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[The Deadlifting Dog]

Those were tax dollars well spent...

His death at the hands of the police = the best thing that ever happened to that family, since some Portuguese, Dutch or English traders contracted with some coastal tribe/s to procure for them human cargo, to sell as chattel slaves in the New World.

Perfectly said

So let me get this straight...
Please correct me if I am wrong.

XnavyHMCS:
You are saying that the 2nd best thing to happen to George Floyd's family is that George Floyd died.
And...
The best thing to happen to George Floyd's family is that they were bought as slaves?

And Cuz:
You wholeheartedly agree?

[Cuz]

So let me get this straight...
Please correct me if I am wrong.

XnavyHMCS:
You are saying that the 2nd best thing to happen to George Floyd's family is that George Floyd died.
And...
The best thing to happen to George Floyd's family is that they were bought as slaves?

And Cuz:
You wholeheartedly agree?

Dog, while your words are little more straightforward my statement stands. You see, sacrifices are made. US soldiers have made sacrifices for our freedom, if they didnt we would still be doing whatever Great Britain allowed us to do. Do you follow me? Floyd was a criminal, attributed not a godamn thing to society yes his “family” if you will, collects millions. Pretty sure he hit one of his girlfriends in the stomach while she was pregnant the guy was a piece of shit no matter what, he wasnt any kind of martyr surely you don’t believe he was man do you? Did he die in cuffs? Yes im sorry he did he shouldnt have. He should have been stood up and slammed on the hood of the car like most criminals get when the DONT FOLLOW THE OFFICERS INSTRUCTIONS ...but like i said, Chauvin will be reprimanded by his actions for kneeling on his neck after he was unconscious. Probably would have been shot or killed with a bad drug deal eventually i dont know and I really dont care

And slaves... i know you like to talk about that subject but im not gonna debate with you because we will never agree. What i will ask you, do you think if the american settlers hadnt brought them over here, when they were sold by their own people... black people would prosper like they are today? I think you know the answer..look at lebron james’ we have, the kanye wests... and so on. Not gonna happen in Sierra Leone or

Again, sacrifices were made. Yes its ugly, history is ugly. But you know what? Things are sure better for the black man than they were in AFRICA i can tell you that. It sounds bad i know, but its the truth

[The Deadlifting Dog]

Dog, while your words are little more straightforward my statement stands. You see, sacrifices are made. US soldiers have made sacrifices for our freedom, if they didnt we would still be doing whatever Great Britain allowed us to do. Do you follow me? I am not following you. Not saying I disagree. I am saying I don't understand what you are saying. Floyd was a criminal, attributed not a godamn thing to society yes his “family” if you will, collects millions. Pretty sure he hit one of his girlfriends in the stomach while she was pregnant the guy was a piece of shit no matter what, he wasnt any kind of martyr surely you don’t believe he was man do you? Did he die in cuffs? Yes im sorry he did he shouldnt have. He should have been stood up and slammed on the hood of the car like most criminals get when the DONT FOLLOW THE OFFICERS INSTRUCTIONS ...but like i said, Chauvin will be reprimanded by his actions for kneeling on his neck after he was unconscious. Probably would have been shot or killed with a bad drug deal eventually i dont know and I really dont care

And slaves... i know you like to talk about that subject but im not gonna debate with you because we will never agree. What i will ask you, do you think if the american settlers hadnt brought them over here, when they were sold by their own people... black people would prosper like they are today? I think you know the answer..look at lebron james’ we have, the kanye wests... and so on. Not gonna happen in Sierra Leone or

Again, sacrifices were made. Yes its ugly, history is ugly. But you know what? Things are sure better for the black man than they were in AFRICA i can tell you that. It sounds bad i know, but its the truth

Cuz... read any post of me on this subject.
I never claimed George Floyd was a good man.

Just amazed that a Christian man would say that someone ODing and/or getting killed is a good thing.
Last I knew Jesus preached forgiveness.

(Matthew 6:14–15)
For if you forgive other people when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive others their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.

But hell... Religion is funny like that. Everyone has their own interpertation.

