no gains after 7wks.

[jpmacco]

if you were taking in a high enough amount of calories and protein needed for a cycle, you should have gained more than 2 lbs naturally after 7 wks on an intense training program. anyway, sorry to hear about your situation.

I gained about 15lbs but it was mostly fat, so I increased my cardio.

[tmeoe]

I gained about 15lbs but it was mostly fat, so I increased my cardio.

Bro there it is right there, you got gains just not the ones you were looking for, what are your stats and especially bf%. I would guess there is problem in the diet and training. A 15lb increase in body weight in 7wks is very hard to do. All is not lost yet either, the EQ will kick in better soon and you should see some sort of cutting effect from that.

Also, you may want to tear off the holograms it should say something like void and be able to reflect light.

I guess i'm one of the few who thinks your stuff is legit, underdosed probably, but legit.

Open question to everyone, Does QV have rounded corners or squared?

[jpmacco]

Bro there it is right there, you got gains just not the ones you were looking for, what are your stats and especially bf%. I would guess there is problem in the diet and training. A 15lb increase in body weight in 7wks is very hard to do. All is not lost yet either, the EQ will kick in better soon and you should see some sort of cutting effect from that.

Also, you may want to tear off the holograms it should say something like void and be able to reflect light.

I guess i'm one of the few who thinks your stuff is legit, underdosed probably, but legit.

Open question to everyone, Does QV have rounded corners or squared?

What is "void" in spanish? It does reflect light. All the markings are there. I'm 99% positive it's real.

I'm 185lbs. 19-20%bf which went up from 15% I train hard an hour a day, 5 days a wk. My diet is protein and quality carbs. I had a cycle a couple of years ago and it just doesn't feel the same. As I remember it, I had better strength and weight gains with the same amount.

I didn't take proviron at the time. Could the lack of gains be due to lack of water retention?

Oh, the corners are rounded.

[longhornDr]

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I'm 185lbs. 19-20%bf which went up from 15% I train hard an hour a day, 5 days a wk. My diet is protein and quality carbs.
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Bro there is no way you gained 5% BF in 7 weeks eating a clean diet (assuming you don't have a metabolic diesease.) I'm eating 4000 calories a day right now and not putting on any fat and im natural.

You would have had to take in 50,000+ excess fat calories.