Quote Originally Posted by songdog View Post
I agree 100% he should not be using aas!And if it sounded rude so be it.We are here to advise people the best and safest way we can.So if your feelings get hurt grow up.
Just playing devils advocate here so humor me…

I don’t disagree with the message and yes, 20% BF is too high for starting especially if you’re already running cycles. OP may be off on his % or run into some issues where he put weight back on.

At the end of the day, we want people who are going to come here, feel safe, contribute and stick around. It’s how we rebuild this community and strengthen our numbers. I agree on thick skin, but sometimes when we’re too blunt in our honesty, people just shut down and tune out.

I think as vets of the community we find a way to articulate the point but in a way where the message is received but where we don’t cause the person to shut down. Not saying we need to sugar coat shit, but there’s got to be a balance, right?

At the end of the day, I want this place to bring the same value that I found when I first came here looking for answers and how the vets were able to help me out. Some dudes were dicks, but there were some solid folks that helped me at a time when I really needed it. I won’t go full on pansy today
But come on fellas, let’s get this place back as the place to be to come for solid information and a brotherhood.

Sorry for the kumbya shit, but hopefully it resonates…

OP, the more information you can provide, the better and he accountable and open to constructive criticism