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Back Squat: 1x135/5x145/5x185/5x225/5x265/5x315/5x350/5x10x225
Dips: 6x15x25
Pullups: 5x10x25
Time: 42:25
All movements are definitely feeling more powerful, but the increased volume on supplementals is keeping me from really running down my previous times.
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What program would you recommend for pure strength? Not something that I’m looking at right now but probably at the end on 2020.
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I recently put a friend on Jim Wendler’s Coffinworm program, and he’s been exploding in strength. It’s in his book 5/3/1 Forever. I can snap some pictures of the pages for it and send them over.Originally Posted by tarmyg
It’s a pretty simple wave loading structure, but you need to already be familiar with his principles of training maxes, amrap sets, Joker sets, etc.
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Bench Press: 1x45/5x95/5x115/5x140/5x165/5x190/5x215/5x10x140
DB Squat: 6x15x100
DB SLDL: 5x10x100s
Time: 33:35
“Test deca and dbol with no AIs will make you a watery mess.”
Ask me if I care.
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Man you look awesome.
You came a long ways putting that on powerlifting.
Incredible.
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Thank ya sir. I took a lot of inspiration from guys like Jamie Lewis, Jessie Norris and Dan Green to keep at this path. They are by no means “bodybuilder huge” and look very different from people who focus on symmetry with their training, but are fucking ridiculous in a whole different way.
Dan is largely credited as being one of the first to make the world realize that you don’t have to be a fat piece of shit to be absurdly strong. Really though, I think Kirk Karwoski was the original “jacked as fuck while posting absurd totals” poster child.
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You ever watch Callier Woolams lifts?
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Thats the largest I have seen him
Everyone shit a brick about eddie hall deading 1100 @ 400lbs
What about what callier did at just over 200?
That is lb for lb the most impressive thing I have seen in the world of lifting.
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Yeah, Cailer is fucking nuts. I’ve been watching him since he was a 181 and steadily growing. Dude reminds me of Ed Coan in the way he’s grown in a short period of time, and my god that deadlift.
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I slid a lumbar watching it. Its weird how size does not equate to strength.
The bigger you get its like the added mass does less and less.
I would like to see callier try the keg toss the strongmen do. He would probably mop that shit up too just because he is faster moving.
He was doing sets of BOR with 475lb If I recall correctly. Thats wild.
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This is why, the more I learn about AAS, the more amused I am at what the natural world thinks it knows. The whole “10% performance increase” is the most amusing.
Looking at the data sets for where those numbers are coming from is enlightening. Those guys are all running test deca dbol cycles. That’s a great stack for offseason mass, but dogshit for performance in weight restricted sports.
Literally one guy in the data set was running tren at a low dose, and his base was still big on test and deca. No mention of halo or cheque, not enough tren, no masteron, no anavar, no turinabol, etc.
I don’t know who the fuck is building those guys drug stacks, but they need to be fired.
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My girlfriend is fucking amazing. She knows that I’m running a bulking cycle and that I always end up hating food before it’s halfway over.
Her solutions are my Christmas presents:
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Deadlift: 1x135/5x160/5x205/5x250/5x295/5x340/5x385/3x10x245/2x5x245
DB Incline Bench: 6x15x65s
CS Rows: 5x15x65s
Time: 43:31
High volume deads are definitely not cycle friendly, regardless of weight, apparently. Fuck it, I’ll see what happens after the initial dbol dosage goes down.
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Back Squat: 1x135/5x185/5x225/5x265/5x315/5x350/5x390/5x10x265
Dips: 6x15x35
Pullups: 5x10x35
Time: 51:31
Cutting the dbol back to 25/day a couple of week early. Getting big fast, but it’s annihilating my work capacity.
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Bench Press: 1x45/5x115/5x140/5x165/5x190/5x215/5x240/5x10x165
DB Squat: 6x15x100
DB SLDL: 5x10x100s
Time: 41:15
Better, but still not acceptable.
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Deadlift: 1x135/5x205/5x250/5x295/5x340/5x385/5x430/2x10x295/3x5x295
DB Incline Bench: 6x15x70s
CS Rows: 5x15x70s
Time: 56:18
Fuck.
Gonna have to come up with a different game plan for this cycle. This program sucks fucking ass with volume AAS.
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Bench Press: 1x45/95/135/155/9x5x170/18x170
Close Grip Cable Row: 1x160/180/5x200-12/12/13/12/10
5 rep Myo CG Pulldowns: 135x20/2x5
5 rep Myo tri-bar French Press: 55x25/5x5
5 rep Myo Side Laterals: 20sx15/2x5
5 rep Myo EZ Bar Curl: 65x25/4x5
5 rep Myo Pec Deck: 100x18/1x5/1x3
Picked up the old program where I left off. Smoked the old amrap and left some in the tank.
Here we go again.
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Also, scaling in at 205 naked morning weight right now.
Adding in 240 mast/week to add a little anabolism in the face of cutting the dbol to 25/day, and also interested to see if it slows the smoothing a bit.
Feeling fantastic, much stronger, slightly fluffy.
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Back Squat: 1x135/225/265/9x5x280/17x280
5 rep Myo Calf Press: 455x20/3x5
5 rep Myo Leg Ext: 160x18/4x5
5 rep Myo Seated HS Curl: 160x17/2x5
5 rep Myo Adduction: 175x36/3x5
5 rep Myo Abduction: 175x35/4x5
Jesus Christ, it tastes like burning.
