High estrogen levels

[ZorkLift]

I am using 2mg of arimidex and 40mg of nolva every day and my gyno continues to get worse. Both have been tested to be legit so any ideas as to what may cause this?

Running
400 test e
200 tren e
200 eq

[Cuz]

I am using 2mg of arimidex and 40mg of nolva every day and my gyno continues to get worse. Both have been tested to be legit so any ideas as to what may cause this?

Running
400 test e
200 tren e
200 eq

I dont know how anyone could use 2mg of adex everyday. Troll?

[ZorkLift]

I dont know how anyone could use 2mg of adex everyday. Troll?

Not trolling just genuinely looking for answers because I’m struggling with keeping my gyno down

[Cuz]

Not trolling just genuinely looking for answers because I’m struggling with keeping my gyno down

We’ll by all means STOP. And I mean stop everything.
This is your first post, give us some info about this. Age cycle history and so on please

[ZorkLift]

29 years old
One to two cycles a year for the past 8 years

First ever cycle I did I didn’t do my research and didn’t take any AI’s and developed pretty bad gyno starting with sensitivity and gradually growing into lumps. I stopped at 7 weeks, did my research and started nolva and aromasin as soon as I could. It seemed to resolve the issue until I started my next cycle and it has been an issue with every cycle since even with the recommended or higher dose of either arimidex or nolva during and after my cycle. I usually have to stop around week 8 to try and prevent any permanent visible gyno. I know I should be getting my blood tested to see what is really going on but I was hoping somebody either had a similar experience with AI’s not working the way they should or had any information as to why that might be.

[Cylon357]

29 years old
One to two cycles a year for the past 8 years

First ever cycle I did I didn’t do my research and didn’t take any AI’s and developed pretty bad gyno starting with sensitivity and gradually growing into lumps. I stopped at 7 weeks, did my research and started nolva and aromasin as soon as I could. It seemed to resolve the issue until I started my next cycle and it has been an issue with every cycle since even with the recommended or higher dose of either arimidex or nolva during and after my cycle. I usually have to stop around week 8 to try and prevent any permanent visible gyno. I know I should be getting my blood tested to see what is really going on but I was hoping somebody either had a similar experience with AI’s not working the way they should or had any information as to why that might be.

Drop at least eq and tren.

Start nolvadex, p5p and Vitamin E. The last two are in case you have prolactin issues.

Get blood work. Include estradiol sensitive, prolactin and testosterone.

Drop that 2mg of adex. That is twice what is administered for breast cancer.

Get your hands on, but do not start taking, masteron and caber.

Depending on your blood work, you may do some other things. Post it up when it gets back.

Also, start your own thread in the AAS section. You will get more responses there.

[Cuz]

29 years old
One to two cycles a year for the past 8 years

First ever cycle I did I didn’t do my research and didn’t take any AI’s and developed pretty bad gyno starting with sensitivity and gradually growing into lumps. I stopped at 7 weeks, did my research and started nolva and aromasin as soon as I could. It seemed to resolve the issue until I started my next cycle and it has been an issue with every cycle since even with the recommended or higher dose of either arimidex or nolva during and after my cycle. I usually have to stop around week 8 to try and prevent any permanent visible gyno. I know I should be getting my blood tested to see what is really going on but I was hoping somebody either had a similar experience with AI’s not working the way they should or had any information as to why that might be.

Looks like you just answered your own question there bud. Bloodwork! Im at a loss as to why this has been happening for 8 years each cycle and you know what to do, get bloodwork, but you don’t. So you take massive amounts of cancer treatment drugs in hopes it fixes the problem. I can’t help you man, I hope someone else can chime in

[ZorkLift]

Got my blood work back. Estrogen is sitting at 660 even with 2mg of arimidex daily. Arimidex is tested and is real. Not sure why my estrogen levels won’t go down. Any suggestions would be appreciated

[ZorkLift]

Arimidex not lowering estrogen.
29m
5Â’8
190lbs
Per week doses-
400 test e
200 tren e
200 EQ
Estrogen sitting at 660 even with 2mg of arimidex daily
Arimidex is tested and is real
Any info or suggestions on possible causes would be appreciated

Well the levels of everything else are in appropriate ranges itÂ’s just my estrogen that I canÂ’t seem to control. IÂ’d rather not stop taking my one cycle a year if there are alternatives. IÂ’m wondering if femara is a better bet to get it under control since arimidex and nolva donÂ’t seem to work. Even clomid maybe?

