HGH log for everyone!

[Hazard]

Thanks for the props mate - those abs took a LONG time to dig out - I used to be one FAT mama jamma! lol There's a thread in the members pics somewhere from 2004 that'll give you some idea, although I had already lost the vast majority of lard before the before pics!
I'm a little bit younger than you old war dogs, lol, I'm only 32 - good job I'm not a woman or you'd be BANG in trouble!
I live way down in the south west of england in cornwall.

you're an old war dog to me 26 here

Marcus is geriatric to me

j/k big guy!

~Haz~

[Fantomg]

Sorry - but the praise to those guys is for doing, not just saying. When I first got to this board, I got messages telling me how to lift and cycle etc. Some of it was in left field in my opinion. But I listened and was polite.... Then these folk would post a pic and were 150lbs soaking wet and looked like they not only didn't hit the weights, but didn't have a past that included even exercise!?!? - Sorry, not saying one can not have knowledge without looking the part, but when you see someone who's put their talk into proof and grinded their points into fact via the gym, ya command more respect, at least from myself. What looks good and makes sense on paper does NOT always mean it works in the gym. Originally for some reason, it was your guy's geographic location that I was blabbin about, but - Good job,to both of ya. Hope you always get the real deal because ya use it in practical application.

[BJJ]

So my wife is about to start tonight her cycle.

We decided she will run Somatrope (Pharma Grade) @ 1.5 iu ed, late evening shot, sub-q, along with 50 mcg of T4.

In 1 week we will know her somatotropin and somatomedin levels via blood work.

[Xtralarg]

So my wife is about to start tonight her cycle.

We decided she will run Somatrope (Pharma Grade) @ 1.5 iu ed, late evening shot, sub-q, along with 50 mcg of T4.

In 1 week we will know her somatotropin and somatomedin levels via blood work.

Is she excited about the results?

[BJJ]

Is she excited about the results?

Actually she is worried not to get the good results I got.

[Xtralarg]

Actually she is worried not to get the good results I got.

Im sure you will tell her that she has nothing to worry about! I think you will both be happy with the results.

[BJJ]

Im sure you will tell her that she has nothing to worry about! I think you will both be happy with the results.

We'll see

By the way, today I injected 17 iu of Hyge.
Hope to have something to tell you tomorrow.

[BJJ]

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That's why I started her with a pharma grade HGH, to make her feel more comfortable.

I went in a pharmacy that I know today along with the ampulla and they assured me it is PG Somatropin. This also explains the crazy price!

[BJJ]

^
Forgot, I wanted to feel the difference, if any, in comparison to the other brands I used so far.
I mean the reason for the 17 iu.

[Hazard]

I'm considering doing a "NotSmall" style blast...... just at 1/2 the dosage LMAO!

I've been on 8iu's now for about 8 months..... Thinking about starting 20iu's/day for 5 days tomorrow..... then bringing it back down to 8iu's for the remainder of the month.

I'll be starting test/tren/mast soon so i'd like to get the blast in before the cycle..... any thoughts?

~Haz~

[BJJ]

I'm considering doing a "NotSmall" style blast...... just at 1/2 the dosage LMAO!

I've been on 8iu's now for about 8 months..... Thinking about starting 20iu's/day for 5 days tomorrow..... then bringing it back down to 8iu's for the remainder of the month.

I'll be starting test/tren/mast soon so i'd like to get the blast in before the cycle..... any thoughts?

~Haz~

Well on holiday lastly I run 20 iu for more than a week and except some water retention I did not see any specific difference from 10 iu.
I slept the same, no CTS, more bloat which subsided after a few days.

I plan also to do a blast cycle one week before and one week during my next cycle but @ 40 iu ed for 14 days.

My theory is, if you want to do it, then do it deeply.
That's the way I am anyway lol...

[BignBig]

I'm considering doing a "NotSmall" style blast...... just at 1/2 the dosage LMAO!

I've been on 8iu's now for about 8 months..... Thinking about starting 20iu's/day for 5 days tomorrow..... then bringing it back down to 8iu's for the remainder of the month.

I'll be starting test/tren/mast soon so i'd like to get the blast in before the cycle..... any thoughts?

~Haz~

What type of results you achieved in 8iu over 8 months?

[Hazard]

What type of results you achieved in 8iu over 8 months?

