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    Couldn’t the disgruntled Palestinians have moved to another country (I’m talking well prior to this war). I’m not sure what the Israeli laws were regarding that? I mean moving in lieu of terrorist actions.

    Regarding the shenanigans of Hammas, Shani Louk is an excellent and sickening example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wango View Post
    Couldn’t the disgruntled Palestinians have moved to another country (I’m talking well prior to this war). I’m not sure what the Israeli laws were regarding that? I mean moving in lieu of terrorist actions.

    Regarding the shenanigans of Hammas, Shani Louk is an excellent and sickening example.
    Move to where? How do you move the country you and your people have been in for thousands of years? The jews from Europe basically stole Palestine and made it Israel... I know that historically jews occupied part of the area near Jerusalem, but that was over 2,500 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    Move to where? How do you move the country you and your people have been in for thousands of years? The jews from Europe basically stole Palestine and made it Israel... I know that historically jews occupied part of the area near Jerusalem, but that was over 2,500 years ago.
    TM, after I married my wife & got to know her family, I immersed myself in learning about Jews, because as a child in a very conservative family, I was taught that Jews were not “good”.

    I fully understand how Israel was formed (as was the rest of the mid-east countries - quite arbitrarily largely by the Europeans and US); and it was extremely unfair. As stated before, my wife is sympathetic to the shit the ultra conservative Jews have put the Palestinians through (as am I). But they ain’t changing their ways!

    They are in fact Muslims. Move to another Muslim dominated country (there’s plenty to chose from). Is it fair or right that they need to? Heck no! But - is it equally fair & right to turn to terrorism means, particularly in Israel where you damn well know how they’ll retaliate?

    So, you hate Israel that much?!? OK Syria, Egypt, Lebanon, Iran (historically all with military backing by Russia) - shut up and actually do something of significance & don’t fuck up this time as you have before.

    It’s time to end the weak, petty bs whining. If there are countries truly sympathetic to the Palestinian people, give them a new home. Let the bullshit that Israel’s actions have taken stink Israel up, because it is so obvious. Why continually whine & moan and create the suffering and deaths of more innocent people ?

    I have absolutely no tolerance for terrorism & personally hope the response by Israel completely destroys Hamas, Hezbollah & totally removes (not kills) all Palestinian civilians to someplace else (just not here in the USA or Europe). Hell, send them to Russia as they are the big power & much of the dollars behind this crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wango View Post
    TM, after I married my wife & got to know her family, I immersed myself in learning about Jews, because as a child in a very conservative family, I was taught that Jews were not “good”.

    I fully understand how Israel was formed (as was the rest of the mid-east countries - quite arbitrarily largely by the Europeans and US); and it was extremely unfair. As stated before, my wife is sympathetic to the shit the ultra conservative Jews have put the Palestinians through (as am I). But they ain’t changing their ways!

    They are in fact Muslims. Move to another Muslim dominated country (there’s plenty to chose from). Is it fair or right that they need to? Heck no! But - is it equally fair & right to turn to terrorism means, particularly in Israel where you damn well know how they’ll retaliate?

    So, you hate Israel that much?!? OK Syria, Egypt, Lebanon, Iran (historically all with military backing by Russia) - shut up and actually do something of significance & don’t fuck up this time as you have before.

    It’s time to end the weak, petty bs whining. If there are countries truly sympathetic to the Palestinian people, give them a new home. Let the bullshit that Israel’s actions have taken stink Israel up, because it is so obvious. Why continually whine & moan and create the suffering and deaths of more innocent people ?

    I have absolutely no tolerance for terrorism & personally hope the response by Israel completely destroys Hamas, Hezbollah & totally removes (not kills) all Palestinian civilians to someplace else (just not here in the USA or Europe). Hell, send them to Russia as they are the big power & much of the dollars behind this crap.

    I'm always gonna cheer the underdog and I try to be fair. Jews were the underdogs until they became the bigger dog and started doing to the people in these arab communities what was done to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    I'm always gonna cheer the underdog and I try to be fair. Jews were the underdogs until they became the bigger dog and started doing to the people in these arab communities what was done to them.
    1000% agree with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    Move to where? How do you move the country you and your people have been in for thousands of years? The jews from Europe basically stole Palestine and made it Israel... I know that historically jews occupied part of the area near Jerusalem, but that was over 2,500 years ago.
    Israel is historically jewish land. The jews were there first before they were enslaved and persecuted out of there. After all what the jews been through, they not gonna give away theyr homeland again to make some dual state with the palestinians. They will fight till the last man if need to. I think the palestinians should be happy to live in israel just as citizens or move into another muslim country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    Move to where? How do you move the country you and your people have been in for thousands of years? The jews from Europe basically stole Palestine and made it Israel... I know that historically jews occupied part of the area near Jerusalem, but that was over 2,500 years ago.
    I forget exactly when it was (approximately 18yrs ago), the then Iranian President Aminajab *spelling error for sure) gave an address at the UN, I believe, where he commented just that. He said something along the lines of, the Europeans, post WW II, felt bad about what they (the Europeans) had done to the Jews, so they gave they Palestine. He went on to suggest that if Europe and the collective West had such feelings, why not give them Switzerland, instead of Palestine... I am undoubtedly off on my paraphrase, but this was the gist. He made a very compelling point...

