Cycle design with Sust, Deca, EQ, Dbol

[wutangkillabees]

I bought a pre-designed cycle a while back that I never ended up using. I'd like to use it now but I don't remember what the dosages were. I have the following:

Description-Qty-UOM-Qty-Per-Total MG
Sust-270- mg/mlc-7-10ml-18900
Deca-100- mg/mlc-2-10ml-2000
EQ-200- mg/mlc-5-10ml-10000
Dbol-10-mg-200-tablets-2000
Exemestane-25-mg-40-tablets-1000


What would a weekly dosage look like for what I have? Not sure if I'm missing/misplaced some deca. What would you add remove to this? I don't necessarily have to use all the sust either obviously. TIA

[Mr. Small]

People will probably advise against these crazy blends dude, they're a bit messy

[JaneDoe]

Week 1 -week 12....(week1 -week4 kick-start dianabol)
30mg per day
10 mg of dianabol in the morning.
20mg of dianabol before training
12.5mg of aromasin exemestane from the third week of the cycle every day.

It's good to have the AI because you're going to bloat in this cycle, which can make BP worse if you're sensitive

I would also choose to use use 250 iu of hcg 2x a week to keep your LH endogenous while on cycle..


Week1-week 12
750 mg Sust per week
400 EQ per week
300mg deca per week

[JaneDoe]

What are your experiences with steroid cycles? I suppose this is not your first cycle right?

[JaneDoe]

I don't see the need for a stack of steroids like this, but if you want to try anyway you can do something similar to what I posted above.

[JaneDoe]

The more steroids you use in a cycle the more negative sides you can have!

Imo

[JaneDoe]

A note: many guys use dianabol from beginning to end of their cycles, so they don't lose strength and potency, but it's taken in low doses... I don't recommend this procedure, it varies from person to person! Don't forget to include Nac and Tudca in your cycle to cleanse your liver as dianabol is hepatotoxic

[wutangkillabees]

Thanks. Isn't EQ supposed to be run on a longer schedule like 16-20 weeks though?

[wutangkillabees]

Are you talking about the sust or stacking different compounds?

[wutangkillabees]

Yeah, I only planned on taking that during weeks 1-7 to kickstart the cycle based on what I read.

[wutangkillabees]

The more steroids you use in a cycle the more negative sides you can have!

Imo

Agree. I did two orals before (dbol) and didn't really have sides except for slightly higher BP towards the end.

[almostgone]

If your only cycle experience is 2 oral (d'bol) cycles in the past, I would set the EQ and Deca to the side for now.

You have plenty of Sustanon on hand and prior experience with d'bol so that would be my thoughts. You don't really have enough Deca on hand unless you just felt you had to run it for a little joint support.

Just my 2cc on the subject.

[JaneDoe]

Thanks. Isn't EQ supposed to be run on a longer schedule like 16-20 weeks though?

It is not necessary to use the EQ for 16 weeks, 12 weeks is enough..

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If you want you can extend it to 16 weeks without any problems, it will be even better in this case (Deca and EQ have longer half-life so you will get good use out of these AAS

[JaneDoe]

Are you talking about the sust or stacking different compounds?

Yes bro!

I'm talking about stacking the above compounds Sust , Deca , EQ and diana!

[JaneDoe]

Agree. I did two orals before (dbol) and didn't really have sides except for slightly higher BP towards the end.

Did you do dianabol + testo ??

Or just dianabol?

[wutangkillabees]

Did you do dianabol + testo ??

Or just dianabol?

Just dbol.

[wutangkillabees]

Yes bro!

I'm talking about stacking the above compounds Sust , Deca , EQ and diana!

Gotcha. Sorry, I should've quoted Mr. Small on this post. Wasn't sure if he was referring to Sust specifically vs. various test esters.

Yeah, but EQ seems to lower sides from what I've read and deca+test+dbol seems to be fairly common bulking stack with lower sides as well if used correctly. Main reason I want to add EQ is the additional appetite and the vascularity. I also take 35mg Adderall daily for ADHD which seriously suppresses my appetite and makes it difficult to get all my macros. I was at 405 on my deadlifts and squats at around 8-10 reps on my 3rd set so I was advanced/elite (90-96 percentile) on major lifts but I was stuck around 195lbs at 5'11. As I'm typing this out, I'm pretty sure I bought this stack because I hit a plateau a few years back and my knees were a bit sore.

Long story short, I think it's still a good stack for me now to put on some solid muscle and the deca will keep my joints lubed. Not trying to hit the gym without anything to show for it anymore.

