Low dose Test E and Tren E cycle question

[Erwin55]

Title says most of it. Looking for input from people who have used Tren Enanthate with low doses of test. Not looking for the canned responses but for actual gains/sides from people who have gone before. This is not my first time with tren. 5-6 tren A cycles under my belt but that was years ago (15) all were at 75mg ED pinning combined with TP at 100mg ED. Sides were tolerable then. I am 45 now and have been running 200mg test e EW for trt and am considering running some tren E alongside while leaving the test at current dosage. Was thinking Tren E at 400mg per week. Pretty much just trying to lean out some more for summer with modest muscle growth, nothing crazy. I had 21 inch arms back in the day and honestly have no desire to go back to that size again. Currently at 18.5 inches cold. With my past experiences with tren would this be to low? Thanks for reading.

[Scott84067r]

I have used low doses of Test E while using Tren E. I heard Jay Cutler talking about how he doesn't like to run supra high testosterone and since I have been dealing with BPH even before trying my first cycle, I always try to stay at less than 400 mg Test E per week. Anything more and I feel like I'm sitting on a marble.

Anyway, I had good results. I know that there are going to be people saying that I am doing it wrong, or whatever, but the last time I ran these two together, I achieved the best results I have ever had.

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[Erwin55]

Thanks for your input. I know it says I have one post but that's because when I got out of the game years ago I also seemed to loose my old account here since the email account it was attached to is long since gone. Anyway, back then people used to always parrot about how wrong you were for running tren only and you had to have test. Well I've run tren only and had very good results. I appreciate hearing from people who have done, not people who have read. What doses were you running the tren at?

[Cuz]

Tren e at 400 mg a week isnt too low, actually thats a pretty healthy dose imo

[Erwin55]

Thoughts were that since my past tren cycles have been at 525mg and I've run about 6 if memory serves if I'm just wasting gear. But then we have the fact its been years since I've touched gear other than the 200mg a week test which just started first of March. In the end we are each different and there is only one way to tell I guess...

[s1nc1ty]

I think @ 400 tren e a week the muscle growth should be more then modest. one of the strongest steroids and thats a pretty good dosage. If you want modest you can try stanozolol or something

[Erwin55]

I have var and drol for future runs. My days of running cycles that incorporate more than 2 grams a week are long behind me. Have you run tren A cycles similar to my doses and then switched to a lower dose of tren E and seen gains? If so how did the lower dose of tren E work for you? Thanks.

[s1nc1ty]

just some math : tren has anabolic rating of 500. that means 400 tren should give about same muscle gains as 2 grams of testosterone. that seems pretty decent to me.

I must say that I have not ran tren myself yet so take everything what i say with a grain of salt.

That shit should be strong enough I was thinking myself on starting @ 200mg a week. I can always raise the dose

[Erwin55]

Good to know, thanks again. I know I look like I'm new to this with a recent join date and single digit posts but I do know this game. I cut my teeth on making my own tren from pellets back in the day. I always brew my own from raw powders so I ensure sterility and quality of product. I just couldn't find specific answers by searching the web so I thought I'd ask here to see if anyone has had a similar experience.

[< <Samson> >]

Did I miss how long you wanna run tren e for?

Shit, I’m not even 45 & I think my tren days are behind me

Me personally, fire tren e - I’d run at like 150mg a week or so for 4+ months


But, we’re all different I suppose


Not that threads like this don’t make me feel itchy to jump on the tren train again

But, rn just a little Var, test & deca seem to b plenty

[Erwin55]

Did I miss how long you wanna run tren e for?

Shit, I’m not even 45 & I think my tren days are behind me

Me personally, fire tren e - I’d run at like 150mg a week or so for 4+ months


But, we’re all different I suppose


Not that threads like this don’t make me feel itchy to jump on the tren train again

But, rn just a little Var, test & deca seem to b plenty

12 weeks for a trial. Trust me, if I thought I would be happy with what I saw at 300mg a week I'd stick there. I just don't want to waste the gear by going to low of a dose to see any strength gains.

