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    Quote Originally Posted by bjpennnn View Post
    anyone have any feedback on riptropins are the gtg?
    I tried two different batches of rips and got nothing but bloat from both. IGF-1 went up only nominally at 6IU/day on the first batch, and actually went down on the 2nd batch. My source refunded most of my money thankfully. I'm done with HGH until such a time that I can afford US pharm grade. Chinese HGH = junk IMO.

    And I have yet to see bloodwork posted by those claiming that Chinese HGH is awesome.

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    Came to the conclusion that my chinese hgh black tops was some sort of an anti-estrogen compound. Acne exploded, water loss in muscles and sub q, headaches, and I have not felt very good either (unable to workout with motivation) - idk if that is related. Got to be an anti estrogen. I can't think of any other explanation.

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    badger milk ^^^

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    i heard after one hour of pin

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    There is a site that buyers award Chinese sellers "reputation points". Seems to be a good way to pick a good source.

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    There is a site that buyers award Chinese sellers "reputation points". Seems to be a good way to pick a good source.
    It's not reliable.
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    Come on, you posted white powder in bottles with green tops, impossible to say but the % would be high that is contains crap or fake. Dont watse your time and money on rubbish like this buy pharm grade.

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    I can't say if your source is good, but those vials look like genuine HGH. If you don't know your source, then you may want to seriously consider Marcus' advice.

    A scammer can put HGC in a vial, which looks like HGH. You can test your product with a birth control test strip and that will reveal if you've got HGC. You can take IGF-1 blood tests, which will tell you whether your HGH is genuine. You can get good Chinese HGH, if you're dealing with a reputable source.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimInAK View Post
    I can't say if your source is good, but those vials look like genuine HGH. If you don't know your source, then you may want to seriously consider Marcus' advice.

    A scammer can put HGC in a vial, which looks like HGH. You can test your product with a birth control test strip and that will reveal if you've got HGC. You can take IGF-1 blood tests, which will tell you whether your HGH is genuine. You can get good Chinese HGH, if you're dealing with a reputable source.
    Ya they can put anything in call it hgh... I saw someone on another board praising the effects of hgh and how he didnt know if it was a side effect but he was getting noticeably darker... he said people around him were asking if he was tanning... dude was sold some melanotan. You can get an IGF-1 blood test but that wont determine whether you were given ghrp-6 or hgh both increase your IGF-1 level. HCG is easy to spot with a prego test... the others I mentioned, not so much.

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    I dont know how you could possibly tell if chinese hgh is good or fake as all the different makes are the same vials with no/different labels stuck on them that we could all get made up at any printers. The vials are not made by the hgh manufacturers but bought wholesale and could be bought by anyone. Most sources are just middle men and just pass on the orders to the manufacturers who either send out direct or back to the source for remail. Unless you actually know the person who runs/owns the factory you will never know whether its real/fake/underdosed or full of other nasties we dont know about. The pictures above just look like standard blues or greens readily bought from many places. I have used ansomone /blues /greens for the last 4 years and now have just started saizen so lets see if pharma is much different !

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    Great thread Marcus,

    I was discussing this with a friend last night; he was saying how a guy he knew at the gym was selling growth cheap. I told him to be careful because cheap often equals fake. As far as detecting fakes from label quality, holograms etc. that may be a great technique for AAS being sold by UGLs operated out of garages, on a full scale counterfeiting operation like you generally see in china they have the resources in place to easily fake all of that stuff. They often spend millions on a plant to make billions, remember the fake "Big Berthas" that were coming out a few years back? PGA players could not tell they were fake till they hit a ball.
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    please read the rule, marcus

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    I've spoken to the seller for quite some time now and everything seems to be legite. I've ordered and received 100iu of those green tops which I posted, i'll get it tested to find out for sure!
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    let us know how you are going to get it tested. Many have tried all i believe have failed!

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    Where are you going to get it tested?
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    Well I've been on hyge 8 iu tops for almost 3 months now and they are comparable to the original jins. I have used brown, blue, red tops since then and they weren't close.

    As rodge had mentioned , I to believe the raws from over seas are garbage also. We have no way of testing a y more. I had all my ugl gear tested back in the day and the gear wAs so much better then. I just started to get the " feel " of my gear again since turning to hg.

