Blood pressure treatment recommendations

[Test Monsterone]

Samson is right, anxiety can raise BP even if on meds.

If you're naturally a more tense person, it can be hard to self-diagnose how you're feeling. I look at it like driving fast. I'm always driving fast, no matter where I go. On the highway if the speed limit is 65, I'm doing 90+. I look at people on the highway and think "how the hell do you drive so slow???" That's my normal cruising speed. I think it's the same with how we feel. When we're just naturally wired a little more tense and agitated, it feels normal to us. You may think you feel fine but compared to other people, you're probably more agitated.

[Fiskevatten]

Samson is right, anxiety can raise BP even if on meds.

If you're naturally a more tense person, it can be hard to self-diagnose how you're feeling. I look at it like driving fast. I'm always driving fast, no matter where I go. On the highway if the speed limit is 65, I'm doing 90+. I look at people on the highway and think "how the hell do you drive so slow???" That's my normal cruising speed. I think it's the same with how we feel. When we're just naturally wired a little more tense and agitated, it feels normal to us. You may think you feel fine but compared to other people, you're probably more agitated.

This metaphor hit the nail on the head, exactly how I live by the word. I always do more, want more, feel more than everyone else. I am a people person and never lash out, but inside I am wired to constantly analyze or think ahead. Been training to limit that and especially become more thankful, it works, but I had to move to another country to make it work.

But I thought things like that temporarily increased heart rate? Not make it a new normal?

[almostgone]

This metaphor hit the nail on the head, exactly how I live by the word. I always do more, want more, feel more than everyone else. I am a people person and never lash out, but inside I am wired to constantly analyze or think ahead. Been training to limit that and especially become more thankful, it works, but I had to move to another country to make it work.

But I thought things like that temporarily increased heart rate? Not make it a new normal?

It depends. Anxiety can become a chronic condition that you aren't always aware of. I can remember a couple/few decades back, my (then) 4 year old niece looked at me and said "You need to relax"....she's told me the same thing many times. Your mind can be working on stuff in the background and you won't even be aware of it.

[wango]

This metaphor hit the nail on the head, exactly how I live by the word. I always do more, want more, feel more than everyone else. I am a people person and never lash out, but inside I am wired to constantly analyze or think ahead. Been training to limit that and especially become more thankful, it works, but I had to move to another country to make it work.

But I thought things like that temporarily increased heart rate? Not make it a new normal?

What TM & AG are incredibly spot-on. First off, stress and stimulants do increase your heart rate, but they are vasoconstrictive which is what is so dangerous for your heart & left ventricle in particular. And, asking your left ventricle to be pushing extra at this age already is not going to end well for you.

Stress/anxiety easily becomes subconscious because you are so used to it being a daily part of your life, which simply means you have to take extra means to reduce it, even if you don’t think you have it.

Address the psychological aspect of this more, minimize your caffeine and dump the energy drinks and pre workout drinks. Find a better MD that will address the anxiety & BP more aggressively. Don’t hesitate taking anxiety and/or BP meds and expect to try different ones until you are getting the results that you want.

Question - what is your family history of strokes and heart attacks?

[Fiskevatten]

What TM & AG are incredibly spot-on. First off, stress and stimulants do increase your heart rate, but they are vasoconstrictive which is what is so dangerous for your heart & left ventricle in particular. And, asking your left ventricle to be pushing extra at this age already is not going to end well for you.

Stress/anxiety easily becomes subconscious because you are so used to it being a daily part of your life, which simply means you have to take extra means to reduce it, even if you don’t think you have it.

Address the psychological aspect of this more, minimize your caffeine and dump the energy drinks and pre workout drinks. Find a better MD that will address the anxiety & BP more aggressively. Don’t hesitate taking anxiety and/or BP meds and expect to try different ones until you are getting the results that you want.

Question - what is your family history of strokes and heart attacks?

