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    Quote Originally Posted by IronLiver View Post
    I decided to use this model for my first cycle, which I'm about 6 weeks into. Rather than the traditional test only cycle.

    Here is what I decided on trying :

    Weeks 1-4 Test Cyp 250mg (Phase 0) See how the body responds to Test. 300 Calorie surplus.

    Weeks 5-8 (Phase 1 Bulk - Estrogen phase) Retain more water, increase estrogen, blood volume and mass. 500 Calorie surplus.
    Test 350mg
    Dbol 30-50mgs/day
    Proviron 50-100mgs/day

    Weeks 9-12 (Phase 2 - Anabolic phase) Slowly build lean muscle mass, increase strength and indurance. Maintance Calories - 300 Calorie surplus.
    Test 500mg
    Anavar 30-50mgs/day

    Weeks 13-16 (Phase 3 Cut - Androgen phase) Cut some fat and try not to lose all the gains. Anti cortisol, anti estrogen, high androgen phase. 300-500 Calorie deficit.
    Test 500mg
    Winstrol 30-50mgs/day
    Proviron 50-100mgs/day

    6 weeks (Cruise and maintain) Maintance Calories
    Test C 100mg
    EQ 250mg
    Insulin 10-20iu per day

    *Nolvadex on hand
    *Adex on hand
    *Proviron on hand

    Currently, I'm living in south america and it's pretty much impossible to get things shipped here. I finally found a good gym in one of the big cities and bought all the gear from a company called Eminence Labs, which seems to be the most popular brand sold in Colombia, Ecuador and Peru. Wasn't able to find Masteron or Primo, so I was wondering how Proviron will work instead? They sell the Bayer Proviron here for around $6 over the counter... The Dbol and test are definitely working well but after about a week of dbol I got bloated as hell and lethargic, so I added 50mg Proviron and the bloat and lethargy wen't down.
    it would be really beneficial if you could get your hands on some Masteron, especially for your androgen phase . keep in mind your androgen phase is not very androgenic (only an androgen load rating of about 650 .. to put it in perspective I've got my androgen load up to 7,500 during an androgen phase) . you may want to consider running Masteron and some Tren in this phase. if you can't find Mast then stick with the proviron and add some Halotestin . and OR a last resort option for an androgen phase, run at least a gram of test and take an AI plus your proviron (these together will force more androgenic activity out of your test).

    the proviron is NOT anabolic . its simply lowering your SHBG which is then freeing up a lot more DHT . and DHT is androgenic (however its also not directly anabolic in muscle tissue .. but it can help with your mood, aggression, sex drive, and help load more glycogen into muscle giving you a fuller harder look)

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    it would be really beneficial if you could get your hands on some Masteron, especially for your androgen phase . keep in mind your androgen phase is not very androgenic (only an androgen load rating of about 650 .. to put it in perspective I've got my androgen load up to 7,500 during an androgen phase) . you may want to consider running Masteron and some Tren in this phase. if you can't find Mast then stick with the proviron and add some Halotestin . and OR a last resort option for an androgen phase, run at least a gram of test and take an AI plus your proviron (these together will force more androgenic activity out of your test).

    the proviron is NOT anabolic . its simply lowering your SHBG which is then freeing up a lot more DHT . and DHT is androgenic (however its also not directly anabolic in muscle tissue .. but it can help with your mood, aggression, sex drive, and help load more glycogen into muscle giving you a fuller harder look)
    Thanks! No luck finding Masteron yet. I'm at one of the biggest bodybuilding gyms in the country, so if they can't get Masteron I would have to try ordering it online, which didn't work out well last time. Also, the company doesn't seem to make Halotestin.

    I'm not sure running 1000mg of test is wise for a first cycle? I like the idea of running Arimidex with a higher dose of Proviron.

    To give an update, I'm at week 8 and doing 350mg test and 30mg dbol pre workout and put on about 22 lbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IronLiver View Post
    Thanks! No luck finding Masteron yet. I'm at one of the biggest bodybuilding gyms in the country, so if they can't get Masteron I would have to try ordering it online, which didn't work out well last time. Also, the company doesn't seem to make Halotestin.

    I'm not sure running 1000mg of test is wise for a first cycle? I like the idea of running Arimidex with a higher dose of Proviron.

    To give an update, I'm at week 8 and doing 350mg test and 30mg dbol pre workout and put on about 22 lbs.
    well by time you get to your androgen phase its not really going to be your "first cycle" , heck you'll be like 4 phases deep by then

    either way it sounds like your making awesome progress .

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    well by time you get to your androgen phase its not really going to be your "first cycle" , heck you'll be like 4 phases deep by then

    either way it sounds like your making awesome progress .
    Ridiculous progress. I've been doing the vertical diet with some raw butter and cheese added and I've made more gains in 8 weeks than the past 5 years... Next week I will begin the Anavar at 30mg and up the test to 500mg. Maybe 750mg of test for the androgen phase? If my body is responding well to low doses I don't see the need to increase the doses dramatically.

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