Did I pin the ventrogluteal? (Picture of BUTT)

[almostgone]

There are tons of places online to find this information.

Also, I may have overlooked it, but Austinite's recommendation for a beginner's cycle doesn't recommend frontloading. Again, I may have overlooked it, the thread is lengthy.

Here is a perfect beginner cycle layout:

- Week 1 to 12: Testosterone enanthate @ 250 mg every 3.5 days (500mg/week total)
- Week 1 to 12: hCG @ 250 iu every 3.5 days (500 iu/week total)
- Week 1 to 14: Arimidex @ 0.25mg every other day (From day 2 up until PCT starts).

[SuperVegeta]

There are tons of places online to find this information.

Also, I may have overlooked it, but Austinite's recommendation for a beginner's cycle doesn't recommend frontloading. Again, I may have overlooked it, the thread is lengthy.

Here is a perfect beginner cycle layout:

- Week 1 to 12: Testosterone enanthate @ 250 mg every 3.5 days (500mg/week total)
- Week 1 to 12: hCG @ 250 iu every 3.5 days (500 iu/week total)
- Week 1 to 14: Arimidex @ 0.25mg every other day (From day 2 up until PCT starts).

Hi, why did you take the picture down? Now nobody can advise me on if that was the right spot. Did it look correct to you? I highlighted the spot where I injected in red.

Yeah this is my 2nd time running the beginner cycle. Came to the conclusion that I shouldn't add tons of extra compounds just yet, just repeat the original cycle. (Or should I add another compound since this is my 2nd run? I just want to pack on mass for now. The time on/off is quite long with these 16-20 week cycles so my 3rd cycle would be next year.)

The purpose of frontloading is to get the saturation levels up quicker, rather than waiting 4-5 weeks for these long esters to kick in. What do you think?

Also, with Austinites cycle, why does she say to start arimidex on day 2 onwards? What's the reasoning behind waiting 1 whole day to start it?

Another thing with Austinites cycle, it is from 11 years ago, would you say much has changed from her recommendations?

Thanks.

[Cylon357]

Hi, why did you take the picture down? Now nobody can advise me on if that was the right spot. Did it look correct to you? I highlighted the spot where I injected in red.

Yeah this is my 2nd time running the beginner cycle. Came to the conclusion that I shouldn't add tons of extra compounds just yet, just repeat the original cycle. (Or should I add another compound since this is my 2nd run? I just want to pack on mass for now. The time on/off is quite long with these 16-20 week cycles so my 3rd cycle would be next year.)

The purpose of frontloading is to get the saturation levels up quicker, rather than waiting 4-5 weeks for these long esters to kick in. What do you think?

Also, with Austinites cycle, why does she say to start arimidex on day 2 onwards? What's the reasoning behind waiting 1 whole day to start it?

Another thing with Austinites cycle, it is from 11 years ago, would you say much has changed from her recommendations?

Thanks.

Not speaking for AG, but the pic almost certainly came down because it was a bare behind. Way more showing than needed to ask the question.

Austinite is a dude. That's DLB in his avatar.

Everybody understands the purpose of front loading, that's not the point. The point is that front loading isn't part of the cycle from the sticky.

Regarding adex usage waiting a day, why would you start it early? That would put you in a hole.

The only thing I would say could be updated would be to replace clomid with enclomiphene in PCT and adjust the dose accordingly. Something like 60mg enclomiphene vs 100mg clomid.

[SuperVegeta]

Not speaking for AG, but the pic almost certainly came down because it was a bare behind. Way more showing than needed to ask the question.

Austinite is a dude. That's DLB in his avatar.

Everybody understands the purpose of front loading, that's not the point. The point is that front loading isn't part of the cycle from the sticky.

Regarding adex usage waiting a day, why would you start it early? That would put you in a hole.

The only thing I would say could be updated would be to replace clomid with enclomiphene in PCT and adjust the dose accordingly. Something like 60mg enclomiphene vs 100mg clomid.

Hi, thanks for chiming in. Hmmm, I just posted the whole butt as if I zoomed in there'd be no reference points for as to what is where. From what you saw, did the pin point look okay?

Oh haha, I remember Dana was popular in 2011, haven't heard that name in years. I am surprised anyone knows who she is, quite a niche from something 13+ years ago.

Yeah I see, I just mentioned that I frontloaded as that is the only difference from his cycle layout. Have you ever frontloaded? Trying to find logs of people doing it.

"That would put you in a hole." Why would arimidex early do what exactly? For Austinites cycle, he mentioned to do arimidex from day 2. I'm just wondering what the reasoning behind it being day 2 specifically and not day 1 like everything else.

I agree with the enclomiphene subsitution. But, 60mg of enclomiphene?? Where did you hear that? I was on 6.25mg before and I felt the effects just fine. That's like a bottle of enclomiphene a day.