[Cuz]

Arimidex not lowering estrogen.
29m
5’8
190lbs
Per week doses-
400 test e
200 tren e
200 EQ
Estrogen sitting at 660 even with 2mg of arimidex daily
Arimidex is tested and is real
Any info or suggestions on possible causes would be appreciated

Id suggest ABORT cycling

[Honkey_Kong]

Arimidex not lowering estrogen.
29m
5’8
190lbs
Per week doses-
400 test e
200 tren e
200 EQ
Estrogen sitting at 660 even with 2mg of arimidex daily
Arimidex is tested and is real
Any info or suggestions on possible causes would be appreciated

Are you growing boobs?

[Cylon357]

Arimidex not lowering estrogen.
29m
5’8
190lbs
Per week doses-
400 test e
200 tren e
200 EQ
Estrogen sitting at 660 even with 2mg of arimidex daily
Arimidex is tested and is real
Any info or suggestions on possible causes would be appreciated

I'm calling troll or BS. 2mg of adex is clinical abuse of the drug. It is dosed at 1mg per day for breast cancer. If you are legit taking 2mg per day (which I doubt), you are heading for serious problems.

Id suggest ABORT cycling

To add on to Cuz's most excellent suggestion, and on the off chance you are legit, I would suggest you start your own thread, not hijack someone else's.

[Cylon357]

Got my blood work back. Estrogen is sitting at 660 even with 2mg of arimidex daily. Arimidex is tested and is real. Not sure why my estrogen levels won’t go down. Any suggestions would be appreciated

I said this elsewhere, but if you are legit, start your own thread.

[ZorkLift]

I can’t figure out how to start a thread

[almostgone]

Think I've got the posts moved into his new thread.

[Euroholic]

Your Arimidex is not real or contains bugger all anastrozole. 2mg a day is super high dose for only 400mg test. Get some letrozole to tank your oestrogen then grt some armosion.

After 8 years of getting gyno just get the surgery and be done with it.

[Euroholic]

My body is a high convertor to oestrogen but good lord not 2mg a day. I need 2mg a week for a high HRT dose of 250mg a week.

[Cylon357]

Drop at least eq and tren.

Start nolvadex, p5p and Vitamin E. The last two are in case you have prolactin issues.

Get blood work. Include estradiol sensitive, prolactin and testosterone.

Drop that 2mg of adex. That is twice what is administered for breast cancer.

Get your hands on, but do not start taking, masteron and caber.

Depending on your blood work, you may do some other things. Post it up when it gets back.

Also, start your own thread in the AAS section. You will get more responses there.

Also, all of this from a month ago. You can't find responses because you keep posting all over the place. Look at the link AG sent about how to create your own thread.

Do not create a new thread now, though. AG has graciously taken care of that for you.

This is where you say "thank you, AG"

[Cuz]

Couldnt imagine 2mg of adex every day. .75 per week crashes mine, and I convert ALOT OF E2

[Cylon357]

Couldnt imagine 2mg of adex every day. .75 per week crashes mine, and I convert ALOT OF E2

Seriously! That really is 2x the dose for fighting breast cancer. Somewhere, an oncologist is sh!tting their pants at the idea of 2mg per day.

I'm guessing way underdosed if this is even a real question

[Honkey_Kong]

Seriously! That really is 2x the dose for fighting breast cancer. Somewhere, an oncologist is sh!tting their pants at the idea of 2mg per day.

I'm guessing way underdosed if this is even a real question

Yeah the dude was trolling. The joint pain you get from that high of a dose. On the bright side of Adex, it's pretty hard to give yourself a lethal overdose of it. I read that in a clinical study, healthy men were give 60mg in one dose.

https://www.medsafe.govt.nz/profs/da...rimidextab.pdf

[tbjake34]

Maybe you have ovaries?

[Cylon357]

Yeah the dude was trolling. The joint pain you get from that high of a dose. On the bright side of Adex, it's pretty hard to give yourself a lethal overdose of it. I read that in a clinical study, healthy men were give 60mg in one dose.

https://www.medsafe.govt.nz/profs/da...rimidextab.pdf

Good gravy, I can't imagine what 60mg would be like, even once. Can you have negative estrogen? Cause that seems like how you would...

[Cylon357]

I dont know how anyone could use 2mg of adex everyday. Troll?

