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  1. #1
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    If its your first cycle, I wouldn't run the deca more than 8 weeks. Actually you should drop the deca alltogether for your first cycle so you can see how each compound effects your body. For instance if you get gyno, you will not know if it is from the deca or Test. As Nolva won't help deca gyno, you would be treating it wrong.

    Lastly, take the nolva daily. It does not hinder gains. Just enter gyno on search and you will see all the guys that wish they prevented gyno with the nolva daily, rather than have to treat it.

    Good luck!

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    my bad on the 118 thing lol thats pretty odd body 118 lb w/ 17% bf lol....he's 218.

    Thanks for the props on researching, i know exactly what you're saying...i hate people that come into a pharmacy and have no f ing idea what they are on and what it does to their body....**** idiots!!

    Anyway...i have heard the advice before about only running test for your first cycle but after reading like 250 different threads on the subject it seemed that more votes were in favor of using both anabolics instead of just one. This is probably something that will change but as of right now im only planning on running one bulking cycle and one cutting cycle and then stopping for a long time (maybe forever but probably not).

    This brings me to my next question... what if i were to take an aromatase inhibitor such as femara would this help my problem's with the deca??? or what about substituting EQ for Deca (probably not).

    Has anyone ever used Raloxifene (Evista) instead of Tamoxifen??? It's more of a "selective" SERM....so to say.....very expensive though with probably no more benefit...just wondering.


    thanks for any input please keep it coming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    i think i just answered my own question w/ the aromatase inhibitor....it slipped my mind that progesterone is not aromatized therefore an aromatase inhibitor would be completely worthless against progestin production....****


    what can you use???

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    For the deca you can take bromo to combat the estrogen. EQ will yeild more lean quality gains, you might gain an extra 5-10 pounds with deca but some of it will be water and not as lean...

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