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    I've done the pregnancy test and it came out negative, thus it is not HCG. I have started taking the HGH Green Tops and already have experienced the vivid dreams associated with HGH. So far, so good........

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    Riptropin's...

    Who has used them? There getting good reports over at PM... Constantly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto View Post
    Riptropin's...

    Who has used them? There getting good reports over at PM... Constantly.
    I think that notsmall was using them at a dosage of 30-40 iu's ed just before he went missing in action, presumed dead! Enough said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto View Post
    Riptropin's...

    Who has used them? There getting good reports over at PM... Constantly.
    I am on these atm. I am at 5ius ed. noticing all the normal sides. way more vivid dreams, sleepy, and i think a little fat loss. been on since sept 29. Plan on staying on for a year but i think i am going to go with the 10ius eod protocol for a while in a few weeks.

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    ^^^ Sad thing is that could well be true.....
    Do not ask me for a source check.






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    Rips are crap like most gh from China

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    Hi guys, can anyone tell if they have or know about HGH Scitropin A, it is pharm grade from the doctor, just want to know if its a good sort of HGH please, any help would be great, Thx

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    by the way i would be interested to hear any other feedback that anyone has on rips

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    ^^^ read the whole thread it may just open your eyes

    If your happy you carry on taking it, best of luck

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    I'm on riptropin's as we speak.

    gained about 3lbs in about 1-2 weeks from starting. my first time using gh.

    I feel a little stiff all over, get good pumps at the gym. I do sleep well, but I always do so...
    I dont have tingeling in my hands or anything. hard to say I feel anything exept the pumps, and stiffness.

    dont really know if its good or not. but I do get a little bloated over the day, and next morning im slim again
    I take it in the morning when I wake up, 4ius at once.
    now I'm trying 6iu's EOD. see how that feels.

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    I think after all is said and done, chineese gh is hit or miss. I tried pharm grade serostim many years ago and was only able to take 1 iu per day due to my wrist pain flaring up to the point I could not lift. It was that strong! I tried ********** later on and was able to take 8ius with only minor wrist pain on occasion. Took blue tops from same source I got hyges from and got nothing whatsover out of them.

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    Would you conclude that the branded GH you used (which is ******* ??) was roughly 8 times as less potent?

    Were results from 1 IU of Pharm grade compairable to 8IU of china branded stuff


    I would think that some of the branded GH would be 100%

    I mean, a good product sells well, much better than an underdosed product

    Are we saying that even the well established brands are bunk???

    Why would they make a product that is not what it says it is

    Sure they can make money by scamming people or even underdosing the GH (8 times under), bu IMO this makes no buisness sence...

    If Some company in china could make 100% GH as good as US Pharm Grade for half the price why would they not do this?

    The problem is that no one can afford Pharm grade GH, so people will always go to china

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    They can bottle whatever they want and make money for two reasons. One, there is someone new who reads about hgh everyday and do enough reading to get it but not see threads like this.

    Two and more importantly; it's a hormone that is slowwwwww to kick in. Six months is the suggested time to see and feel true results. Just the beginning. So now that means a true run is at least a year long. Anyone who has purchased hgh knows that's a good chunk of money.

    After six months ifnothing has happened people will suggest to give it more time. Or up the dose. And the results aren't as heavy as an aas cycle where you know your on something.

    So IMO it's the actual compound and how it works that allows it to be sold with little regard. It could be fake and someone could get on it and diet accordingly and contribute the slow weight loss to the hgh when it is actually from their increase of cardio and working out.

    It makes sense to sell bunk in this situation. No one knows the difference. No one can test it, and it costs nothing compared to actually manufacturing real ugh which is reportedly pricey.

