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    We do have weakened immune system but most of us are fairly healthy people i think. Im gonna just stay on a cruise dose of test for awhile I already feel more normal and weight is holding...as for tren id leave it alone for now. Heres a little excerpt about testosterone, remember tren is 5x more powerful



    Testosterone effects

    Additional analyses showed that testosterone reduces levels of certain transcription factors (regulatory proteins) that ordinarily prevent Module 52 genes from “turning on.” In other words, higher testosterone levels result in more Module 52 expression. Several Module 52 genes have known immune-system connections; activation of one of these genes, for example, results in the accelerated differentiation of cells whose job it is to suppress, rather than foster, immune response. These connections make the interactions of the genes with testosterone an intriguing target of further exploration by immunologists, physiologists and drug researchers, Davis said.

    But perhaps more intriguing, to many, is this: Why would evolution have designed a hormone that on the one hand enhances classic male secondary sexual characteristics, such as muscle strength, beard growth and risk-taking propensity, and on the other hand wussifies men’s immune systems?

    The evolutionary selection pressure for male characteristics ranging from peacocks’ plumage to deer’s antlers to fighter pilots’ heroism is pretty obvious: Females, especially at mating-cycle peaks, prefer males with prodigious testosterone-driven traits.

    Davis speculates that high testosterone may provide another, less obvious evolutionary advantage. “Ask yourself which sex is more likely to clash violently with, and do grievous bodily harm to, others of their own sex,” he said. Men are prone to suffer wounds from their competitive encounters, not to mention from their traditional roles in hunting, defending kin and hauling things around, increasing their infection risk.

    While it’s good to have a decent immune response to pathogens, an overreaction to them — as occurs in highly virulent influenza strains, SARS, dengue and many other diseases — can be more damaging than the pathogen itself. Women, with their robust immune responses, are twice as susceptible as men to death from the systemic inflammatory overdrive called sepsis. So perhaps, Davis suggests, having a somewhat weakened (but not too weak) immune system can prove more lifesaving than life-threatening for a dominant male in the prime of life.

    Other Stanford co-authors were Cornelia Dekker, MD, professor of pediatrics and medical director of the Stanford-LPCH Vaccine Program; Robert Tibshirani, PhD, professor of statistics and of health research and policy; and Noah Simon, PhD, a former postdoctoral scholar in Tibshirani’s group, now on the faculty of the University of Washington.

    The study was funded by the Ellison Medical Foundation, Howard Hughes Medical Institute, and the National Institutes of Health (grants U19AIO57229 and U19AIO90019).

    Information on Stanford’s Department of Microbiology and Immunology, which also supported this work, is available at Microbiology & Immunology | Microbiology & Immunology | Stanford Medicine.

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    I dont give two shits and I been through 500 pandemics before this.

    We all panic now because people are pussies today!

    Excuse me while I down a busch light, smoke a cigarette and do give a damn!

    Shooting the rest of my tren with a dirty needle when I get home!

    Not here... No way corona could infect AR! Then I log on and here it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The road View Post
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    Shooting the rest of my tren with a dirty needle when I get home!

    Not here... No way corona could infect AR! Then I log on and here it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proximal View Post
    Nice home! Is it looking out onto a river?
    Big ass lake city of richie riches.
    I been trying to get in down there for years. I will send you a vid when dine editing in a week or so.
    It was gorgeous!

    Perfect weather! The view from the top was priceless

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    I am about 3 weeks from coming off my current cycle which is getting close to when the traditional flu season starts kicking in here and things start cooling down, which the virus seems to prefer.
    I was wondering what my immune system was going to be like in the next few months as I come off cycle and have low testosterone. How is our immune system when we come off?
    If it is low, will this maybe increase the chances of getting the virus, but reduce any chance of over immune responses?
    I am not overly concerned, as like most of us in here am not the typical 80yo or sickly victim.
    Any ideas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The road View Post
    Big ass lake city of richie riches.
    I been trying to get in down there for years. I will send you a vid when dine editing in a week or so.
    It was gorgeous!

    Perfect weather! The view from the top was priceless
    I myself, dislike those f-s, but yeah, gotta think that your view & the view from their windows was insane.

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    I sweat when I did tren. A classic symptom they are watching for is a fever. I think any sides that could pose a conflict, IF they test you, IF you are exposed and THINK you could be infected, is going to create a POSSIBLE problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The road View Post
    I dont give two shits and I been through 500 pandemics before this.

    We all panic now because people are pussies today!

    Excuse me while I down a busch light, smoke a cigarette and do give a damn!

    Shooting the rest of my tren with a dirty needle when I get home!

    Not here... No way corona could infect AR! Then I log on and here it is.

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    Its a beautiful day! Dont be a pussy!
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    U dont care cause u are suicidal, scatty. This situation is perfect for u.
    But some of us stil enjoy life and smell some 3 days unwashed young pink pussy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AR's King Silabolin View Post
    smell some 3 days unwashed young pink pussy.