[s1nc1ty]

12 weeks for a trial. Trust me, if I thought I would be happy with what I saw at 300mg a week I'd stick there. I just don't want to waste the gear by going to low of a dose to see any strength gains.

Is the gear that expensive?

As I sayd before im not an expert on this topic but from reading what your goals are seems to be you would be better off starting lower then higher. Why start 400 if you maybe would be happy with what your getting at 300 or even 200 ? + the side effects will be less also. Who cares about wasting.. tren doesnt cost shit ( atleast where im buying it ). If you want modest muscle gain i think 200 even maybe would be enough. Like Samson wrote hes happy with what he is getting at 150.

Not sure but if your last cycle of tren was 15 years ago i think your body has quite forgotten about it for now... I atleast wouldnt be scared that your body has some resistance to it because of cycles that long ago.

[Erwin55]

Is the gear that expensive?

As I sayd before im not an expert on this topic but from reading what your goals are seems to be you would be better off starting lower then higher. Why start 400 if you maybe would be happy with what your getting at 300 or even 200 ? + the side effects will be less also. Who cares about wasting.. tren doesnt cost shit ( atleast where im buying it ). If you want modest muscle gain i think 200 even maybe would be enough. Like Samson wrote hes happy with what he is getting at 150.

Not sure but if your last cycle of tren was 15 years ago i think your body has quite forgotten about it for now... I atleast wouldnt be scared that your body has some resistance to it because of cycles that long ago.

I don't want to waste it as in take 300mg when I should have went 400mg because my body didn't respond at 300mg. I'll run 400/200 tren/test and report back to this thread when it's over.

[s1nc1ty]

I don't want to waste it as in take 300mg when I should have went 400mg because my body didn't respond at 300mg. I'll run 400/200 tren/test and report back to this thread when it's over.

Good luck! Yeah let us know how it goes.. Im planning similar cycle next so would be interesting to know

[Erwin55]

Quick update. Been running 400mg tren e and 250mg test e for 5 weeks now. Vascularity is increasing trimming out nicely while maintaining my weight at around 225-230lbs depending on the day. Strength is starting to come up some but 2asnt really looking for a huge bump there since my workouts are more tailored for a higher rep range than for strength. Aggression is more than manageable compared to when I ran tren a at 75mg ED. Also not seeing any sign of being winded as I'm still able to do cardio before workouts.

[ToTheBuckeT21]

I’m a hardgainer who started TRT about 10 weeks ago 200mg test cyp every week. At first the gains weren’t much to write home about, but I’m also only doing light workouts 2x a week and not really changing my diet much. Wasn’t till I introduced mk677 that really upped my appetite that I started seeing very fast gains. Overall I’m extremely happy with the progress and will prob add a 3rd workout day in the mix. This coming from someone who years ago did 500mg test, 400mg Eq, var and dbol… I’m sure you’d be happy with your results from the low dose cycle.

[redz]

Low test is the best with higher tren or Deca. I don’t even use ai’s anymore even with 900 Deca and 250mg test e. Low test solved virtually all issues for me. I do the same with tren I recently completed 350mg tren e, 200mg tren ace, 400mg mast e with 250mg test e and it was great. Low test was the evolution of my cycles. 6’2 270lbs 12% currently.

[Ol_Wolf]

Shit, I’m not even 45 & I think my tren days are behind me

Me personally, fire tren e - I’d run at like 150mg a week or so for 4+ months


But, we’re all different I suppose

This is what I was looking at doing for my first 12 week blast and cruise with TRT. I am hoping at the lower doses I don't see the aggression and other issues that are talked about heavily with Tren. My only concern is going this low and trying to be conservative will I actually notice a difference with the tren over just standard TRT?

[< <Samson> >]

This is what I was looking at doing for my first 12 week blast and cruise with TRT. I am hoping at the lower doses I don't see the aggression and other issues that are talked about heavily with Tren. My only concern is going this low and trying to be conservative will I actually notice a difference with the tren over just standard TRT?

