side effects of AI use

[GearHeaded]

I use the high dose vitamin C + Dandelion root method and it seems to work just fine.

Has your stance on adding nolvadex changed at all?

nolvadex works great for an estrogen/volumization blasting phase, for those that need it and are estrogen sensitive .. but for the most part , if you set up your AAS stacking properly , you don't need any ancillary drugs at all.
most AAS don't even aromatize to begin with and some , like masteron and primo have anti progestin and anti estrogen effects all on their own

[Livinlean]

nolvadex works great for an estrogen/volumization blasting phase, for those that need it and are estrogen sensitive .. but for the most part , if you set up your AAS stacking properly , you don't need any ancillary drugs at all.
most AAS don't even aromatize to begin with and some , like masteron and primo have anti progestin and anti estrogen effects all on their own

I agree, I ran 1G deca + 1G test with no AI and had no issues. Didn't bother adding in nolvadex either. Just wanted to get your take on it incase you had changed your stance from a few months ago.

[kelkel]

I agree, I ran 1G deca + 1G test with no AI and had no issues. Didn't bother adding in nolvadex either. Just wanted to get your take on it incase you had changed your stance from a few months ago.

A gram of deca. Damn, how'd that feel?

[Livinlean]

A gram of deca. Damn, how'd that feel?

Not as great as I expected. It was just an experiment to try the so called pro making dosages we see online. Al though I didn't get any notable side effects, I also didn't get any crazy results. NPP at 600mg gave me better pumps, strength and fullness and I only needed to run it for half the time. Likely will not run Deca again.

[kelkel]

Not as great as I expected. It was just an experiment to try the so called pro making dosages we see online. Al though I didn't get any notable side effects, I also didn't get any crazy results. NPP at 600mg gave me better pumps, strength and fullness and I only needed to run it for half the time. Likely will not run Deca again.

I think there's a point of diminished results with just about everything. Just have to learn what it is for each of us.

[i_SLAM_cougars]

I think there's a point of diminished results with just about everything. Just have to learn what it is for each of us.

I’ve noticed this to be the case with basically all oral steroids I’ve ever used. However with injectable steroids (for the most part) it would seem that more always yields more results. Anyone else have a similar experience?

[GearHeaded]

I’ve noticed this to be the case with basically all oral steroids I’ve ever used. However with injectable steroids (for the most part) it would seem that more always yields more results. Anyone else have a similar experience?

more always yields more to a degree..
you get a buzz off a couple beers , but you can still keep going and drink a 12 pack and get drunk.

more simply has more effects, period.

its not like magically at beer number 6 things turn off and beer number 7 will no longer have an effect ..


with AAS use . the limitation is the physiological limitation, not the drugs themselves. high dosages work. the problem is , we don't train hard enough, eat enough, and sleep enough, etc.. to get the results out of the high dosages , so we think our drugs are either fake or we think we got to a levels of "diminishing returns" for our dosages .

your diet, your training style and intensity, and your sleep and recovery ability ,, thats what dictates your dosages.
if you train like a little bitch , then sure 500mg test is all you need . if you train your ass off and no how to go way past failure and move some heavy ass weight , you may want to hit 1200mg of test... same with food.

the limitations are physiological and mental . . the way drugs work, they always work. more is more, there is no diminishing returns with the drugs themselves.
1000mg of test is always going to bind to more receptors and up regulate things more then 500mg of test