You know, Cuz gave us the reason right up front. Trolls are well known to be high aromatizers and low responders.

[Cuz]

You know, Cuz gave us the reason right up front. Trolls are well known to be high aromatizers and low responders.

Whats a “Zorklift” anyway?

[almostgone]

Good gravy, I can't imagine what 60mg would be like, even once. Can you have negative estrogen? Cause that seems like how you would...

LOL, what's the next step? Letro?

[Honkey_Kong]

Good gravy, I can't imagine what 60mg would be like, even once. Can you have negative estrogen? Cause that seems like how you would...

I know I couldn't believe that they'd test that much on somebody. The poor test subjects must've had the most painful joints ever recorded.

[ZorkLift]

Cuz.

I came here looking for some answers because I couldn’t find any anywhere else and you’ve done nothing but bastardize me about my questions and lack of knowledge. I thought I did my research, I thought I had legit stuff and from what others are saying I must have been misled. I’m just looking for help and you’ve kind of been a dick about the whole thing

[ZorkLift]

I’ve started letro once every 4 days to see if it lowers my estrogen and I have a blood test in about another week. I’m hoping it shows a decrease in my estrogen or it means my letro is garbage too
It’s hard to find legit stuff nowadays and I thought it was a problem with my body’s reaction to the AI’s and not that everything I’ve gotten from different people and websites over the years has been junk

[Cuz]

Cuz.

I came here looking for some answers because I couldn’t find any anywhere else and you’ve done nothing but bastardize me about my questions and lack of knowledge. I thought I did my research, I thought I had legit stuff and from what others are saying I must have been misled. I’m just looking for help and you’ve kind of been a dick about the whole thing

Bud, you have ignored EVERY SINGLE ONE OF MY RESPONSES. How can I take you seriously right now? Dont play the victim with me. I told you to stop right away but it’s something you dont want to do….who in their rjght mind would let their estrogen get 660. You are going to grow tits man. But im “just being a dick” so dont listen to me

[tbjake34]

yup thats cuz. he likes to lecture people. idk why but he did the same thing to me and I've been taking gear for over ten years.. But op bro 660 estrogen is higher than a women at her peak so you have something else going on if ai doesn't do shit. see a doctor.

[ZorkLift]

I do appreciate the advice you did give and I’m not trying to offend you at all. I am taking your advice and stopping my cycle and hopefully in 6 months to a year from now when I decide to do another I can get a little more educated on what my body is trying to tell me. I obviously was misled by the guy I got my stuff from and the test/tren/eq is real but the AI’s are not and hopefully I can find a more reputable person to get my gear from

[Honkey_Kong]

LOL, what's the next step? Letro?

The next step is buying Maxi-Pads.

[ZorkLift]

Super helpful honkeykong thanks for that ��

[Cuz]

Super helpful honkeykong thanks for that ��

Are you on trt? If you’re not, you probably should be with dr supervision. Thats a really high number for estrogen from 400 test you wont see any from tren and little if any at all from 200 EQ.

[ZorkLift]

After my next blood test I guess I should see where my test levels settle down to in a couple months and see if my doctor thinks that something that he would prescribe for me

[Cuz]

After my next blood test I guess I should see where my test levels settle down to in a couple months and see if my doctor thinks that something that he would prescribe for me

Ok, so you’re not on trt. Alright fella good call, blood work is important. Hope you get yourself sorted out soon…

[Honkey_Kong]

Super helpful honkeykong thanks for that ��

Well you insist that your adex has been tested and it's not bunk, but yet your estrogen is sitting at 660 after taking 2mg of adex daily. I don't know where you got that stuff from or why you believe it was tested, but if you're taking 2mg per day and still have more estrogen in your body than 3 average women combined, something isn't adding up.

[teedoff]

660 estrogen? How the heck is this even possible? Is this a number using a different measurement? When my estrogen was in the mid to high 90s, I had gyno. Like he either has full on women sized tits, or he'd he could even die from that much estrogen in his system!

[Honkey_Kong]

660 estrogen? How the heck is this even possible? Is this a number using a different measurement? When my estrogen was in the mid to high 90s, I had gyno. Like he either has full on women sized tits, or he'd he could even die from that much estrogen in his system!

Yeah he's full of shit. Then tries to act like a dick when people don't give him serious responses. It's probably another one of kimbo's sock accounts anyways.