My first 300mg cycle

[kelkel]

Agree and disagree with a lot of the posts above:

Knowledge and logic has changed over the years. First cycles do not necessarily have to be test only.
I would not implement an AI unless it is actually needed. Why start another drug when it may not be necessary.
HCG is a must imho. Like a trickle charger for your boys.
Length of shutdown is irrelevant. Your HPTA doesn't have a calendar where after 12-14 weeks you can't restart, etc.
It would be much safer to run a lower dose of test, 3-400 max where you don't need ancillaries and add in mast or primo (ramping up) to drive your androgens up without E2 or DHT issues.

Just my opinion. Best of luck.
Get blood work first to know your baselines. Seriously important. The First Cycle sticky lists them.

[Test Monsterone]

Agree and disagree with a lot of the posts above:

Knowledge and logic has changed over the years. First cycles do not necessarily have to be test only.
I would not implement an AI unless it is actually needed. Why start another drug when it may not be necessary.
HCG is a must imho. Like a trickle charger for your boys.
Length of shutdown is irrelevant. Your HPTA doesn't have a calendar where after 12-14 weeks you can't restart, etc.
It would be much safer to run a lower dose of test, 3-400 max where you don't need ancillaries and add in mast or primo (ramping up) to drive your androgens up without E2 or DHT issues.

Just my opinion. Best of luck.
Get blood work first to know your baselines. Seriously important. The First Cycle sticky lists them.

Kelkel, I respect your opinion - but you really don't think it matters how long a person is shut down for their recovery? From my understanding, that is the crux of the problem. The longer one is shut down, the harder it is to regain function. That is the purpose of HCG - to prevent shutdown.

[kelkel]

Kelkel, I respect your opinion - but you really don't think it matters how long a person is shut down for their recovery? From my understanding, that is the crux of the problem. The longer one is shut down, the harder it is to regain function. That is the purpose of HCG - to prevent shutdown.

I've yet to read anything on length of shut down as a determining factor, other than conjecture. I do understand how it makes sense on the surface. Even the person I consider the best knowledge based educator in the business right now dismissed that notion.

I appreciate how you started your response brother, but it's not necessary. We all know each other here.

[teedoff]

I've yet to read anything on length of shut down as a determining factor, other than conjecture. I do understand how it makes sense on the surface. Even the person I consider the best knowledge based educator in the business right now dismissed that notion.

I appreciate how you started your response brother, but it's not necessary. We all know each other here.

I'd like to research this a bit more myself. Any links I can start with? Who is the person you mention? Thanks

[kelkel]

I'd like to research this a bit more myself. Any links I can start with? Who is the person you mention? Thanks

PM'd you.