Thanks.

[Cylon357]

Hi, thanks for chiming in. Hmmm, I just posted the whole butt as if I zoomed in there'd be no reference points for as to what is where. From what you saw, did the pin point look okay?

Oh haha, I remember Dana was popular in 2011, haven't heard that name in years. I am surprised anyone knows who she is, quite a niche from something 13+ years ago.

Yeah I see, I just mentioned that I frontloaded as that is the only difference from his cycle layout. Have you ever frontloaded? Trying to find logs of people doing it.

"That would put you in a hole." Why would arimidex early do what exactly? For Austinites cycle, he mentioned to do arimidex from day 2. I'm just wondering what the reasoning behind it being day 2 specifically and not day 1 like everything else.

I agree with the enclomiphene subsitution. But, 60mg of enclomiphene?? Where did you hear that? I was on 6.25mg before and I felt the effects just fine. That's like a bottle of enclomiphene a day.

Thanks.

The math is easy on the clomid to enclomiphene conversion. Clomid is 5/8ths enclomiphene. 5/8ths is 62.5 percent. 62.5 percent of 100 is, you guessed it, 62.5. Round that to 60 for the math challenged and there you go.

If you have done the first cycle, you know that the recommendation, if I remember right, for the clomid dose in the first week of pct is 100mg per day.

Your arimidex question... you can answer that if you think about it just a bit. But here is a hint: why are you taking adex in the first place?

Front loading is done frequently, though I like orals for that purpose. I'm on trt though, not cycling, so it kind of loses some value.

I only do subq injections so I can't comment on your injection location.

[SuperVegeta]

The math is easy on the clomid to enclomiphene conversion. Clomid is 5/8ths enclomiphene. 5/8ths is 62.5 percent. 62.5 percent of 100 is, you guessed it, 62.5. Round that to 60 for the math challenged and there you go.

If you have done the first cycle, you know that the recommendation, if I remember right, for the clomid dose in the first week of pct is 100mg per day.

Your arimidex question... you can answer that if you think about it just a bit. But here is a hint: why are you taking adex in the first place?

Front loading is done frequently, though I like orals for that purpose. I'm on trt though, not cycling, so it kind of loses some value.

I only do subq injections so I can't comment on your injection location.

Thanks for clearing everything up for me, much appreciated.

Yeah I get the arimidex part now. Just not the enclomiphene part! When I was on 6.25mg of it, the first few days I was waking up in sweat (hormone fluctuations peak when sleeping). My balls were aching aswell. Couldn't imagine taking 45mg of it. What do you make of this? Is upping the dose as linear in side effects as what I'm thinking?

I see, what orals were u running? In conjunction with a test base I'd assume.

What's your reasoning for not doing IM injections?

Thanks.

[Cylon357]

Thanks for clearing everything up for me, much appreciated.

Yeah I get the arimidex part now. Just not the enclomiphene part! When I was on 6.25mg of it, the first few days I was waking up in sweat (hormone fluctuations peak when sleeping). My balls were aching aswell. Couldn't imagine taking 45mg of it. What do you make of this? Is upping the dose as linear in side effects as what I'm thinking?

I see, what orals were u running? In conjunction with a test base I'd assume.

What's your reasoning for not doing IM injections?

Thanks.

Where did you get your enclo? What else were you running with it? Peep the enclomiphene sticky in the TRT sub for all I know.

I've tried a few different orals. Var, dbol, tbol, probably one or two others. A couple of SARMS, maybe? Proviron of course but that is frequently part of my TRT and is safe at low doses long term, so I don't really count it.

I don't do IM because I am 56 years old and on TRT. And do NOT need any temptation to increase volume.

[almostgone]

Thanks for clearing everything up for me, much appreciated.

Yeah I get the arimidex part now. Just not the enclomiphene part! When I was on 6.25mg of it, the first few days I was waking up in sweat (hormone fluctuations peak when sleeping). My balls were aching aswell. Couldn't imagine taking 45mg of it. What do you make of this? Is upping the dose as linear in side effects as what I'm thinking?

I see, what orals were u running? In conjunction with a test base I'd assume.

What's your reasoning for not doing IM injections?

Thanks.

You keep bringing up 6.25mg. For some reason, I think you are referring to Aromasin, but anyway.....

Edit: If you decide to add an oral, go with var IF you can get quality anavar. I get the feeling that you are from the UK and pharmaceutical var may be easy to source there.
Here in the USA, the FDA is kind of frowning on anavar in regards to its prescribed usage.

https://www.federalregister.gov/docu...0effectiveness.

[almostgone]

Hi, why did you take the picture down? Now nobody can advise me on if that was the right spot. Did it look correct to you? I highlighted the spot where I injected in red.