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    Quote Originally Posted by XnavyHMCS View Post
    I forget exactly when it was (approximately 18yrs ago), the then Iranian President Aminajab *spelling error for sure) gave an address at the UN, I believe, where he commented just that. He said something along the lines of, the Europeans, post WW II, felt bad about what they (the Europeans) had done to the Jews, so they gave they Palestine. He went on to suggest that if Europe and the collective West had such feelings, why not give them Switzerland, instead of Palestine... I am undoubtedly off on my paraphrase, but this was the gist. He made a very compelling point...
    The world didn’t (and most still don’t) want the Jews. Hell, no body wanted to increase their immigration policies while the shit was actually happening, easily mitigating the entire holocaust. No wonder “we” felt guilty.

    Too bad Hitler didn’t move them all to Africa (Madagascar).

    But after the war - what to with those poor Jews. Kind of like radioactive waste; let’s move it far away where “we” can’t be affected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wango View Post
    The world didn’t (and most still don’t) want the Jews. Hell, no body wanted to increase their immigration policies while the shit was actually happening, easily mitigating the entire holocaust. No wonder “we” felt guilty.

    Too bad Hitler didn’t move them all to Africa (Madagascar).

    But after the war - what to with those poor Jews. Kind of like radioactive waste; let’s move it far away where “we” can’t be affected.

    It was a very strategic move to an area where America figured they can use Israel as a proxy for control of that area. And that's what Israel is now. That's why our politicians and media always show them favorably.

    And yeah, I agree with you on the point that Europe likely didn't want the Jews either. It's weird that they have had so much hatred toward them anywhere they went... I can only think one other minority group that is similarly disliked universally. I can only say that, from my experience, Jewish people are mostly good people that work hard and stick to their own. Many years ago I got locked out of the house my girlfriend and I bought, on the first day we moved in...smh. It was a weekend, around 7 pm. I called and called, and finally got a hold of one company that sent a guy out to open our door. It was a Jewish guy and my girlfriend semi-jokingly asked if he could get me a job as I was looking for one, and the guy asked me "are you Jewish?" I said, no, and he told me "they're not gonna hire you man, sorry." So, I think part of what makes them unique is they stick to their own, and that includes providing opportunities to their own over anyone else. They are a society within a society, and I think that is part of the reason they are disliked by some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    It was a very strategic move to an area where America figured they can use Israel as a proxy for control of that area. And that's what Israel is now. That's why our politicians and media always show them favorably.

    And yeah, I agree with you on the point that Europe likely didn't want the Jews either. It's weird that they have had so much hatred toward them anywhere they went... I can only think one other minority group that is similarly disliked universally. I can only say that, from my experience, Jewish people are mostly good people that work hard and stick to their own. Many years ago I got locked out of the house my girlfriend and I bought, on the first day we moved in...smh. It was a weekend, around 7 pm. I called and called, and finally got a hold of one company that sent a guy out to open our door. It was a Jewish guy and my girlfriend semi-jokingly asked if he could get me a job as I was looking for one, and the guy asked me "are you Jewish?" I said, no, and he told me "they're not gonna hire you man, sorry." So, I think part of what makes them unique is they stick to their own, and that includes providing opportunities to their own over anyone else. They are a society within a society, and I think that is part of the reason they are disliked by some.
    Once again, I’m in complete agreement with you.

    TY for that story, but regrettably the fact that they do stick together so tightly does upset the majority populations that they inhabited/inhabit. And although it is a somewhat unfair thing to say, when $ are involved, well, historically it’s been a hot issue.

    When the wife & I wed, our tiny & brief ceremony was held not in a place of worship & was conducted by a justice of the peace. Virtually no references were made to religion. Believe it or not we still had die hard family members & friends from both sides that weren’t particularly thrilled with a mixed wedding. Prejudice & hate is so prevalent.

    I laughed out loud yesterday to a video of a Hamas paraglider hitting a power line & bursting into a ball of flames. It’s so easy to fall into that hatred trap to find humor in that. Ok, I’m still laughing about it . . . Maybe the pics will be approved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wango View Post
    The world didn’t (and most still don’t) want the Jews. Hell, no body wanted to increase their immigration policies while the shit was actually happening, easily mitigating the entire holocaust. No wonder “we” felt guilty.

    Too bad Hitler didn’t move them all to Africa (Madagascar).

    But after the war - what to with those poor Jews. Kind of like radioactive waste; let’s move it far away where “we” can’t be affected.
    If we had only known what the future foretold...

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    Quote Originally Posted by wango View Post
    Couldn’t the disgruntled Palestinians have moved to another country (I’m talking well prior to this war). I’m not sure what the Israeli laws were regarding that? I mean moving in lieu of terrorist actions.

    Regarding the shenanigans of Hammas, Shani Louk is an excellent and sickening example.
    Most likely; none of their "rag head, camel jockey" brothers want them; they know what these people are...

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    Quote Originally Posted by XnavyHMCS View Post
    Most likely; none of their "rag head, camel jockey" brothers want them; they know what these people are...
    Yup.

    Guess those Palestinians are shit out of luck. Clear Gaza out completely, make it 100% Israeli, move the Palestinians to the West Bank. Compensate them by moving out most/all of the settlements there, but make it a police state.

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