at low dosage). however its not a bad idea to run some liver sups at a 40mg dose of VAR per day.

NAC is recommended. I run at least 1800mg.. if you got the funds, then throw some TUDCA in there too , but not required by any means.

as for running VAR with your test/eq pins. thats irrelevant really.. I would run the VAR up until you begin your PCT protocols. so when you drop your test and your EQ, go ahead and keep running the VAR and keep getting the gains while you wait to start PCT .. thats a big benefit of the orals. it will be out of your system the day after you stop taking it. so take until pct starts

[Couchlockd]

I've seen about 6 independent lab tests if the 10mg var tabs I use.

Always 9-9.7 mg per tab.

Hardly watered down

[GearHeaded]

I've seen about 6 independent lab tests if the 10mg var tabs I use.

Always 9-9.7 mg per tab.

Hardly watered down

yeah the idea that most var out there is fake var is 'old news' from a decade ago . plenty of legit Var out there now days guys. its called "market demand" .

[Littlearnie]

Ok wicked, thanks for all your help and advice.
I’m going to finish this week (week 12) then Start the var and go 6 weeks till pct starts.

My cycle is now shaping up to look like this

Week 1 - 16 Test E 300 pw
Week 1 - 16 EQ 300 pw
Week 4 - 16 HCG 500iu pw <or do I run hcg to pct?
Week 12 - 18 Var 40mg ed

Week 18 - 22 nolva 40/20/20/20
Week 18 - 22 chlomid 75/50/50/50

[Littlearnie]

Ok so started the var today. 6 weeks will last to the day before I start pct.

Couple questions!
Is there a real need to split the dosage up. I read a lot people say they take altogether and just as many say to split.
I can do 20/20 but I’d rather just take em all when I leave and go gym. Easier to remember plus won’t have to carry me about..?

Empty stomach or with food. Which is best?

[Couchlockd]

Ok so started the var today. 6 weeks will last to the day before I start pct.

Couple questions!
Is there a real need to split the dosage up. I read a lot people say they take altogether and just as many say to split.
I can do 20/20 but I’d rather just take em all when I leave and go gym. Easier to remember plus won’t have to carry me about..?

Empty stomach or with food. Which is best?

I've been eating my 50mg var at once 45 min before gym.

Only thing to watch for is don't take them closer than an hour after NAC or TUDCA and don't take NAC or TUDCA closer than an hour after

[Littlearnie]

I've been eating my 50mg var at once 45 min before gym.

Only thing to watch for is don't take them closer than an hour after NAC or TUDCA and don't take NAC or TUDCA closer than an hour after

Ah shit lol! How comes?
Yesterday I was necking the var and nac together. I’ll make sure not to. Thanks

[Littlearnie]

Yeah so I thought I’d try the split dose see how it goes. Day 2 I left the house without my second dose!
So I’ll just have to take em when I get home before bed.

From tommorow I think I’ll just do the 40mg pre workout like couch. And I’ll try take em the same time on days off.

Can someone explain half-life to me.
If I take 40mg 5pm today, by the time I take another does 24 hours later there be between 5-10 left in my system. Then I top up 40 and repeat for 6 weeks. So basically going up 5-10mg everyday?

Am I right In Thinking that that you split orals just for some consistent blood levels? And the dose in system remains the same.
Like I’m not gonna have more floating around inside of me by splitting the dose?

Steroidal says it 9 hrs half life?

[Littlearnie]

I’m gonna go back to trying to split 20/20.

I don’t know if it’s in my head but last two sessions I had 40 in 1 go before gym I’ve been out of breath between sets.
I’m not sure if it’s the var or cause I’m going in but it seems out of place for me to be out of breath as much as I am..

[Couchlockd]

Yeah so I thought I’d try the split dose see how it goes. Day 2 I left the house without my second dose!
So I’ll just have to take em when I get home before bed.

From tommorow I think I’ll just do the 40mg pre workout like couch. And I’ll try take em the same time on days off.

Can someone explain half-life to me.
If I take 40mg 5pm today, by the time I take another does 24 hours later there be between 5-10 left in my system. Then I top up 40 and repeat for 6 weeks. So basically going up 5-10mg everyday?

Am I right In Thinking that that you split orals just for some consistent blood levels? And the dose in system remains the same.
Like I’m not gonna have more floating around inside of me by splitting the dose?

Steroidal says it 9 hrs half life?

Half life the dose halves every 9 hours

So 40mg at 12 pm, by 9pm you have 20mg circulating, then by 6 am 10mg, 3pm 5mg, then 12am 2.5