Yeah this is my 2nd time running the beginner cycle. Came to the conclusion that I shouldn't add tons of extra compounds just yet, just repeat the original cycle. (Or should I add another compound since this is my 2nd run? I just want to pack on mass for now. The time on/off is quite long with these 16-20 week cycles so my 3rd cycle would be next year.)

The purpose of frontloading is to get the saturation levels up quicker, rather than waiting 4-5 weeks for these long esters to kick in. What do you think?

Also, with Austinites cycle, why does she say to start arimidex on day 2 onwards? What's the reasoning behind waiting 1 whole day to start it?

Another thing with Austinites cycle, it is from 11 years ago, would you say much has changed from her recommendations?

Thanks.

You could've cropped the pic and still gotten your answer. No one needs to see a hairy ass crack to determine if your injection was in the correct spot.

Again, there a TON of pics online that can assist you.

[SuperVegeta]

You could've cropped the pic and still gotten your answer. No one needs to see a hairy ass crack to determine if your injection was in the correct spot.

Again, there a TON of pics online that can assist you.

Okay fair enough haha. It wasn't hairy by the way, I think it was just static from my pants and a shadow.

What do you think of my dilemma with perhaps adding another compound seeing as how this is my 2nd cycle? By my understanding, you'd pair compounds together inline with the 3 steroid bases (DHT, 19-Nor, Test). Not like choosing arbitrary stuff like I'm at a candy shop. I was thinking of adding deca. (Frontloading deca would negate the short ester/fast kick in perk of NPP right?)

What do you think about this as a brief cycle outline. 2 injectables, then either 1 of the 2 orals for a 6-8 week duration at the start/end of cycle. Leaning towards anavar. Total cycle is 16 weeks.
Test E
Deca
Anavar
Turinabol

Thanks.

EDIT: Actually, do you have any resources/stickies/educational threads similar to Austinites first cycle, but in regards to 2nd and beyond cycles? I have seen a few on other sites, but 1 is from 2011 and the other is from 2006. They're great, but I can't even cross reference it with anything up to date as it seems that most guys just blindly add compounds in today's culture. Everyone is an expert now whereas back in the time before 2012 the guys writing these guides were actually experts in the field.

[almostgone]

Hi, why did you take the picture down? Now nobody can advise me on if that was the right spot. Did it look correct to you? I highlighted the spot where I injected in red.

Yeah this is my 2nd time running the beginner cycle. Came to the conclusion that I shouldn't add tons of extra compounds just yet, just repeat the original cycle. (Or should I add another compound since this is my 2nd run? I just want to pack on mass for now. The time on/off is quite long with these 16-20 week cycles so my 3rd cycle would be next year.)

The purpose of frontloading is to get the saturation levels up quicker, rather than waiting 4-5 weeks for these long esters to kick in. What do you think?

Also, with Austinites cycle, why does she say to start arimidex on day 2 onwards? What's the reasoning behind waiting 1 whole day to start it?

Another thing with Austinites cycle, it is from 11 years ago, would you say much has changed from her recommendations?

Thanks.

Yes, as always, trends change. The current thought is to use a minimal amount of an aromatase inhibitor.

[Cylon357]

Yes, as always, trends change. The current thought is to use a minimal amount of an aromatase inhibitor.

I DO agree with this, even though it is about to sound like I don't lol!

The cycle as designed is intended to be idiot proof. It might not be ideal for all people, but it is almost as safe a cycle as you can find, assuming that you actually READ, UNDERSTAND and FOLLOW the entire first post.

We know that doesn't happen lol

Rant forthcoming...

Way too many men read it like this:
"You should have this much experience..." and say nah, skip that don't care.
"You body fat should be no more than..." nah, doesn't apply to me, skip
"Your LBM should.." just nope, not me. SKIP!
"HCG..." Nope not me, I'm all about them 'roids, bro! SKIPPITY SKIP SKIP

Now, bear with me, because THIS is when the fun really starts!
They THEN have the audacity to come back here and say "I followed this cycle and now I feel like sh!t and have tits! CRY!!". Follow ups look like this:

Q: Really? When did you start the adex?
A: I didn't have any so I didn't use it and my Gym Broski Skillety Billy Jim Bob said I didn't need it and he went to a body building show once so he knows more than some chick on the internet.

Q: Hmm, just test only, right?
A: No, I did 100mg dbol for 10 weeks and some old prohormone I had from 2007 and then I added some trenavar

Q: Alrrrright, so did you AT LEAST follow the PCT?
A: Yes but I couldn't get tamid or clofoxine (sic) so I just used a test booster from Wal-Mart

Or something along those lines.

So yeah, maybe we should just leave it as is. It is as safe as this thing we do can be if and when it is followed.