lets see,tren is VERY toxic to the kidneys,so u dont want stay on it long like 4-5 weeks max i ,drink alot and i mean alot of water,winnie is 17 alk.so thats toxic to the liver,so i wouldnt stay on it all that long two,take alot of milk thistle and crannberry seed extract,i cant awnser your other quesion on how much strength your gonna get since it varys from person to person ,