I do appreciate it all of you! I haven´t taken the meds yet since I value the advice I get here and these suggestions and speculations that you all have are in the lines of what my friends says as well
who know me.
- My mom has had high BP a long long time. She doesn´t exercise, eat bad and is extremely stressed, but listens to no one. She has meds, but rarely takes them.
She has already had a "pre-heartattack".
- Dad has high BP but do eat the meds, two of them, but have no contact with him so can´t ask. He recently had testicular cancer as well, but beat it.
- Two of my sisters has one issue each. One has too low BP and pulse (can´t remember the name). And the other has a similar occurance so when she exercise her hands and fingers swell up.

My family history is full of inherited issues that might hit me when I am older. So far I am the only one in the entire family that doesn´t have anything....Yet at least.

However, I have been living with anxiety and panic attacks since I was 8 years old, but been keeping it inside and getting angry at myself if I can´t beat it myself.
You know the feeling when your brain feels fine, positive atmosphere, things start to get better, and you body goes "Hell nah, time for some adrenaline for no reason!"
It has gotten way way better, from self-harm, chest pain, shakes and almost passing out to now just getting nervous for no reason.

I feel I can beat it without meds or psychologist at this stage, the anxiety and stress part, but the BP worries me since even if my head gets better, maybe my body
won´t before it´s too late.
No idea what the best approach is there, taking BP meds and see if I can jump off them at a later stage, or go full natural remedies.

Checking BP randomly it never gets lower than 139/72 (if I don´t use something to bring it down a little), but it can easily jump to 190+/90+ with some alcohol in me.
Gym seems to land it on around 160-170/80+.
Have never had it over 200/100 as far as I know.

Checked it now after sitting at the desk the entire day doing nothing - 145/82 Pulse 63

[wango]

I do appreciate it all of you! I haven´t taken the meds yet since I value the advice I get here and these suggestions and speculations that you all have are in the lines of what my friends says as well
who know me.
- My mom has had high BP a long long time. She doesn´t exercise, eat bad and is extremely stressed, but listens to no one. She has meds, but rarely takes them.
She has already had a "pre-heartattack".
- Dad has high BP but do eat the meds, two of them, but have no contact with him so can´t ask. He recently had testicular cancer as well, but beat it.
- Two of my sisters has one issue each. One has too low BP and pulse (can´t remember the name). And the other has a similar occurance so when she exercise her hands and fingers swell up.

My family history is full of inherited issues that might hit me when I am older. So far I am the only one in the entire family that doesn´t have anything....Yet at least.

However, I have been living with anxiety and panic attacks since I was 8 years old, but been keeping it inside and getting angry at myself if I can´t beat it myself.
You know the feeling when your brain feels fine, positive atmosphere, things start to get better, and you body goes "Hell nah, time for some adrenaline for no reason!"
It has gotten way way better, from self-harm, chest pain, shakes and almost passing out to now just getting nervous for no reason.

I feel I can beat it without meds or psychologist at this stage, the anxiety and stress part, but the BP worries me since even if my head gets better, maybe my body
won´t before it´s too late.
No idea what the best approach is there, taking BP meds and see if I can jump off them at a later stage, or go full natural remedies.

Checking BP randomly it never gets lower than 139/72 (if I don´t use something to bring it down a little), but it can easily jump to 190+/90+ with some alcohol in me.
Gym seems to land it on around 160-170/80+.
Have never had it over 200/100 as far as I know.(

Checked it now after sitting at the desk the entire day doing nothing - 145/82 Pulse 63

Well, your mother does have cardio concerns (explain pre-heart attack please, are you talking angina pectorals) & I’m guessing she’s younger than me. Just get your resting BP down ASAP, 145/82 is not good at your age. Dude if you were 200/100 you should have been in the hospital. BTW, how are your lipids (LDLs vs. HDLs)? Sorry, I take this stuff seriously. If I’m being a PITA just say, ok?

[Fiskevatten]

Well, your mother does have cardio concerns (explain pre-heart attack please, are you talking angina pectorals) & I’m guessing she’s younger than me. Just get your resting BP down ASAP, 145/82 is not good at your age. Dude if you were 200/100 you should have been in the hospital. BTW, how are your lipids (LDLs vs. HDLs)? Sorry, I take this stuff seriously. If I’m being a PITA just say, ok?