    I stopped my hgh a while ago. I'm on a test prop cycle and already have double the results of hgh at a fraction of the cost. Hgh only makes sense if u have a legit pharm grade source and you are in a sport that tests for aas. Even if u are older there is no reason for hgh when u can cruise on a testosterone replacement therapy dose of test just as easily with wayyyy less pinning and a tiny fraction of the cost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baseline_9 View Post
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    would you conclude that the branded gh you used (which is ******* ??) was roughly 8 times as less potent?not the ********** i tried but yes for the blue tops (big difference between those two brands but that does not apply to all sources of blue tops i suppose)were results from 1 iu of pharm grade compairable to 8iu of china branded stuff no, i would say the serostim (pharm grade) was almost twice as potent as the hyges and 8 times more potent than the blues. Something in that ball park is what i experienced but I cannot say for certain that the serostim was a lot better than the legit hyges looking back on things. It could be psychological but my wrist did hurt a lot more on phram grade
    i would think that some of the branded gh would be 100% if that be the case, and it very well could be, then someone is sure making a ton of money selling gh!i mean, a good product sells well, much better than an underdosed product true
    are we saying that even the well established brands are bunk???the hyges i used were good so i am of the opinion that all chineese gh is not rubbish but like marcus stated, there's certainly appears to be plenty of rubbish gh coming out of china. I know the blue tops were a joke!
    why would they make a product that is not what it says it is i think the scammers have figured out a way to do it but think about this for a moment- most of the legit powder that's being used to make ug steroids these days comes from china and we know some of it is very high quaility so i am led to believe some of the gh from china is also high quality. Not that i am going against what marcus says because i value his opinion dearly. I'm just speaking my mind on what i have seen and heard. It's hard to put it all into perspective but some of the stuff coming from china is good. I think we have to give them that credit but there is bad coming from there as well.sure they can make money by scamming people or even underdosing the gh (8 times under), bu imo this makes no buisness sence...no it doesn't but it does happen because it happened to me with blue tops but who knows if they even came from china!?if some company in china could make 100% gh as good as us pharm grade for half the price why would they not do this? i agree!the problem is that no one can afford pharm grade gh, so people will always go to china that appears to be the case with many things as china pretty much owns the u.s., etc these days.
    above in bold

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland View Post
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    Thanks for your responces Ronnie


    I can see why generic blue tops would be complete rubbish,, if u make a good product you want ur name on it, who wants there brand name related to sh1t gear...


    My opinion would be that 'Brands' that have been around for a while are producing good GH...

    Note the word 'Brand' and not 'source'

    If Brand 'A' from china is begining to get good reviews from users across the world the next thing to happen will be 'sources' counterfiting and selling there generic Blue top sh1t as brand 'A' GH

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    Quote Originally Posted by baseline_9 View Post
    Thanks for your responces Ronnie


    I can see why generic blue tops would be complete rubbish,, if u make a good product you want ur name on it, who wants there brand name related to sh1t gear...


    My opinion would be that 'Brands' that have been around for a while are producing good GH...

    Note the word 'Brand' and not 'source'

    If Brand 'A' from china is begining to get good reviews from users across the world the next thing to happen will be 'sources' counterfiting and selling there generic Blue top sh1t as brand 'A' GH
    Yes, I believe you just have to make sure you are not geting a counterfeited brand name. For example; the hyges I used were good but there are fake hyges as well. People talk about the pinwheel versions of hyges being fake. And having a reliable source will help.

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    hello, my buddy was e-mailing every company trying to get a direct hook. some guy got back to him and says he worked for the company that makes all the gh in china and distributes to all the others. he sold us alpha-gen no lables. top has the proper sighn. cheap cheap. i got the first kit . started at 2iu the 3iu. my hands are numb alot. i am leaner after 3 weeks. it is cheap enough to run a high dose. i just ordered some igf-1 from the same guy. if i run to mg straight at 50 mcg. i shgould know right. thanks for any info. everything else checks out reconstitutes over 60 seconds.

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    marcus is just a little out of his mind, we keep telling him that we tried good chinese gh and he keep stating his BS, i always say there are bad chinese products, jintropin was bad chinese product, it was faked alot and even the original was just not it, made you gain lots of water without the desired effect, kigtropin on the other hand that few here have used is as good as serostim, im very sorry but if a guy goes from 13% down to 8-9% and add 10 pounds to his frame in that same period of time while making it look twice as big volume wise...that to me says it all!

    less than 40 freaking days since gh added KIGTROPIN and its a different physiqe. the water retention subsided week 3, i am telling you here on this board that marcus should be taken off his moderator status, im not going to talk to admin about it since im too busy to worry about anabolic review...but if you want to have any cred as a board you should take the moderator status from this guy.

