M1t FAQ

[nsa]

Fvck milk, M1t does a body good...

[DevilsDeity]

right on

[nsa]

I personally use alot of 4-ad, i do about 6 sprays twice ED when on cycle. When taking that much you can not spray on one spot or else it would drip off of you. So i mostly put it on my pecs, delts, biceps and triceps. Its best to do it a little about getting out of the shower. Best results when you put it on a low fat region that is hairless or the place with the least hair. I find that taking an anti-aromatase like femara or proviron work well to keep the aromatization at bay.

[Soldier of Misfortune]

Ive got two bottles of 4derm and 3.5 more coming in the mail from a member here on AR. I wanted to do 2 M1T cycles cuz I have enough M1T for two (go figure, not back to back, spread out of course) I did some quick math and it will be more than enough for two cycles. Should I still use the recomended amount of 400mg ED (200mg morn and 200mg at nite, 5 sprays each time) or bump it up to the nsa level or 6 sprays for 480mg ED? Ill have 5.5 bottles so it will be more than enough. (I got it reel cheap) Would it be better to start off at 400mg ED and then if the lethargy is bad bump it up to 6 or 7 sprays ED?

[nsa]

Soldier, i like it alot more at a higher dose. But if your gonan do that get some femara from AR-R to stop aromatization. You could start at 600 mg ED no problem.

Puny, Its not nearly as effective in oral form. If its too much of a hassle to spray it on, then the only other effective way of countering the non-existent test levels is injectable test, like prop.

[Soldier of Misfortune]

Plus your liver is taking enough of a beating from the M1T so why make it work extra hard for the 4AD?

[Soldier of Misfortune]

What better place to gain senior membership than in the M1T faq?

Thanks for the 4derm response nsa. I looked on AR-R and couldnt find femara, but then clicked on everything to see if it was named something else. Sure enough it was Letro. Looks like Im gettin ANOTHER package in the mail.

[PunyKid]

Can someone tell me where I can get the Hawthorne Berry Extract for a good price? I can't seem to find it anywhere. Thanks.

[nsa]

Many herbal places on the net to get it. Or just go to your local vitamin store they should have it. Lots of old people use it.

[supdude24]

what is the total cost of this M1t cycle?cheap?

[nsa]

Not too much, can't be over 100$...

[supdude24]

how many M1t equal the liver toxicity of 1 D-bol or anadrol?

[nsa]

I don't think there are many, if any, studies into the quantitative hepatoxicity of orals in humans. Just generally known as being more or less liver toxic than eachother or not. Not to mention the way you phrased your question isn't the best, due to the fact that different labs produce different dosed orals...

[GQSuperman]

M1T about $10
4Ad 2 bottles about $35
Tribulus 2 bottles about $15
Hawthorne Berry about $10

Clen about $45
Nolva about $45
MIlk Thistle 2 bottles about $20

so about $180.

[birsling]

M1T about $10
4Ad 2 bottles about $35
Tribulus 2 bottles about $15
Hawthorne Berry about $10

Clen about $45
Nolva about $45
MIlk Thistle 2 bottles about $20

so about $180.

Cost is dependant on where you get your supplies, but this is a decent overview.

[GQSuperman]

these prices are estimates on what i bought from bulknutrition and from anabolicreview-research.com.. i think they are pretty much the cheapest places to buy the necessary ingredients.

[DirtyDog]

M1T about $10
4Ad 2 bottles about $35
Tribulus 2 bottles about $15
Hawthorne Berry about $10

Clen about $45
Nolva about $45
MIlk Thistle 2 bottles about $20

so about $180.

You forgot the Clomid.

About $45

Also, where the hell do you get 2 bottles of tribulus for $15?
Im in the UK and it costs about £18 ($32) for one bottle of a brand you've never heard of before. Ones from big companies cost £23 ($41) upwards!

[nsa]

Yeah thats about right. Little on the high side but its generally what most would pay for it, i was forgetting about pct when i said 100$.

[co2boi]

I just bought some "M1T Plus" that has Milk Thistle, Hawthorne Berry, Licorice Root 4:1, and Methyl 1 Test in it for $22 - 80 caps

[unclemoney]

co2boi were did you get that m1t plus?

[co2boi]

co2boi were did you get that m1t plus?

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/hp/mplus.html

Looks the price when up a few bucks. Still not a bad deal though

[Marc Angelo]

I'd do a search and find who's cheaper. In any case couple of hundred dollars are not bad fopr the result you get.

[co2boi]

For each his own, but I didn't really do any PST with M1T. I started a clen / eca cycle immediately afterwards and supplmented tongkat ali (along with other non-relevant things) and I was fine

[GQSuperman]

did you have a blood test to check your test levels after the cycle? if you're referring to you "feeling alright", i'm sure you did. that doesn't necessarily mean you didn't need PCT.