It's helping me keep lean it seems but more importantly..... i've had some really nice upper chest growth which has ALWAYS been a huge problem area for me. Also my arms have gone from 17 1/4 to 18 1/4.

~Haz~

[marcus300]

It's helping me keep lean it seems but more importantly..... i've had some really nice upper chest growth which has ALWAYS been a huge problem area for me. Also my arms have gone from 17 1/4 to 18 1/4.
~Haz~

You got women arms Haz ahhhhhhh

[Hazard]

You got women arms Haz ahhhhhhh

LMAO! Man I already have a complex..... don't make it worse LOL!

I know i've asked you..... but how tall are you and what do you weigh? also.... arm size? Not that i'm comparing or anything lol

~Haz~

[BignBig]

It's helping me keep lean it seems but more importantly..... i've had some really nice upper chest growth which has ALWAYS been a huge problem area for me. Also my arms have gone from 17 1/4 to 18 1/4.

~Haz~

18 1/4 is impressive ... Well done

[BJJ]

Ok 2 things here:

1st
Since I am using rHGH (2.5 months) the size of my scrotum increased a lot as well as both testicles, especially the smallest between the two.

Yesterday evening I prepared the vial for the morning after and noticed, for the first time, that as soon as I started to inject the sterile water some powder just disappeared like it happens with HCG.

So, might it be I have HGH mixed with HCG?

I want to cut the head of the bull so next Friday I decided to check also my estrogens levels. In this regard what should I get tested for in order to exclude that I injected HCG?

Estrone, Estradiol, Estriol, Progesterone, Prolactin, or...?

2nd
Yesterday evening my wife took her first shot of rHGH pharma grade, 1.5 iu sub-q.
She told me this morning she slept amazingly but the point is she went back to sleep around noon and she is still deeply sleeping!!!

[Xtralarg]

Just get a pregnancy test to check for HCG.

It is good that your wife slept so well though

[BJJ]

Just get a pregnancy test to check for HCG.

It is good that your wife slept so well though

My wife used somatrope and not hyge.tropin

[Xtralarg]

My wife used somatrope and not hyge.tropin

Oh right, can you give her some hyge tonight and see how she sleeps?

[BJJ]

Oh right, can you give her some hyge tonight and see how she sleeps?

Do not know, she has fever now!

[BJJ]

Pregnancy test did not come out properly, I just lost 5 iu.
I will go for the BW.

[BJJ]

Quick update from my Hyge.tropin experience.

I jumped to 12 and 17 iu and noticed a little pang on both of my knees as well as pain in my sole feet. Is that happened to anyone?

Also, if I inject before bed I wake up ripped much much more.

[BJJ]

Oh and XL, this staff seems to be legit. Tomorrow anyway, we will know.

Also, I ordered Jin.tropin to compare with Hyge.tropin.

[Xtralarg]

Quick update from my Hyge.tropin experience.

I jumped to 12 and 17 iu and noticed a little pang on both of my knees as well as pain in my sole feet. Is that happened to anyone?

Also, if I inject before bed I wake up ripped much much more.

Oh and XL, this staff seems to be legit. Tomorrow anyway, we will know.

Also, I ordered Jin.tropin to compare with Hyge.tropin.

What makes you think it is real? Have you experienced those sides before?

[BJJ]

What makes you think it is real? Have you experienced those sides before?

No I did not that is why I was wondering.

Regarding the morning ABS, I had it also with the yellow tops but with this drug is more evident.

[Xtralarg]

No I did not that is why I was wondering.

Regarding the morning ABS, I had it also with the yellow tops but with this drug is more evident.

How are the sides?

How much have you had today?

[BJJ]

How are the sides?

How much have you had today?

Hands are less swollen but still I feel it.
Ankles are still pretty full.
Sole feet still hurt.
I had 9 iu today.

Tomorrow again 15 iu because I have my double blood work to take, 5 iu sub-q then 5 iu IM and 5 iu before bed.
I am sure there will be no surprise, this staff is good.

[paddy155]

Don't mean to go off track guy's edit cant openly ask for source, sorry marcus300

[Xtralarg]

This thread is going to become a DSM magnet!

[BJJ]

bump

[Xtralarg]

So BJJ, how are you today?

Are you still feeling like the rHGH is working its magic by the day?

