Quote Originally Posted by Beetlegeuse View Post
I was taught many moons ago by an old Muscogee Creek Indian chief (how could you possibly make that up??!?) that the 'magic' formula for 9mm was 4.2 grains of Bullseye. Works reasonably well with any bullet weight, any brand of casing and any primer.
I was taught by an old brass rat that 5.4gr of W231 was a good load for 200gr SWC and it worked great.

For my Speer Gold Dots and Hornady XTPs in .45ACP and 9mm I tend to defer to the Vihtavuori load data and work up just a smidge. Love Vihtavuori, especially for the .357 S&W mag; the muzzle flash at night is much lower w/ Vihtavuori.