Will test it Samson, Thanks man! Fingers crossed! Niacin and Cialis didn´t work, sex does though it seems, just gotta find a chick with no life but huge hunger lol

Wango - In Sweden it´s called a "TIA", and from Google I understand it stands for transient ischemic attack. She also have extreme sleep apnea but don´t use the machine.
So at certain points during the night she doesn´t breath at all.
In other words, which is extremely horrible to say, she is killing herself.
She is born 63.

All values according to blood, urine and heart tests seem to be normal, even the hormonal profile seems to be great at the moment.
I am on Test E currently, but my tests before and now during seems to be more or less the same except the boost in certain hormones.
Current Lipids:
- Cholesterol 120 (ref <200)
- Triglyceride 60 (ref <150)
- HDL 42 (ref >40)
- LDL 66 (ref <130)

I do appreciate the seriousness, otherwise I wouldn´t go by myself to check it without being called. Since the BP damages other organs as well, and being healthy is my life more or less.
I am currently gaining a lot of weight faster than expected, since I started Test E, HCG (took 3rd shot Saturday) I was at around 90kgs, and at hospital I weight 95.2 kgs.
I did one E2 check and it seems to be in "ok" range, but I gotta be putting on immense water weight currently even with the Aromasin.
I don´t look puffy at all, just pumped.
But gotta keep an eye on that since that will most certainly boost my BP up as well.

[wango]

Will test it Samson, Thanks man! Fingers crossed! Niacin and Cialis didn´t work, sex does though it seems, just gotta find a chick with no life but huge hunger lol

Wango - In Sweden it´s called a "TIA", and from Google I understand it stands for transient ischemic attack. She also have extreme sleep apnea but don´t use the machine.
So at certain points during the night she doesn´t breath at all.
In other words, which is extremely horrible to say, she is killing herself.
She is born 63.

All values according to blood, urine and heart tests seem to be normal, even the hormonal profile seems to be great at the moment.
I am on Test E currently, but my tests before and now during seems to be more or less the same except the boost in certain hormones.
Current Lipids:
- Cholesterol 120 (ref <200)
- Triglyceride 60 (ref <150)
- HDL 42 (ref >40)
- LDL 66 (ref <130)

I do appreciate the seriousness, otherwise I wouldn´t go by myself to check it without being called. Since the BP damages other organs as well, and being healthy is my life more or less.
I am currently gaining a lot of weight faster than expected, since I started Test E, HCG (took 3rd shot Saturday) I was at around 90kgs, and at hospital I weight 95.2 kgs.
I did one E2 check and it seems to be in "ok" range, but I gotta be putting on immense water weight currently even with the Aromasin.
I don´t look puffy at all, just pumped.
But gotta keep an eye on that since that will most certainly boost my BP up as well.

TIA is a “mini-stroke”. If born in 63 she’s 6 years younger than me & way too young for that. And, if she has BP issues like yourself, well you just connected some serious dots right there. The lipids are good, which means it’s likely your plaque development isn’t on pace with your high BP. Yup, you add water, your blood volume is higher & you are working the left ventricle more. You add body weight & you work the left ventricle even harder. Then you vasoconstrict your peripheral arteries with stress & stimulants forcing your left ventricle to pump blood through miles of narrower arteries? And you are only 30? Take this as a deadly serious issue please.

[wango]

Samson is right, anxiety can raise BP even if on meds.

If you're naturally a more tense person, it can be hard to self-diagnose how you're feeling. I look at it like driving fast. I'm always driving fast, no matter where I go. On the highway if the speed limit is 65, I'm doing 90+. I look at people on the highway and think "how the hell do you drive so slow???" That's my normal cruising speed. I think it's the same with how we feel. When we're just naturally wired a little more tense and agitated, it feels normal to us. You may think you feel fine but compared to other people, you're probably more agitated.

So you were the a-hole on my tail in the fast lane? I’m thinking, dude I’m going 85, wtf is your problem.