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    Great reply,so my tiredness may be a result of the hyperglycaemia after the gh-shot,but how much will IGF secretion vary,since it might be a good idea to have the IGF at the end of yor trainingsession to peak,because receptor sensitivity is high at this time.

    If it really peaks 36 hours after gh peaks,it will be impossible to determine the right time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewBreed
    Great reply,so my tiredness may be a result of the hyperglycaemia after the gh-shot,but how much will IGF secretion vary,since it might be a good idea to have the IGF at the end of yor trainingsession to peak,because receptor sensitivity is high at this time.

    If it really peaks 36 hours after gh peaks,it will be impossible to determine the right time.
    The studies that showed the 36hr period until IGF-1 peaks, were very old. There was a more recent study with rats that showed only about a 1-2hr lag. I'm much more prone to believe the recent study to be most accurate. If you're not using insulin, then GH preworkout makes some sense to me. If you're using insulin, then taking the two together post w/o makes the most sense.
    Last edited by Carlos_E; 05-12-2004 at 10:05 PM.

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    At the moment I´m really consequently shooting 4-6times/day IM with a dose of 0.5-1IU and I think this is to me the most effective wa to get the max out of it.

    Vascularity increased,fat decreased,hunger increased much more and it´s nearly impossible to lose weight,also I want to,I´m losing fat only.


    Mucle groups that are worked out increase,too.
    Recovery is better-this all compared to 5-7IU divided in two doses.

    Now doses are up(down) to 3 to 4IU/day-think that really works well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewBreed
    At the moment I´m really consequently shooting 4-6times/day IM with a dose of 0.5-1IU and I think this is to me the most effective wa to get the max out of it.

    Vascularity increased,fat decreased,hunger increased much more and it´s nearly impossible to lose weight,also I want to,I´m losing fat only.


    Mucle groups that are worked out increase,too.
    Recovery is better-this all compared to 5-7IU divided in two doses.

    Now doses are up(down) to 3 to 4IU/day-think that really works well.
    But GH is released every 3-5 hours naturally, based on diminishing levels of IGF-1 from the previous GH pulse. So, by injecting exogenous GH every 3-5 hours, you're effectively ensuring that you don't get the benefit of your own GH releases. By splitting up doses into 1 or 2 per day, you can still benefit from your own endogenous GH during the intervening periods.

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    I´m using very low doses appr. 0.5IU 1st shot and second shot about 30-40 min. later.I think halflife of GH/IM is about 40 min.,so I have a little kumulation,with the second shot,maybe a third and it should be little enough for gh-pulse when worke-out an hour later for about 2-4 hours.
    Then again same procedure.

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