As for slavery...
Please realize that there are many successful Black people in America who came to America after slavery.
So it is very possible that someone's heritage would be better off if they weren't purchased as slaves.
The claim that slavery is actually a good thing is bullshit in my opinion.




But to clarify...
I think George Floyd was no saint.
I understand how people could see his death as good. I don't.

But what I find truly appalling is the belief that slavery was actually a good thing for blacks.
It is better to be poor and free than rich and a slave.
Many, many blacks have succeeded in the world without going the slave route.
Many, many blacks have gone the slave route and not succeeded in the world.

[Cuz]

Cuz... read any post of me on this subject.
I never claimed George Floyd was a good man.

Just amazed that a Christian man would say that someone ODing and/or getting killed is a good thing.
Last I knew Jesus preached forgiveness.

(Matthew 6:14–15)
For if you forgive other people when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive others their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.

But hell... Religion is funny like that. Everyone has their own interpertation.

As for slavery...
Please realize that there are many successful Black people in America who came to America after slavery.
So it is very possible that someone's heritage would be better off if they weren't purchased as slaves.
The claim that slavery is actually a good thing is bullshit in my opinion.




But to clarify...
I think George Floyd was no saint.
I understand how people could see his death as good. I don't.

But what I find truly appalling is the belief that slavery was actually a good thing for blacks.
It is better to be poor and free than rich and a slave.
Many, many blacks have succeeded in the world without going the slave route.
Many, many blacks have gone the slave route and not succeeded in the world.

No sir, slavery is not a good thing. Never said “slavery” in general is a good thing, but what IS a good thing is that African people had slaves in Africa and the pilgrims brought them to what is now the United States. We abolished slavery, black people live better in the United States than most of Africa by a long shot sir. If you can’t comprehend what im trying to say forgive me im not the best with words but what i say i do feel is best.

You just basically take my post and just pull what you want from it. I get that, never said blacks aren’t successful, matter of fact thats quite the opposite..again Look at the Lebrons and Kanyes... my argument is done

[XnavyHMCS]

No sir, slavery is not a good thing. Never said “slavery” in general is a good thing, but what IS a good thing is that African people had slaves in Africa and the pilgrims brought them to what is now the United States. We abolished slavery, black people live better in the United States than most of Africa by a long shot sir. If you can’t comprehend what im trying to say forgive me im not the best with words but what i say i do feel is best.

You just basically take my post and just pull what you want from it. I get that, never said blacks aren’t successful, matter of fact thats quite the opposite..again Look at the Lebrons and Kanyes... my argument is done

Cuz, brother...!!! NOTICE: To any and all of my esteemed forum members who might so happen to be partaking of and practicing the current trend to "be less white" / "stow or deep-six your toxic masculinity" I said "Cuz, brother...!!!", not "Cuz, kindred klansman"...

To Deadlifting Dog:

Hey bro, I meant what I said as an "off-colored" joke; I certainly didn't state anywhere in my brief comment that I believed American slavery to be a good thing. I certainly didn't mean to offend you (or anyone else), personally, in any way shape or form. I don't have to explain my comment, as others who posted after my contribution in question, have done a stellar job of translating just what I meant...

Perhaps you have some experience on the continent in question; ever been there? How many countries did you visit? Tell me about it?

My visiting and staying in 5 African nations by no means qualifies me for expert status; but I have really seen and smelled the "Dark Continent".

I will only say that after the first Gulf War, our nation conducted a tragicomedy incursion in Somalia. We had one black guy in our platoon, and a whole slew of "brothers" onboard the gator freighter which we were passengers. Our colored guy was engaged in some banter with ship's company of the same complexion, and was going on and on with them about, "We goin to thu mutherland" and "muther Africa...". We were all busting our guy's balls when get settled in ashore. And I personally stated to him something to the effect of "Mother Africa, huh? The motherland? Looks like slavery was the best thing that happened to your ancestors; it got them the hell outta here..." Something like that.

So DD, again let me reiterate, I meant no disrespect to yourself nor to anyone else.

Alright, lets get this thread back on track...!!!