ok, cool cool, thats what I was thinking. so run something a little like this maybe?

wk1-2 &6-8 ECA
wk1-8 var 30mg ed
wk1-8 prop 75mg ed
wk1-5 primo 200mg
wk3-5 t3 according to cycleon's t3 FAQ
wk1-8 ldex .25ml ed
clomid afterwards

other supps. whey, cranberry extract, liver pills.
creatine while not on ECA? I was thinking of adding winny at the end, but I think that 3compounds is enough.thanks for the looks so far.