Deca over 40 years old

[Zman600]

I don’t recommend Deca for people who cycle on and off. Especially not at your age where you should be (or at least would benefit) from being on HRT anyway. The shutdown from 19nor based compounds is the hardest

If you want to cycle on and off your best bet is to use DHT derived compounds. They’re usually the easiest to recover from.

- Anavar
- Primobolan
- Masteron
- Winstrol
- Anadrol

Thanks for the reply
Should i just stick with test and dianabol cycle would it be safer for recovery even i try to stay away from orals because i had blood test and liver ALT 295ui on cycle

[i_SLAM_cougars]

Thanks for the reply
Should i just stick with test and dianabol cycle would it be safer for recovery even i try to stay away from orals because i had blood test and liver ALT 295ui on cycle

Your liver values are going to be elevated while you’re taking dbol, but not enough to worry about. If it makes you uneasy take anavar. It’s the easiest on your liver (and body) of all the orals. However dianabol is far from being a “harsh” oral.

What are your goals, and what are you looking to get from this cycle? You said mentioned deca and dbol, so I assume you’re looking to add some mass.
DHB is also good for this purpose.

[Zman600]

Your liver values are going to be elevated while you’re taking dbol, but not enough to worry about. If it makes you uneasy take anavar. It’s the easiest on your liver (and body) of all the orals. However dianabol is far from being a “harsh” oral.

What are your goals, and what are you looking to get from this cycle? You said mentioned deca and dbol, so I assume you’re looking to add some mass.
DHB is also good for this purpose.

As far as my goals, i am looking to add some clean mass. I thaught about deca is because i try to stay away from orals but when i did my research i found out the recovery is almost impossible at my age. I am not in a hurry i don’t look for massive gains so quick i just want some clean bulk

[i_SLAM_cougars]

As far as my goals, i am looking to add some clean mass. I thaught about deca is because i try to stay away from orals but when i did my research i found out the recovery is almost impossible at my age. I am not in a hurry i don’t look for massive gains so quick i just want some clean bulk

MK677 is also a fantastic compliment to any cycle.

One more question, are you estrogen sensitive or are there any side effects that you seem to get that really stand out?

[flexin-rph]

I do think if you are going to do orals, it's much more important at this age to keep bloodwork done frequently. Orals DO raise ldl & lower hdl more so than injectables. Keep an eye on those values. Speaking from my experience.

[Zman600]

I do think if you are going to do orals, it's much more important at this age to keep bloodwork done frequently. Orals DO raise ldl & lower hdl more so than injectables. Keep an eye on those values. Speaking from my experience.

Thanks for your reply
I did blood work every 15-20 days while on cycle after 1 week dianabol AST 64
Afetr 3weeks AST 295 and i stopped immediately

[flexin-rph]

As many knowledgeable members have stated, not everyone will have problems with orals & lipid issues. It stands to be reiterated that "this is your body, & do what you can safely tolerate".

[Zman600]

MK677 is also a fantastic compliment to any cycle.

One more question, are you estrogen sensitive or are there any side effects that you seem to get that really stand out?

No i am not estrogen sensitive blood work on cycle estradiol 29.3 normal 0-62
Side effects than stand out liver enzymes
ALT 295
AST 71
HDL 0.18 normal >0.40

[i_SLAM_cougars]

Well then why not try something like:

Week 1-12
Testosterone - 750mg per week
DHB - 400mg per week
MK677 - 25mg per night

Week 1-4
Dianabol - 20mg per day

Week 4-12
Anavar - 30mg per day

[Zman600]

Well then why not try something like:

Week 1-12
Testosterone - 750mg per week
DHB - 400mg per week
MK677 - 25mg per night

Week 1-4
Dianabol - 20mg per day

Week 4-12
Anavar - 30mg per day

The country i live only have access to
Testosterone
Deca
Equipoise
Dianabol
Anavar
Winstrol
Should i consider EQ
I only have access to liv52 and milk thistle
Don’t you think that 12 week orals is harsh on liver