Oral cycles are bad for a bunch of reasons, but most importantly, those two compunds are 17aa. Meaning they have been chemically bonded so that the drug can pass through the liver and get into the bloodstream. This causes significant strain on the liver, and over a period of time becomes liver toxic. 17aa orals are used at a max of 5 weeks at a time, and that is for 1 compound only. Another reason oral stacks are no good is that the gains are very hard to keep, as fast as dbol or anadrol bring weight and strength on, it disappears just as fast w/o another compound as a base to support the gain. Test is the best thing to start learning about, if you are serious about getting into AS, then do it right, dont risk harm to your body w/o learning everything first.