Guns and Ammo Thread

[Beetlegeuse]

For the short attention span crowd, the answer is that the "old wives' tale" is not too far wrong but most likely only by accident. This guy uses a heapin' helpin of that 'logic' stuff to arrive at the same point (no old wives were harmed in the making of this video).

The True Distance of a Typical Gunfight



When we rely on statistics to help make important decisions, it's helpful to know if those stats are actually true. We’ve all heard that most gunfights take place at three yards. It’s part of the old “three shots, three yards, three seconds” standard. But where does that come from? Is it reliable? Do we have any other sources that are more reliable or more specific? Today, we're taking a critical look at the available data to find out what's myth and what's relevant for the average armed citizen for concealed carry....

[JTP$]

Are these actual steel core? Or just 62 grain lead? I bought some Hornady m855 penetrator projectiles. I took a magnet to them and nothing. Kind of a disappointment and I've got 500 of them.

M855/SS109 isnt steel core, its steel tip, general purpose light armor piercing.

IMO 55 grain/M193 is a better choice though



basically M855 will go straight through soft targets, M193 will fragment and cause very horrific damage. video shows these results conclusively

I hate how America has the embargo against Russia. I have a neat Russian Saiga 12 guage that I can't import. The ATF keep bum steering me. Apparently Obama brought in the embargo in 2014 against Russian goods.

saiga 12s are cool, i have one as well. but the VEPR12 is better, i dont believe its affected by the import ban either

You sound like me. I bought a couple of "braces" for a PCC I haven't bought yet because I'm waiting for the prices on the gun to go down, but the braces might be "banned"* before that happens.


* Banned, not illegal, because Chairman Xiden runs the executive branch, but only the legislative branch has the power to make something 'illegal.'

i stayed away from braces because i figured they would eventually be banned. but it looks like the courts have thrown that garbage out. im going to wait awhile to make sure its definitively put to bed, then i may buy a brace for my MP5 pistol, my draco AK pistol and my vector V51 HK91K pistol.

what id really like to see is the whole legal classification of short barreled rifle to be thrown out though, my full size uzi 9mm pistol would look sexy with a collapsible stock on it

[Euroholic]

M855/SS109 isnt steel core, its steel tip, general purpose light armor piercing.

IMO 55 grain/M193 is a better choice though



basically M855 will go straight through soft targets, M193 will fragment and cause very horrific damage. video shows these results conclusively





saiga 12s are cool, i have one as well. but the VEPR12 is better, i dont believe its affected by the import ban either



i stayed away from braces because i figured they would eventually be banned. but it looks like the courts have thrown that garbage out. im going to wait awhile to make sure its definitively put to bed, then i may buy a brace for my MP5 pistol, my draco AK pistol and my vector V51 HK91K pistol.

what id really like to see is the whole legal classification of short barreled rifle to be thrown out though, my full size uzi 9mm pistol would look sexy with a collapsible stock on it

I got told all Russian products are under the import ban?