Low BP after exercise

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Gear, according to the following articles, EPO is not as great as people think it is. In fact, they are saying it’s good in shorter sprints, but worse for longer competitions.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...zaLl-_g0DzpxdY


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3690100/


https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN19L1EE


For me, because my first cycle was test only at 850 mg/week, and my second cycle was 150 mg test + 750 EQ, I was able to compare how both made me feel. I didn’t get as lethargic from the test only cycle, but it did make my blood pressure increase much more and I would look redder in the face and chest. Whatever the mechanism behind EQ, it caused me lethargy in the end, while test didn’t.

a lot of my phase cycling protocols contain what I label a "volumization" phase. they often times include things like Eq and Anadrol . because I find these drugs (eq has to be high enough dosage) volumize cells extremely well. you retain nutrients, minerals, water, etc.. in cells extremely well. you become more vascular because your retaining a lot more nutrients and water in the blood stream . not because your rbc or hematocrit is elevated

this volumization effect though can lead to lethargy over time because your body is working harder retaining so much . yes hematocrit is likely going up a bit as well , but the lethargy is not from the high hematocrit itself (though its easy to confuse whats going on and think this is the cause)..

if you were to get your hematocrit to say 51 , from 47 , without using AAS (which have retentive properties that cause the lethargy) and just doing things like living at high altitude and sleeping in a barometric chamber , your cardio capacity would likely increase, not decrease .
its the secondary effects from the AAS that are causing the lethargy and decline in cardio capacity

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a lot of my phase cycling protocols contain what I label a "volumization" phase. they often times include things like Eq and Anadrol . because I find these drugs (eq has to be high enough dosage) volumize cells extremely well. you retain nutrients, minerals, water, etc.. in cells extremely well. you become more vascular because your retaining a lot more nutrients and water in the blood stream . not because your rbc or hematocrit is elevated

this volumization effect though can lead to lethargy over time because your body is working harder retaining so much . yes hematocrit is likely going up a bit as well , but the lethargy is not from the high hematocrit itself (though its easy to confuse whats going on and think this is the cause)..

if you were to get your hematocrit to say 51 , from 47 , without using AAS (which have retentive properties that cause the lethargy) and just doing things like living at high altitude and sleeping in a barometric chamber , your cardio capacity would likely increase, not decrease .
its the secondary effects from the AAS that are causing the lethargy and decline in cardio capacity

I see what you mean. I read a lot of books on different expeditions to the Himalayas on Everest and K2, and I remember reading about some people (especially older people) experiencing heart attacks and dying even at base camp. Now whether they didn’t acclimate quickly enough or whether the cell volumization, as you call it, caused this to happen, I don’t know. I know they said that for the indigenous Sherpa people who live at those altitudes, they have evolved over time to deal with the atmosphere, but for the rest of us, being at that altitude for too long can be taxing on the health.

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I see what you mean. I read a lot of books on different expeditions to the Himalayas on Everest and K2, and I remember reading about some people (especially older people) experiencing heart attacks and dying even at base camp. Now whether they didn’t acclimate quickly enough or whether the cell volumization, as you call it, caused this to happen, I don’t know. I know they said that for the indigenous Sherpa people who live at those altitudes, they have evolved over time to deal with the atmosphere, but for the rest of us, being at that altitude for too long can be taxing on the health.

the people who live at higher elevations have higher hematocrit levels naturally . they need to and they adapt.. people who live at low elevation and come up to higher elevation experience health problems not because their hematocrit suddenly elevates, its because its too low to begin with. high rbc/hematocrit is essential . its also a performance advantage. its not a negative side effect of AAS usage, its a positive one.


I live at 7,300 ft elevation (previously lived at 9300 feet for most my life). which is way above sea level. my hematocrit is naturally high.
its probably 80 degrees where you live . but where I live its currently 12 degrees, its a blizzard, the major highway has closed, and my kids school has been cancelled .. fun stuff . but hey I'm naturally acclimated to high hematocrit levels . I bet I could run a sub 6 minute mile at sea level !

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the people who live at higher elevations have higher hematocrit levels naturally . they need to and they adapt.. people who live at low elevation and come up to higher elevation experience health problems not because their hematocrit suddenly elevates, its because its too low to begin with. high rbc/hematocrit is essential . its also a performance advantage. its not a negative side effect of AAS usage, its a positive one.


I live at 7,300 ft elevation (previously lived at 9300 feet for most my life). which is way above sea level. my hematocrit is naturally high.
its probably 80 degrees where you live . but where I live its currently 12 degrees, its a blizzard, the major highway has closed, and my kids school has been cancelled .. fun stuff . but hey I'm naturally acclimated to high hematocrit levels . I bet I could run a sub 6 minute mile at sea level !

God damn brother that’s insane! It’s 72 right now in PA where I live. Yes, you would do great at sea level. This summer I went to the mountains for a quick vacation, right as I was ending my EQ cycle of 750 mg. I actually was breathing quite well at that altitude and wasn’t so lethargic anymore, proving your point.

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God damn brother that’s insane! It’s 72 right now in PA where I live. Yes, you would do great at sea level. This summer I went to the mountains for a quick vacation, right as I was ending my EQ cycle of 750 mg. I actually was breathing quite well at that altitude and wasn’t so lethargic anymore, proving your point.

this is what June looked like at my house a week after my kids were let out of school for summer break


yeah , summer vacation gets started with a snow shovel . now its barely even fall and its a damn blizzard

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this is what June looked like at my house a week after my kids were let out of school for summer break


yeah , summer vacation gets started with a snow shovel . now its barely even fall and its a damn blizzard

I was gonna ask you if you lived in the North Pole, but I dont want to get in your business LOL! I’m gonna guess you live somewhere like Alaska...

I lived in Toronto, Canada for almost 4 years as a kid and I remember getting some crazy snow storms there in the early 90’s, but especially driving up north a few hours to the cabins. Now Toronto is like here, they barely get any snow in the winter. Shit man, you need high test just to keep you warm, no joke..

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I was gonna ask you if you lived in the North Pole, but I dont want to get in your business LOL! I’m gonna guess you live somewhere like Alaska...

I lived in Toronto, Canada for almost 4 years as a kid and I remember getting some crazy snow storms there in the early 90’s, but especially driving up north a few hours to the cabins. Now Toronto is like here, they barely get any snow in the winter. Shit man, you need high test just to keep you warm, no joke..

rocky mountains .. I have the occasional bear that gets in my trash , deer that my dog likes to chase on a daily basis, elk, moose, and mountain lion that strole through my yard on occasion . however I only pack a 10mm Glock because I'm afraid of spiders.

before I moved where I'm at now, which is kinda more a upper class area and not really a strictly rural area (yes the bear get into the country clubs trash too), I lived a days hike away from the continental divide (14,000 ft elevation). that was rural as fk on the top of the rocky mountains..
I once had a 9 feet snowstorm that locked me in my house for weeks. no joke, the snow actually accumulated higher then the front doors and windows. you could not see outside. you could not open the front door. the snow was higher then the doorway.

I drove a dodge 2500 diesel at the time that was parked outside . from the upper bedroom window looking out you could not see it anywhere. its probably 7 feet tall at least and was totally buried . even trees disappeared