[co2boi]

did you have a blood test to check your test levels after the cycle? if you're referring to you "feeling alright", i'm sure you did. that doesn't necessarily mean you didn't need PCT.

You may be absolutely correct. I just used the usual gauges...horniness, anger, strength, etc. Nothing exacting.

[supdude24]

could i get by with just using Tribulis instead of clomid for pct? I have a couple of boxes of clomid but i don't wanna use them till i do my real cycle of of Test/Deca this November. and im scared to order more clomid because my buddy got his gear siezed by customs and im afraid that company has been flagged now.:/

[DevilsDeity]

could i get by with just using Tribulis instead of clomid for pct? I have a couple of boxes of clomid but i don't wanna use them till i do my real cycle of of Test/Deca this November. and im scared to order more clomid because my buddy got his gear siezed by customs and im afraid that company has been flagged now.:/

just order the liquid clomid from AR-R (the board sponser)
i ordered stuff from them on sunday and had it on wed.

[Psychotron]

mine wasnt near 180.
1 x M1T (60 Tablets) = $9.99
2 x 4Derm (4 oz) = $39.98
3 x Silymarin Milk Thistle Extract (120 Capsules/150mg) = $29.97
1 x USP Tamoxifen Citrate 60ml = $30.00
1 x USP Clomiphene Citrate 60ml = $25.00

total: $135 plus shipping from various places put me at 145

[AGGRESSIVEKUBA]

Great Info

[PunyKid]

I have a question. Why on the sample cycle posted, you have 40 mg of nolvadex ED for the first 2 weeks, but whenever on a regular cycle you take only 20 mg ED for 3 weeks? You understand what I'm saying? Why would you take more when using M1T and 4AD as opposed to taking real testoterone? It's my belief there's much more probabilty of aromitazation when using testosterone as opposed to M!T and 4AD.

[nsa]

10 pages... Sticky anyone.

[bigordie]

wow this thread has been around for a while...i second that, STICKY

[PunyKid]

Ahhh, so you drink the stuff....I see. I'm in business now. I just need to get my hands on some b5 vitamins and I can start my cycle. I'm gonna keep y'all posted as to my gains and any side effects. I plan on getting to 200. I weigh like 168 right now.

[birsling]

Good luck on your quest puny. It is going to take a lot of hard work, and more than one cycle of M1T to pack on 32lbm, but I wish you luck.

[DAMBIGlsu]

Just an FYI for anyone who cares. I have done 2 M-1-T cycles and my PCT has been different for each. First cycle I gained 17lbs. and kept 15lbs.(lost alil bf% too) on a 6-OXO and Tribulus PCT. Second cycle I gained about 14lbs. and gained another 2lbs. during a PCT of just clomid. Neither of my cycles I used 4-ad first I was slightly lethargic towards the end, second cycle it hit me after 1.5 weeks. Next cycle I am going to use a methyl 4-ad with the M-1-T and probably going to use a nolvedex, clomid, and possibly HCG PCT. Throwing the HCG in there just for fun. I read as much as I could on the post but must have missed the one thing I wanted some other oppions on. Do you think supplementing a tribulus supplement like Vitrix or something similar would help keep natural test levels from completely shutting down. I am not looking for it to keep me from becomeing lethargic just wondering if it would help towards the end. Had someone on another board tell me that taking Tribulus would make it harder to come back. I know a good bit so I didn't want to believe him without getting some other oppions.

Anything would be appreciated, thanks guys. Sorry if it was in here and I didn't see it.

[PunyKid]

Do y'all think it would be a good idea to take Finasteride while on M1T? I mean there is no doubt about it I have the genes for baldness, but I've taken Propecia for 6 months before and it did not help grow back any hair. However, I don't know if it would have prevented further hairloss if I would have been doing a cycle. Should I try it?

[birsling]

Do y'all think it would be a good idea to take Finasteride while on M1T? I mean there is no doubt about it I have the genes for baldness, but I've taken Propecia for 6 months before and it did not help grow back any hair. However, I don't know if it would have prevented further hairloss if I would have been doing a cycle. Should I try it?

I don't know if you should jump into Fina right now bro. Especially if you want to keep your hair. Did I miss your stats? Height, weight, history, etc?

[PunyKid]

I don't know if you should jump into Fina right now bro. Especially if you want to keep your hair. Did I miss your stats? Height, weight, history, etc?

I am not talking about Fina as in Finaplex or Tren. I am talking about Finasteride, the stuff that is similar to Propecia and is supposed to help stop the steroids from converting to DHT, and thus prevent hair loss. Does anybody know is it worth taking? Or, is it just a big waste of money?

[wired-up]

GQSuperman, check your PM's.

[GQSuperman]

would anyone else not recommend this? taking a methyl 4AD with M1T? seems like a lot of stress on the liver.

just wondered when i read this above.