[BJJ]

I am tired like if I am sick.
I just woke up I slept 2 hours.
This morning I went to get the BW, maybe 2 of them made tired, they sucked up 100 ml in 2 times.

[Xtralarg]

Sorry to hear that.

How did you feel before the blood was taken?

How are the sides?

[BJJ]

I woke up tired today, maybe because I woke up earlier.
The sides are still there, either hands, ankles and sole feet but my knees do not hurt anymore.

[Hazard]

So far i'm on day 2 of 20iu's..... No cts sides yet but my knees feel tired all frickin day long. Knuckles feel swollen too..... also..... i'm pretty tired all damn day long but it's hard to fall asleep at night. My last injection is 5iu's at around 8pm.

~Haz~

[BJJ]

^^^
I hope for the first option P3rf3ctionist.

[SuperBird]

Ive been surfin this forum for a very very long time. but today i post for the first time because i lost my original id and i think this HGH log is a good idea for a thread. its not quite thoroughly definitive yet but its surely on its way.

Ive been juicin for 20 years, and just this past month i took interest in HGH. And for as long as i been juicin it up, i made a rookies maneuver and purchased HGH before i did enough homework. Im pretty sure i wasted a few hundred dollars on green top 8iu's, enough for only three weeks even. which i have been doing at 4iu per day. the quality is there, just the amount is not. way too expensive to jump to 16iu per day. 4iu per day for only three weeks is quite a hefty bill its self.

Im 42, 243 pounds with a thick stomach (always temporary when bulking). i am fortunate in the fact that my body hyper-responds to any diet i implement. if i want to be 60 pounds heavier in muscle in three months i can do it easy, and if i want to be skinny i can do that as well. im just fortunate in my genetic body response. its freakish really.

my deal is fina and test. thats what my body loves. but.. after starting my HGH and reading this thread. it seems that the consensus is that it basically takes 16iu 4days on 2 days off repeating to get significant anabolic gains..... and thats AFTER 7 months of use. and that anything less is decent for fat loss and the secondary youth effects. its my opinion that for hundreds of dollars less per month i can utilize clenbuterol, L-Carnatine, cardio and a decent diet to shed fat. ive been doing the 4iu for three weeks now along with proviron in a mix with my test enanthe 250 every 2 days and my fat is coming off not so dramatically. and i use plenty of clen and carnatine. 4 tabs of clen and 2 caps of carnatine at cardio time. so if im not going to see gains, it has been less than exciting performance for what i paid for a months worth. *** what i have certainly noticed immediately on HGH is swollen oily glands on both sides of the nose and terribly tired daily. i did start out with headaches but that went away after couple days. just mostly oily facial skin and severe sleepiness. maybe another month and the fat loss is more impressive, but i dont want to invest another couple hundred for that lone benefit. also, maybe its just that im not on the nolvadex but my frontal hair loss is also at defcon 4. but the past couple years, my pct has been garbage. ive suffered lots of side effects but not so radical, crap that just comes with age. except that fina dick crap, i hate that. i hear about caber but i dont know where to get it, (i wish a little birdy would send me a message and save my day) i hear good things about it.

anyhow....
im 43 (next week) in todays world thats still a puppy. i know 70yr olds pumped on gear.
243 pounds
thick stomach/gut
lifter for 20 years
currently the past month...
test enanthe 300 every 2 days - knowing all UG lab products boast more mg than it actually has by 30 percent.
HGH 1 morning shot of 4iu, four days on and 2 days off - 4 days on 2 days off....
proviron 1 tab daily - for synergistic mechanism between HGH and Testosterone. should have t4 but dont. knowing t4 converts to t3, but i have none.
1 spoon creatine mono daily
4 40mcg tabs twice daily of clenbuterol (9am and 3pm) every other day,... let the heart relax.
2 500 mg caps of L-Carnatine half hour before cardio every other day (3 day a week). i believe jay cutler uses 3 caps half hour before cardio.
200 to 250 or more grams protein: consisting of- canned tuna and chicken breast and protein powder each day. red meat is hard to get where im at.
water, coke zero, 100 percent pure fresh orange juice, propel orange and milk are my only liquids most often. unless you know of buko juice.
no fried food. regular minimal daily greens and cup of rice each day. no white bread. few few few carbs. pasta once a week. wheat bread only.
(***i do put mayonnaise in my tuna - lots !!!! go ahead... throw rocks at me) but its absolutely my only fat intake. tuna/mayo/sugarless wheat bread. do what ya gotta do.