Will you notice a difference?! Does a bear shit in the woods? Lmao


If it’s fire tren, nothing can match it - and, thanks a lot for putting that back in my head

When I ran my guy’s ace last year for just a month or so(maybe, I made it to two) - it was only 120mg a week & felt like I could tear a door off with my hands - then the sides came

Quality of gear really makes a huge dif

The stuff I was running knocked me on my ass with a death cough at only 30mg per spike

I have the last few pre loaded spikes to a friend, he’s like wtf - u tryin to kill me, or what

Within the short time on it, I was more ripped than now & I ate like shit


Soooooo

Yeah, it works

[Cuz]

Will you notice a difference?! Does a bear shit in the woods? Lmao


If it’s fire tren, nothing can match it - and, thanks a lot for putting that back in my head

When I ran my guy’s ace last year for just a month or so(maybe, I made it to two) - it was only 120mg a week & felt like I could tear a door off with my hands - then the sides came

Quality of gear really makes a huge dif

The stuff I was running knocked me on my ass with a death cough at only 30mg per spike

I have the last few pre loaded spikes to a friend, he’s like wtf - u tryin to kill me, or what

Within the short time on it, I was more ripped than now & I ate like shit


Soooooo

Yeah, it works

Yeah, nothing compares even remotely close to tren for me. Tren is king. Tren is GOD. Like since ive dropped my puny 175 mg/wk tren dose i have increased test and shot some primo. Might as well be shooting water. Fuckin sucks coming off tren ace

[Chicagotarsier]

I won't spend time talking about the positives of Tren. Here is my 2 cents.

Start super small. Sides do not creep on you linearly with Tren. Go with a dose as low as 10 a week for your first cycle. It will make a difference even at that dose level. For me 10 a week was equiv to 800ish test a week. Some may say that ain't shit and weaksauce. For me 25 a week is around 2-3 grams of test like results and more than I could eat/sleep for. The other guys in my lifting group were amazed at my results on such a small dose. They were shooting 150 a week and getting way less results. I let the guys try my brew (which is 100 percent spot on dose) and they started to see the same results as I had.

So I said all the normal stuff. Beware underdosed medication. Start small and find your dose. Don't let bro science get you into a bad situation when steroids are not the same to all people.

[redz]

I won't spend time talking about the positives of Tren. Here is my 2 cents.

Start super small. Sides do not creep on you linearly with Tren. Go with a dose as low as 10 a week for your first cycle. It will make a difference even at that dose level. For me 10 a week was equiv to 800ish test a week. Some may say that ain't shit and weaksauce. For me 25 a week is around 2-3 grams of test like results and more than I could eat/sleep for. The other guys in my lifting group were amazed at my results on such a small dose. They were shooting 150 a week and getting way less results. I let the guys try my brew (which is 100 percent spot on dose) and they started to see the same results as I had.

So I said all the normal stuff. Beware underdosed medication. Start small and find your dose. Don't let bro science get you into a bad situation when steroids are not the same to all people.

Sorry but 10-25mg ain’t getting it done in a man. Even 100 is low though 100 is something. Your math converting tren to test dose comparisons is laughable. Tren is a different animal but you aren’t getting 800mg test effect off of 10mg tren. How did you even come up with this garbage?

[Erwin55]

Sorry but 10-25mg ain’t getting it done in a man. Even 100 is low though 100 is something. Your math converting tren to test dose comparisons is laughable. Tren is a different animal but you aren’t getting 800mg test effect off of 10mg tren. How did you even come up with this garbage?

My bad, tried to start this thread for opinions on those that had done doses similar to what I was proposing and then transition it into my own experiences with my doses. I understand that everyone is different and everyone responds differently to specific compounds but I'm with Redz, how is starting tren, which I'm assuming you mean tren Ace, at 10mg a day (also assuming) even getting your toes wet?
Anywho, staying at my dosage and loving it so far.

[Cuz]

Sorry but 10-25mg ain’t getting it done in a man. Even 100 is low though 100 is something. Your math converting tren to test dose comparisons is laughable. Tren is a different animal but you aren’t getting 800mg test effect off of 10mg tren. How did you even come up with this garbage?

Was curious myself. Im a low dose tren advocate but i dont go any less than 50 mg eod