I'll probably get some more deca and do a 16 week cycle with the dosages you recommended - maybe even something a bit lower.

My current stats: 36yo, 205lbs, 5'11, ~14-15%BF, 401 total test, 10.5 free test.

[Carlanul]

I am at the end of a simillar cycle but I used it like this :

400 deca
750 sust
30mg Dbol - 4 weeks only
50mg winstrol - last 4 weeks of the cycle
Entire cycle was 16 weeks.

I gained 23kg in this cycle with a moderate surplus over maintenance. I am an endomorph so ye I did put some fat , and yes theres a ton of water aswell.. But still in all that weight gained theres some nice lean mass for sure. Will see after PCT and after I lose the water. But the cycle went smooth , I used HCG mid cycle aswell , some Cardarine and I was on CJC 1295 + Mk677 wich I will continue on PCT aswell. Bloodwork was nice all the way ...Little sides - did have some excess water retention wich increased blood pressure and had some edema when I was in the last week of dbol and deca started working etc. But I managed to easy counter it with less sodium intake and more potassium from foods and also reduce my carbs a little + some added cardio..and the body got back on track in 1 week SO I migh be on the lucky side of things - my estrogen was high af but no gyno symtoms ..I used examestane later on - I am on week 14 atm and all is good - gains are huge and strength is high af aswell. I worked this cycle with a good personal trainer and a nice therapist so I don't get screwed by hurting myself in ego lifting or shit like that. I didn't use EQ ...a lot of people recommended it over DECA ...but I had great results with DECA and I had no big sides - maybe I am lucky but yeh.

[JaneDoe]

You're wanting to take a huge stack of steroids without even having experience with exogenous testosterone! To me that's a bad idea, this cycle, it's not a smooth cycle like you're saying.

It's a cycle for advanced guys,

Relative to boldenone, it increases HCT much faster than other steroids,

Boldenone is not a steroid that will help you with the high e2 sides, while it has some long term anti-estrogen fighting characteristics, it is not directly protective.



Remember that this cycle is more complicated than you might think,

you should not only be concerned about the aromatization of the testosterone..but also with Deca 19-nor which increases progesterone and prolactine (it is a progestin steroid)

Know that a little masteron 400mg+ can do the job of dealing with prolactin blockage.

Masteron is the only steroid that is a prolactin blocker, so when touching steroids with a progestin nature you should include it if you are prolactin sensitive.


Well cabergoline, prami, bromine etc were discarded in time.

Trust me, your cycle is heavy, you can have several downsides to a first contact with so many steroids!


A guru of this forum once said in his article:

Testosterone is the foundation for future cycles, if you haven't even taken testosterone, why go on a crazy steroid stack like this?


No, it's not the amount of steroids you're going to take that's going to make you big.

It's your diet! Diet, Diet, food is 95% of your results.


You can build an amazing physique with just exogenous testosterone and food nutrition.

I'm not teaching you, just my opinion, don't get me wrong...

Any questions all of us on the forum are here to help each other.


~

DAVI

[wutangkillabees]

I am at the end of a simillar cycle but I used it like this :

400 deca
750 sust
30mg Dbol - 4 weeks only
50mg winstrol - last 4 weeks of the cycle
Entire cycle was 16 weeks.

I gained 23kg in this cycle with a moderate surplus over maintenance. I am an endomorph so ye I did put some fat , and yes theres a ton of water aswell.. But still in all that weight gained theres some nice lean mass for sure. Will see after PCT and after I lose the water. But the cycle went smooth , I used HCG mid cycle aswell , some Cardarine and I was on CJC 1295 + Mk677 wich I will continue on PCT aswell. Bloodwork was nice all the way ...Little sides - did have some excess water retention wich increased blood pressure and had some edema when I was in the last week of dbol and deca started working etc. But I managed to easy counter it with less sodium intake and more potassium from foods and also reduce my carbs a little + some added cardio..and the body got back on track in 1 week SO I migh be on the lucky side of things - my estrogen was high af but no gyno symtoms ..I used examestane later on - I am on week 14 atm and all is good - gains are huge and strength is high af aswell. I worked this cycle with a good personal trainer and a nice therapist so I don't get screwed by hurting myself in ego lifting or shit like that. I didn't use EQ ...a lot of people recommended it over DECA ...but I had great results with DECA and I had no big sides - maybe I am lucky but yeh.

23 kg over 16 weeks?! That's nuts. That sounds like beginner gains or a lot of water weight. How many cycles have you done? That has to be stressful on your joints too.

[JaneDoe]

Bump!