my body size is down because i was hospitalized but im back in the gym now.
this past three weeks my shoulders and arms and chest have bulked back up yet my weight remained at 243, so its safe to say i lost 10 pounds at least because as well my stomach has sunken in on the sides. But after this three weeks, how much was credited to the HGH? i dont know, because i can do this on juice only with test 300. so to me, i wonder if the HGH is even worth it if your not doing 16iu per day. my fat loss has not been fantastic compared to any year of training before this month. i actually look forward to coming off GH so my skin will dry up around my nose and i get my full days energy back.

now as i said earlier about fina and test. I WILL put on 20 pounds of solid muscle per month on fina and test enanthe each month with substantial fat loss. so why do i consider the HGH? for ten times the price? i dont know what i was thinking. i dont know if its worth 600 hundred bucks a month to lose minor crows feet around the eyes. and test itself will roll the fat off if you have a good diet.

after this cycle i will post what i got out of the HGH for the rookie users who walk behind me (in a much shorter post ).

this is a great thread and im glad to see it. but it will be better when it developes its short list of certainties in a sticky. for example...

what i think ive learned and each rookie should know. quickly correct what im wrong about.....

1. for substantially noticeable anabolic gains HGH 16iu daily will need to be done for 7 months along with proviron and a form of Testosterone.
2. anything less than 8iu daily will most likely be a waste for the novice or even intermediate without a STRICT diet regimen. lousy diet will just destroy the GH fat burning process leaving lousy anabolic performance from only 8iu.
3. 4iu daily will pretty much be of weight loss value only and long term benefit at that, maybe five months at least. and not fantastically impressive. especially if its rookie body building diet.....(sluffing down a cheese burger here and there).

^^^^ if those things were stickied in an HGH post.... i wouldnt have bought the kit i did. but live, read, and learn. (or lose bucks on your own)

im thoroughly experienced in all juices, but this round with HGH is my first. i hope we can all share some excellent info in this thread, and please without hesitance correct any of my wrongs, and enlighten me where you can.

I have six months of fina just staring me in the face here, but i get severely depressed when i use it because of the limpdick trauma. i really want on it as soon as this cycle of HGH is over, but i cry thinking about it. (oh how i wish i could find some caber i want to try that stuff so bad). im just now recovering from fina limpdick trauma from four months ago, i had no pct fixer. so i hate the thought of going through it again. and so does my girl.

dont give me too hard of a time..... im just trying to be productive here and give what i can ya know. i hope i offered something creative in some way.


*** oh, and also... for the past month, i have to get up and pee every half hour of the night. GRRRRRRRRR !!!! i hate that.

[BJJ]

^^^
You had something to write about lol...

4 Questions:

1. What is the name of the green tops you used? (remember not to mention any source)
2. Why are you using that amount of proteins? 1 g per pound
3. Why did not you take into account T4?
4. Any blood work to share?

By the way, welcome to the forum.

[SuperBird]

^^^
You had something to write about lol...

4 Questions:

1. What is the name of the green tops you used? (remember not to mention any source)
2. Why are you using that amount of proteins? 1 g per pound
3. Why did not you take into account T4?
4. Any blood work to share?

By the way, welcome to the forum.

haha, yea i do like to be thorough.

1. (wont let me put a name). Lets just say it starts with H. comes from china. has verification number. tops are actually turquoise. (can i give price?).
2. I think i misled you in protein grms in the wording so i edited it. Im spending some time in asia right now, so canned tuna, native chicken breast and protein shakes is all the quality protein i can get. combined daily is 200 to 250 grms protein daily. but sometimes i end up with more protein daily just because of hunger. i might eat another can of tuna and half loaf of wheat bread before bed.
3. I didnt take the T4 because i had everything else already, and i couldnt locate any T4. and i didnt have enough posts here to privately request a source. so I went on without it.
4. as far as bloodwork, i went into the hospital to get the blood drawn for the work, and the bill was 200 dollars. man, i wasnt prepared for that, so i said lets hold off on that until i have it on me next time. i had only 120 bucks with me that day and thought that would cover it.
that blood work is really important to monitor for sure, its nice to know why certain things are happening in the body and where to make changes.

Thanks......