Fertility question

[yeahbuddy289]

Are there good sources out there for HMG? I’ve never seen it anywhere... And would it be beneficial for me to start running that as well? Also, if I do run a blast, would a short ester compound be better? Like tren ace? Or just avoid that all together?

Also, I would love to have my own blood work done but it is not legal in my state.

[Youthful55guy]

Are there good sources out there for HMG? I’ve never seen it anywhere... And would it be beneficial for me to start running that as well? Also, if I do run a blast, would a short ester compound be better? Like tren ace? Or just avoid that all together?

Also, I would love to have my own blood work done but it is not legal in my state.

Personally, I'd give up the synthetic steroids until you're out of the baby business and focus on maintaining what you got. But again, that's a personal decision. It's not just the half life of the hormones, but it's putting your entire hormonal system out of balance and that can take quite a while to restore.

I would not mess with HMG. I have seen it available through some overseas steroid distributers but it is very expensive, $52 for 150 IU at one site I know of and you need a LOT OF IT. HMG is basically highly filtered FSH and LH obtained from post-menopausal women. LH has a half life of about 20 minutes and FSH has a half life of 3-4 hours. HCG has a half life of about 24-36 hours. I think you are much better off with using Clomid to produce the LH/FSH naturally and then throwing in HCG for an added effect.

I've seen a couple of published fertility protocols for men with secondary hypogonadism using a combination of HCG and HMG. The protocols usually call for high doses of HCG (1000 to 2000 IUs 2-3 times per week) in combination with 75 to 150 IU of HMG 3 times per week. But the catch is that it takes about 3 months to produce and fully mature sperm cells. It takes that long for them to make their way from the Sertoli Cells (where they are produced by miosis), through the winding tubular stricture of the testicles and epidermis and out the urethra in your ejaculate. So what you do today won't show up in your ejaculate for 3 months. One protocol I saw calls for maintaining the HCG/HMG protocol for a minimum of 4 months. Most men in these clinical trials begin to produce viable sperm within about 6 months. I believe the median was 9 months of treatment to reach the goal of conception.

Start multiplying those numbers out, and they are staggering. You have to be really dedicated to do this without some sort of insurance coverage. Lets see. $52 X 3 times per week X 4 weeks per month X 6 to 9 months, that's $3,744 to $5,616. And that's just for the HMG.

You still have to purchase the HCG and that ain't cheep either. I get it from my pharmacy for $130/10,000 IU. Let's say you use a mid-range dose of 1500 IU X 3 times per week X 4 weeks/month X 6 to 9 months, that's $1,404 to $2,106.

So the grand total for the HCG/HMG protocol is about $5,148 to $7,722. Granted, it's only about 1 quarter of their future college tuition (start saving now), but you get the picture. You are much better off using Clomid to produce the hormones naturally and much less expensively. Then invest that $5000 to $7000 in savings bonds for future college expenses.

[Youthful55guy]

Also, I would love to have my own blood work done but it is not legal in my state.

After thought. Are you certain about this? Most states (such as my own, CA) do not allow you to order directly from the test labs. However, the link I provided above is to a site where a doctor (in Florida) writes the lab orders that you purchase from their menu of tests. The doctor send the prepaid order to LabCorp and then you simply bring your requisition form that they send you and they draw the blood. The results go back to the doctor who then forwards them to you. More recently, LabCorp posts the results on their patient portal the day after the doctor has been sent the results, so you also have an on-line electronic repository of tests you can always go back to.