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    Quote Originally Posted by physio_sport
    youre statement about israel or the not being metioned in the quran is wrong, i would think this is becuase of your lack of knowlage in islamic and quranic teachings.

    israel, al-aqsa mosque and Dome of the Rock Mosque are mentioned in the quran

    for example Qur’an, in Surah 17, verse 1:

    "{Glory be to Him Who made His servant to go in a night from the Sacred Mosque to the Remote Mosque [al-Aqsa mosque] of which We have blessed the precincts, so that We may show to him some of Our signs; surely He is the Hearing, the Seeing.}"

    there are many quotes about israel in the quran. you seem to also forget that the muslims also belive in jesus and that jesus is going to return to save mankind by teaching them about god.
    if you read the quran you'll notice that the jesus is mentioned more times in the quran then the prophet mohammed. and as you know you can't talk about jesus without talking about isreal and jerusalum.

    back in the prophet mohammeds days people including the prophet mohammed used to pray facing the Jerusalem/al-Aqsa Mosque. since the building of the mekka people now have changed the direction in which they pray towards the mekka.

    also the muslims belive that mohammed travelled to jerusalum and thats where god brought him upto heaven this event was known as the "night journey"

    “Glory to (Allah) Who did take His servant for a Journey by night from the Sacred Mosque (Al-Masjid al-Haram) to the farthest Mosque (Al-Masjid al-Aqsa), whose precincts We did bless, in order that We might show him some of Our Signs: for He is the One Who heareth and seeth (all things).” (al-Isra’: 1)

    also some different sects of islam belive in things called the hadeets/sunnahs which are meant to be saying or speaches said by mohammed in one of these saying he said

    “A prayer in the Sacred Mosque [in Makkah] is worth 100,000 prayers, a prayer in my mosque [in Madinah] is worth 1,000, and a prayer in Jerusalem [al-Aqsa Mosque] is worth 500 prayers more than in any other mosque.”

    im sorry that i couldn't list anymore quotes because

    1. i don't have the time to type it up.
    2. there are so many that if i do i'll basically end up writing out pages and pages and pages of quotes becuase there mentioned so many times in the quran,hedeeths/sunnahs(for those muslims who belive them)
    3. ive basically proved you wrong so i don't see the point of writing any more quotes. if you want to learn more, go get a quaran and do your own reading.
    salam alaykom
    nice quote brother ,but dont bother trying to convince a zionist he will always try to proove ur wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MilitiaGuy
    salam alaykom
    nice quote brother ,but dont bother trying to convince a zionist he will always try to proove ur wrong.
    You spelt 'Prove' wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MilitiaGuy
    salam alaykom
    nice quote brother ,but dont bother trying to convince a zionist he will always try to proove ur wrong.

    If I'm the Zionist you were refering to, then you might want to keep in mind I'm a very proud "she". Although I have said this in my posts, you wouldn't know that as you obviously don't bother reading through anything that is different than your views.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MilitiaGuy
    salam alaykom
    nice quote brother ,but dont bother trying to convince a zionist he will always try to proove ur wrong.

    You spelt 'Prove' and 'Your' wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MilitiaGuy
    salam alaykom
    nice quote brother ,but dont bother trying to convince a zionist he will always try to proove ur wrong.
    salam alaykom
    you're probably wright, it's like im talking to myself sometimes.
    i've posted the quotes and information yet people still won't belive it's there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by physio_sport
    salam alaykom
    you're probably wright, it's like im talking to myself sometimes.
    i've posted the quotes and information yet people still won't belive it's there.

    The same can be said about u and M'guy, and a few others that have posted. I think if u take the time to READ EVERYTHING, digest it and not be so clouded by what u perseve the truth to be i think ur eyes can be opened and both Palestinians and Israelis can live together in peace.

    Also, Palestinians and other extreme muslum groups are brought up to hate Israel and Jewish people in general. Israelis and Jewish people are NOT brought up to hate Palestinians. IMHO thats the root of the problem and the differene between peace and violence.

    OG

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    Quote Originally Posted by OGPackin
    Also, Palestinians and other extreme muslum groups are brought up to hate Israel and Jewish people in general. Israelis and Jewish people are NOT brought up to hate Palestinians. IMHO thats the root of the problem and the differene between peace and violence.

    In other words blame it on the Palestinians, and we can all be happy.

    The root of this problem is that BOTH parties are brought up to hate, first and foremost. That's the problem with this dynamic, is that it is ridiculosuly simple, yet remains so complex. Everything is a reaction to another reaction that was a reaction to something else. Tracing each action is relatively pointless at this point.

    Rak Ani, no one is going to debate who is a "good" religious person. I know my Bible better than most "devout" Christians, same with my Koran, yet I'm not religious. I can say the same for countless other people, it is not simply a matter of one religion having more educated people.

    Everyone seems to be generalizing here, in that pointing fingers from one side or the other is very easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rambo
    In other words blame it on the Palestinians, and we can all be happy.

    The root of this problem is that BOTH parties are brought up to hate, first and foremost. That's the problem with this dynamic, is that it is ridiculosuly simple, yet remains so complex. Everything is a reaction to another reaction that was a reaction to something else. Tracing each action is relatively pointless at this point.

    Rak Ani, no one is going to debate who is a "good" religious person. I know my Bible better than most "devout" Christians, same with my Koran, yet I'm not religious. I can say the same for countless other people, it is not simply a matter of one religion having more educated people.

    Everyone seems to be generalizing here, in that pointing fingers from one side or the other is very easy.

    I think ur wrong here Rambo and i can prove it with facts. The facts are, Palestinians and other extreme muslum groups teach their children in special schools ( if u can call them schools ) to hate Jewish people. They dont teach them math, english or science. They teach them hate and that its a good thing to stap explosives to their bodies and kill innocent men, women and children. This is a FACT and theres no denying it. There is NOTHING like that taught to young Jewish kids!

    OG

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