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    You call me suicidal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuz View Post
    While it’s good to have a decent immune response to pathogens, an overreaction to them — as occurs in highly virulent influenza strains, SARS, dengue and many other diseases — can be more damaging than the pathogen itself. Women, with their robust immune responses, are twice as susceptible as men to death from the systemic inflammatory overdrive called sepsis. So perhaps, Davis suggests, having a somewhat weakened (but not too weak) immune system can prove more lifesaving than life-threatening for a dominant male in the prime of life.
    I was just talking to someone about this the other day - the idea that an overreaction of the immune system (such as during an allergic reaction) is what can be worse than the effects of the virus directly. Just like an allergen can make someone stop breathing because of the inflammatory response of the respiratory tract during an allergic reaction, a similar thing can theoretically happen from a virus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuz View Post
    We do have weakened immune system but most of us are fairly healthy people i think. Im gonna just stay on a cruise dose of test for awhile I already feel more normal and weight is holding...as for tren id leave it alone for now. Heres a little excerpt about testosterone, remember tren is 5x more powerful



    Testosterone effects

    Additional analyses showed

    But perhaps more intriguing, to many, is this: Why would evolution have designed a hormone that on the one hand enhances classic male secondary sexual characteristics, such as muscle strength, beard growth and risk-taking propensity, and on the other hand wussifies men’s immune systems?

    The evolutionary selection



    Information on Stanford’s Department of Microbiology and Immunology, which also supported this work, is available at Microbiology & Immunology | Microbiology & Immunology | Stanford Medicine.
    Probleme is, evolution didnt create tren. We did.
    Im pretty sure a good testlevel do not degrade mans virus combat possibilities, but humans with breathing/lounges abnormalities are at a higher risk.
    Tren for sure degrades my cardio. Test does not.
    Nevertheless. My plan in Norway is now:
    Gyms are said to be closed to 26 mars. Im 3 weeks into tren e cycle. I will shoot next week and the next week. Homegym training.
    But, if the gyms will stil be closed after 26 mars, i will strongly consider to end my cycle, because 50% of my cycle pleasure is from looking good in the gym and impress others.
    My walls in my homegym just give a rats ass on how i look.
    Instead i fire things up in may/june and summer when the gym girls and their chicken asses once can be found in the public gyms.
    Thats my plan, u must always have a plan guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuz View Post
    We do have weakened immune system but most of us are fairly healthy people i think. Im gonna just stay on a cruise dose of test for awhile I already feel more normal and weight is holding...as for tren id leave it alone for now. Heres a little excerpt about testosterone, remember tren is 5x more powerful



    Testosterone effects

    Additional analyses showed that testosterone reduces levels of certain transcription factors (regulatory proteins) that ordinarily prevent Module 52 genes from “turning on.” In other words, higher testosterone levels result in more Module 52 expression. Several Module 52 genes have known immune-system connections; activation of one of these genes, for example, results in the accelerated differentiation of cells whose job it is to suppress, rather than foster, immune response. These connections make the interactions of the genes with testosterone an intriguing target of further exploration by immunologists, physiologists and drug researchers, Davis said.

    But perhaps more intriguing, to many, is this: Why would evolution have designed a hormone that on the one hand enhances classic male secondary sexual characteristics, such as muscle strength, beard growth and risk-taking propensity, and on the other hand wussifies men’s immune systems?

    The evolutionary selection pressure for male characteristics ranging from peacocks’ plumage to deer’s antlers to fighter pilots’ heroism is pretty obvious: Females, especially at mating-cycle peaks, prefer males with prodigious testosterone-driven traits.

    Davis speculates that high testosterone may provide another, less obvious evolutionary advantage. “Ask yourself which sex is more likely to clash violently with, and do grievous bodily harm to, others of their own sex,” he said. Men are prone to suffer wounds from their competitive encounters, not to mention from their traditional roles in hunting, defending kin and hauling things around, increasing their infection risk.

    While it’s good to have a decent immune response to pathogens, an overreaction to them — as occurs in highly virulent influenza strains, SARS, dengue and many other diseases — can be more damaging than the pathogen itself. Women, with their robust immune responses, are twice as susceptible as men to death from the systemic inflammatory overdrive called sepsis. So perhaps, Davis suggests, having a somewhat weakened (but not too weak) immune system can prove more lifesaving than life-threatening for a dominant male in the prime of life.

    Other Stanford co-authors were Cornelia Dekker, MD, professor of pediatrics and medical director of the Stanford-LPCH Vaccine Program; Robert Tibshirani, PhD, professor of statistics and of health research and policy; and Noah Simon, PhD, a former postdoctoral scholar in Tibshirani’s group, now on the faculty of the University of Washington.

    The study was funded by the Ellison Medical Foundation, Howard Hughes Medical Institute, and the National Institutes of Health (grants U19AIO57229 and U19AIO90019).

    Information on Stanford’s Department of Microbiology and Immunology, which also supported this work, is available at Microbiology & Immunology | Microbiology & Immunology | Stanford Medicine.

    I've read the Stanford Studies. Hell, I've read most studies related to testosterone. What most are missing in the article (I attached it) is the last paragraph:

    While it’s good to have a decent immune response to pathogens, an overreaction to them — as occurs in highly virulent influenza strains, SARS, dengue and many other diseases — can be more damaging than the pathogen itself. Women, with their robust immune responses, are twice as susceptible as men to death from the systemic inflammatory overdrive called sepsis. So perhaps, Davis suggests, having a somewhat weakened (but not too weak) immune system can prove more lifesaving than life-threatening for a dominant male in the prime of life.

    https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-ne...udy-finds.html
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