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Standing Strict Press: 1x45/95/115/9x5x120/16x120
5 rep Myo Pullups: 17/2x5/1x3
5 rep Myo DB Incline Bench: 70sx18/1x5
5 rep Myo CS Row: 160x12/2x5
5 rep Myo Mendy Shrug: 405x10/3x5
5 rep Myo Upright Row: 75x23/3x5
5 rep Myo Stiff Arm Pulldown: 90x30/120x12/3x5
Better than my old PR, which is weird, considering that I haven’t train overhead in a couple of months now.
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Still plugging away, huh?made some great improvements man..look like a different person..congrats on the lifestyle transition..feels good huh?probably be awhile before I get on here again.. so I wanted to congratulate you for your discipline!!
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Greatly appreciated.
Yeah, it feels absolutely fantastic. Yeah, things hurt from time to time, but a lot less severe and less frequent than when I was fat and sedentary.
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Don’t forget the women
All of a sudden there noticing you a lot more too!
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Uh oh- Now you have jealous wifey!Don’t forget the women
All of a sudden there noticing you a lot more too!
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Haha, if they’re noticing, they’re not telling. Lifting heavy shit fixes a lot of things, but ugly isn’t one of them.
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Deadlift:
1x135/225/275/9x5x315/16x315
Wide Stance Box Squats: 5x3x225
5 rep Myo Scap Pullups: 23/3x5
8 rep Myo Reverse Hyper: 25/3x8
Ab wheel: 5x-18/10/10/9/5
4 rep Myo Forearm Ext: 45x13/2x4
5 rep Myo Forearm Curl: 85x15/2x5
Could have pulled a couple more on the last set, but the upper glute pump was getting out of hand.
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Bench Press: 1x45/95/135/5x155/5x175/9x3x190/17x190
Close Grip Cable Row: 1x160/180/5x205-14/12/10/8/7
5 rep Myo NG Pulldowns: 135x16/2x5
5 rep Myo tri-bar French Press: 65x24/3x5
5 rep Myo Side Laterals: 20sx19/2x5
5 rep Myo EZ Bar Curl: 65x28/3x5/1x4
5 rep Myo Pec Deck: 100x19/2x5
That was an unexpected improvement.
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Back Squat: 1x135/225/5x255/5x290/9x3x315/16x315
5 rep Myo Calf Press: 455x20/3x5
6 rep Myo Leg Ext: 160x21/3x6
8 rep Myo Reverse Hyper: 30/3x8
5 rep Myo Adduction: 175x38/4x5
5 rep Myo Abduction: 175x38/4x5
Something something masteron.
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Those squats would kill me
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They made me feel like I was dying by rep 12, but I’ve learned to tell my brain to stop being a pussy. It’s usually the upper glute pump that finally ends my set.
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Standing Strict Press: 1x45/95/5x110/5x125/9x3x135/14x135
5 rep Myo Pullups: 17/2x5/1x2
5 rep Myo DB Incline Bench: 75sx15/1x5
5 rep Myo CS Row: 160x12/2x5
5 rep Myo Rear Delt: 100x19/3x5/1x3
5 rep Myo Upright Row: 75x18/3x5
5 rep Myo Stiff Arm Pulldown: 85x29/130x10/3x5
Not quite the same improvement as bench, but I’ll take it. Especially considering how little pressing I’ve done in recent months.
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Deadlift:
1x135/225/5x280/5x320/9x3x345/16x345
Wide Stance Box Squats: 5x3x275
8 rep Myo Reverse Hyper: 26/3x8
Weighted ab: 4x90-12/9/7/5
5 rep Myo HS Pullover-180x13/1x5/1x4
Everyone: “Ease into hook grip just doing your warmups with it for a while.”
Me: “Nope.”
Pretty sure my thumbs will be useless for a week.
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I started experimenting with hook grip and I truly suck at it....
my hook grip gives out after 485 but my over/under has gone over 600.
I gotta be doing something wrong....
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Make sure to chalk the living hell out of your thumbs, including the backside where you’re pinching them.
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Bench Press: 1x45/95/135/5x140/3x170/1x195/10+x210-15 completed (+12.5 TM)
Close Grip Cable Row: 1x160/180/5x205-15/13/12/10/10
5 rep Myo NG Pulldowns: 135x20/3x5
5 rep Myo tri-bar French Press: 65x27/3x5
5 rep Myo Side Laterals: 20sx20/2x5
5 rep Myo EZ Bar Curl: 85x15/3x5
5 rep Myo Pec Deck: 110x18/2x5
Last time I tried that, it was ten reps before my body tapped out. Looks like shit’s working.
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No. You are just becoming less of a pussy. LOL
I just couldn’t resist
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I mean, I am getting better at ignoring the burning in muh man boobies while getting into higher rep ranges.
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No. You are just becoming less of a pussy. LOL
I just couldn’t resist
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Back Squat: 1x135/225/5x230/3x280/1x325/10+x350-13 completed (+15 TM)
5 rep Myo Calf Press: 495x17/3x5
6 rep Myo Leg Ext: 160x22/4x6
8 rep Myo Reverse Hyper: 30/4x8
5 rep Myo Adduction: 175x40/4x5
5 rep Myo Abduction: 175x42/5x5
That was fun.
Last time I tried that amrap in August I only got 8.
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Standing Strict Press: 1x45/95/5x100/3x120/1x140/10+x150-12 completed (+5 TM)
5 rep Myo Pullups: 17/2x5/1x3
5 rep Myo DB Incline Bench: 75sx16/1x5
5 rep Myo CS Row: 160x13/2x5
5 rep Myo Rear Delt: 70x11/2x5
5 rep Myo Stiff Arm Pulldown: 90x20/4x5
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