YES I know that estrogen is actually needed in men... That estrogen actually helps build muscle and keep us stable on a chemical level not emotional......

I idiotically developed gyno before I knew what was up. The classic Dbol mistake long ago. Even when I hit sub 10% body fat while using 600mg Test E a week with 800mg of equipoise I still had it. And I was actively using Adex E3D.

300mg of test E a week years later and I found that 300mg alone with no anti estrogen nor HCG reduced my gyno by surprise (probably a precursor to "bro you gave yourself low T!!).

I get it. During a cycle if you are going to use it is 500IU of HCG minimal, while if you're just on TRT/HRT, sometimes a higher dose is productive.

That when you do PCT the standard protocol is 1000IU of HCG with clomid at 100/100/50/50 and nolvadex at 40/40/20/20 for four weeks.

That your last four weeks of your cycle it's a good idea to switch to ace/prop/orals so you can start your PCT after 3 days rather than waiting for the last shot of your long acting esters to detox out of your body.

What I will admit is... I stopped studying after my use. I found no use for it. Until now where it's painfully obvious intervention is needed.

There's more to say but I don't want Cylon357 coming back at me with another "man you talk to much" post when I need him right now.