Cutting advice

[Gallowmere]

How are you thinking this would help my goal in this case? More energy use for burning protein?

Remember this: gluconeogensis is a demand driven process. As such, if you don’t have circulating amino acids to be used in this process, the body is going to strip from your only available storage (muscle tissue and organs) to make it happen. Since your goal is preservation of lean tissue, fat is doing pretty much fuck all for you on this front.
Also, I have to imagine that eating ~226g of fat with everything else being that low is pretty miserable and disgusting.

[tarmyg]

Remember this: gluconeogensis is a demand driven process. As such, if you don’t have circulating amino acids to be used in this process, the body is going to strip from your only available storage (muscle tissue and organs) to make it happen. Since your goal is preservation of lean tissue, fat is doing pretty much fuck all for you on this front.
Also, I have to imagine that eating ~226g of fat with everything else being that low is pretty miserable and disgusting.

Your advice is solid as always. Going to change that for one week and report back. In regards to fat, if you love whipped cream it's pretty easy :-)

[Gallowmere]

Your advice is solid as always. Going to change that for one week and report back. In regards to fat, if you love whipped cream it's pretty easy :-)

Fair enough, I suppose.
I’ve just found this weird “up the fat” thing that’s been kicking around the past few years to be really weird from both a logical and biological perspective.
There’s literally nothing that it does that another macronutrient doesn’t do better, when it comes to performance and physique based outcomes.
Protein is more protein sparing.
Carbohydrate is better for muscular anabolism on nearly every front.
Protein requires a three step process to he stored as triglyceride (it pretty much never happens).
Carbohydrate requires two, and only happens when either majorly overfeeding calories from them, or while restricting fat intake heavily (>20g/day range).
Fat requires no extra steps to be stored as triglyceride, and even in the face of a deficit, has a lower TEF value, while also potentially contributing to problematic blood lipid levels.

[tarmyg]

Fair enough, I suppose.
I’ve just found this weird “up the fat” thing that’s been kicking around the past few years to be really weird from both a logical and biological perspective.
There’s literally nothing that it does that another macronutrient doesn’t do better, when it comes to performance and physique based outcomes.
Protein is more protein sparing.
Carbohydrate is better for muscular anabolism on nearly every front.
Protein requires a three step process to he stored as triglyceride (it pretty much never happens).
Carbohydrate requires two, and only happens when either majorly overfeeding calories from them, or while restricting fat intake heavily (>20g/day range).
Fat requires no extra steps to be stored as triglyceride, and even in the face of a deficit, has a lower TEF value, while also potentially contributing to problematic blood lipid levels.

I do realize there is no actual benefit to cutting using a low-carb diet and whatnot but it does make me feel better. I can best describe it as "I feel less hungry" but that is the best I can get to. I have zero evidence beyond "how it makes me feel". There was a new interesting study around the subject I just read today, not had a chance to fully digest it yet but staying on a Keto diet long-term (beyond treating epilepsy) seems less than healthy. REF: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41392-020-00411-4

[Gallowmere]

I do realize there is no actual benefit to cutting using a low-carb diet and whatnot but it does make me feel better. I can best describe it as "I feel less hungry" but that is the best I can get to. I have zero evidence beyond "how it makes me feel". There was a new interesting study around the subject I just read today, not had a chance to fully digest it yet but staying on a Keto diet long-term (beyond treating epilepsy) seems less than healthy. REF: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41392-020-00411-4

Want to feel even less hungry? Use the cutting protocol that I do. 2g/lbs. LBM protein, all from the leanest protein sources available, and just enough w-3 pufas to cover actual biological need. After that, it’s just multivitamins and electrolytes.
My macros come out to ~360 protein, 0g carbohydrate, and ~6g fat per day, when using completely defatted chicken breast and fish oil.
So roughly 1500 kcals/day, all from the most protein sparing and metabolically demanding macronutrient, and I still don’t even start getting hungry until the end of the 12 day run. Generally knocks about 8-10 lbs. off of me in the 14 day run, post refeed.

Also, I’m not serious. Don’t do the stupid shit that I do without reading up on the protocol first (Rapid Fat Loss Protocol).