side effects of AI use

[GearHeaded]

the lethargy that comes from AI is this because of crashed estrogen or is it some other reason because as you know i am experiencing this lethargy but i am holding a ton of water witch i i thought was from high e2 is all this water just coming from my mk677

having water retention is NOT from your estrogen levels.. thats a bro myth (estrogen has very secondary effect on water retention) its the compounds themselves causing water retention .. which is not a bad thing as water retention helps with a volumization of muscle cells ..
BUT too much water retention can effect your sleep and your cardiac/pulmonary out put . and yes thus cause lethargy .

I don't give direct diuretic advice over the internet (yes lots of things you can take). but I can say that perhaps a natural diuretic , a high dose of vitamin c and some dandelion root supplements may help you out , or there are supplements from places like Blackstone labs that work as natural diuretics .

you can also drop your carbs and go Keto for a few days and you will lose some of the water naturally

[Livinlean]

having water retention is NOT from your estrogen levels.. thats a bro myth (estrogen has very secondary effect on water retention) its the compounds themselves causing water retention .. which is not a bad thing as water retention helps with a volumization of muscle cells ..
BUT too much water retention can effect your sleep and your cardiac/pulmonary out put . and yes thus cause lethargy .

I don't give direct diuretic advice over the internet (yes lots of things you can take). but I can say that perhaps a natural diuretic , a high dose of vitamin c and some dandelion root supplements may help you out , or there are supplements from places like Blackstone labs that work as natural diuretics .

you can also drop your carbs and go Keto for a few days and you will lose some of the water naturally

I use the high dose vitamin C + Dandelion root method and it seems to work just fine.

Has your stance on adding nolvadex changed at all?

[GearHeaded]

I use the high dose vitamin C + Dandelion root method and it seems to work just fine.

Has your stance on adding nolvadex changed at all?

nolvadex works great for an estrogen/volumization blasting phase, for those that need it and are estrogen sensitive .. but for the most part , if you set up your AAS stacking properly , you don't need any ancillary drugs at all.
most AAS don't even aromatize to begin with and some , like masteron and primo have anti progestin and anti estrogen effects all on their own

[Livinlean]

nolvadex works great for an estrogen/volumization blasting phase, for those that need it and are estrogen sensitive .. but for the most part , if you set up your AAS stacking properly , you don't need any ancillary drugs at all.
most AAS don't even aromatize to begin with and some , like masteron and primo have anti progestin and anti estrogen effects all on their own

I agree, I ran 1G deca + 1G test with no AI and had no issues. Didn't bother adding in nolvadex either. Just wanted to get your take on it incase you had changed your stance from a few months ago.

[kelkel]

I agree, I ran 1G deca + 1G test with no AI and had no issues. Didn't bother adding in nolvadex either. Just wanted to get your take on it incase you had changed your stance from a few months ago.

A gram of deca. Damn, how'd that feel?

[Livinlean]

A gram of deca. Damn, how'd that feel?

Not as great as I expected. It was just an experiment to try the so called pro making dosages we see online. Al though I didn't get any notable side effects, I also didn't get any crazy results. NPP at 600mg gave me better pumps, strength and fullness and I only needed to run it for half the time. Likely will not run Deca again.

[kelkel]

Not as great as I expected. It was just an experiment to try the so called pro making dosages we see online. Al though I didn't get any notable side effects, I also didn't get any crazy results. NPP at 600mg gave me better pumps, strength and fullness and I only needed to run it for half the time. Likely will not run Deca again.

I think there's a point of diminished results with just about everything. Just have to learn what it is for each of us.