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    At what point when bulking, is to much BF%? Where do you draw the line and say ok, need to add mass, but max is 12% BF when doing it, etc..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle1337 View Post
    At what point when bulking, is to much BF%? Where do you draw the line and say ok, need to add mass, but max is 12% BF when doing it, etc..
    I tell guys to just go by the mirror . going from a soft six pack to a 4 pack is fine. but when your seratus and your top two abs become blurry then your gaining too much fat and you need to scale things back .

    also, monitoring blood glucose. if your lean fasted blood sugars generally run say 77 , and you've been bulking for months and now your fasted blood sugar is say 105 , then its time to scale back (theres generally a good correlation between body fat level increases along side blood sugar and insulin in-sensitivity increases).. <--- thats independent of drugs like MK677 or HGH that will skew those numbers

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