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    if you aren't ready to inject, you aren't ready for anabolics.

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    I'm 6 feet 145 pounds and cut. I need to gain bulk. I've tried everything from insane caloric intake to protein, to creatine and andro, so I thiunk I'm ready for AS. I don't want to use needles, any advice on whether I should just do dianobol or just winstrol and for how long? Will they work and maintain for a while? Thanks for the advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by supernewb
    I'm 6 feet 145 pounds and cut. I need to gain bulk. I've tried everything from insane caloric intake to protein, to creatine and andro, so I thiunk I'm ready for AS. I don't want to use needles, any advice on whether I should just do dianobol or just winstrol and for how long? Will they work and maintain for a while? Thanks for the advice.
    Like everyone else said, an oral only cycle is a waste of time and money....at 6 ft 145 pds you shpuld be able to put som emore mass on naturally....i dont think you are ready for AS....my advice to you is to get rid of what you have and do some research so you dont harm your body...also I bet your diet isnt too good if youre that size at 6 ft, AS is no miracle drug, if combined with proper diet/rest/training you can achieve results, but it seems like yuo dont have any of those in check....jmo....

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    6'0" 145? You can gain just as much weight without steroids in 12 weeks! Go to the dieting thread, and learn how to take in more calories. I assume now you are eatin 3-4 meals a day, until you are full? Instead, break up your day into 6 meals each with 600-700 calories. Thats about 4000 calories right there. Suplement that with 3 prein shakes a day, your at nearly 5000 a day.

    You will gain weight with that I promise. You need to learn a lot more about dieting and gaining weight if you are 6'0"" 145 and are weight training.

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    Quote Originally Posted by supernewb
    I'm 6 feet 145 pounds and cut. I need to gain bulk. I've tried everything from insane caloric intake to protein, to creatine and andro, so I thiunk I'm ready for AS. I don't want to use needles, any advice on whether I should just do dianobol or just winstrol and for how long? Will they work and maintain for a while? Thanks for the advice.
    I am in the same boat as you bro. I am 6'1" and 158lbs, looking to bulk up. In addition to a proper diet (5,000 cals) I am going to take creatine first for the next few weeks/month. from what I have heard creatine can put on 4 - 10 lbs. When I get closer to the 170 lb mark I am going to do a TEST CYP only cycle (run NOLVA ed) and clomid pct.

    I would stay away from orals because of the harsh liver damage. Always use milk thistle for you liver. I would recommend a TEST only cycle for your first time if this is your first cycle.

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