    he has officially showed it due to HIS bad experience with products. i kept saying gh from china is good and bad depending who you get it from, he kept saying its all rubbish, he is wrong, i am right, i am right because every single vet in this community can tell you that im right, including all the SERIOUS BIG SOURCES,

    if you think that the sources im talking about will sell fake gh marcus....you are out of your mind, im talking here the biggest sources in the game which you most likley have no idea who they are no matter how long you been a mod on steroid.com

    you all do what you want guys, but i assure you if you try 1 kit good china gh, you will see it is pretty much equivalent to american gh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mighty1 View Post
    marcus is just a little out of his mind, we keep telling him that we tried good chinese gh and he keep stating his BS, i always say there are bad chinese products, jintropin was bad chinese product, it was faked alot and even the original was just not it, made you gain lots of water without the desired effect, kigtropin on the other hand that few here have used is as good as serostim, im very sorry but if a guy goes from 13% down to 8-9% and add 10 pounds to his frame in that same period of time while making it look twice as big volume wise...that to me says it all!

    less than 40 freaking days since gh added KIGTROPIN and its a different physiqe. the water retention subsided week 3, i am telling you here on this board that marcus should be taken off his moderator status, im not going to talk to admin about it since im too busy to worry about anabolic review...but if you want to have any cred as a board you should take the moderator status from this guy.

    he has officially showed it due to HIS bad experience with products. i kept saying gh from china is good and bad depending who you get it from, he kept saying its all rubbish, he is wrong, i am right, i am right because every single vet in this community can tell you that im right, including all the SERIOUS BIG SOURCES,

    if you think that the sources im talking about will sell fake gh marcus....you are out of your mind, im talking here the biggest sources in the game which you most likley have no idea who they are no matter how long you been a mod on steroid.com

    you all do what you want guys, but i assure you if you try 1 kit good china gh, you will see it is pretty much equivalent to american gh.
    how the hell can anyone tell from just one kit?! go on, explain? thats just another big hole in your bullshit rantings. i have a ex colleague ( a top personal trainer) who was getting lilly humatrope gh straight from a medical rep (client), he used 4iu's pd for 17mths and only noticed diff at around 3mths in. i for one have had nothing but sterling advice from marcus from day one on this forum, neva gone more than 12hrs without a reply from him on advice ive needed, he's told me when to go for it and talked me down from other ideas ive had. that speaks volumes of knowledge and experience, you on the other hand seem to have not much more than a hidden agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    how the hell can anyone tell from just one kit?! go on, explain? thats just another big hole in your bullshit rantings. i have a ex colleague ( a top personal trainer) who was getting lilly humatrope gh straight from a medical rep (client), he used 4iu's pd for 17mths and only noticed diff at around 3mths in. i for one have had nothing but sterling advice from marcus from day one on this forum, neva gone more than 12hrs without a reply from him on advice ive needed, he's told me when to go for it and talked me down from other ideas ive had. that speaks volumes of knowledge and experience, you on the other hand seem to have not much more than a hidden agenda.
    there is no hidden agenda, if you were a BB which i AM, you would know how legit gh works, you would know the changes with legit gh are on daily basis from the moment its being injected into the blood, you would also know that after 30 days on gh (considering you have test, tren, eq ect in system for quite some time) you will see significant difference in lean muscle mass, you will be leaner and get larger within those 30 days to a very noticable level, and thereafter you will only grow bigger and better and leaner down to the 6-7% level while not losing even a pd. it will actually be the opposite...you will gain weight/size while reducing bf at the same time,

    there is no hidden agenda, there is ONLY the truth, i dont like many chinese gh, i didnt like jins, i didnt like many blue tops i thought they were rubbish, but kigs, thanktropin, and the brown tops from back in 2005-2006 are legit gh equivalent to american gh, its the right of EVERYONE to know it, and the right of everyone to use it.

    1 kit of hgh, if you know your BB will tell you very fast that you are dealing with legit gh, you will know it because you will see changes mainly in how your body gets leaner and the skin become paper thin while muscle pushes out, you will see it within 30 days clearly, and therefor will order more, like thousands of BBS around the world do,

    remember, i did not say every china gh is legit, i said few are, i didnt say china is the center for hgh magic, i said china has a number of LABS and yes they are LABS that produce legit gh. every vet in the game can tell you that, every vet in the game will not care to tell you that because for them you are just another newbe with 10k posts who is 20 something and decided he is a BB 3 years ago,

    listen bud, you can tell from the way i write i wasnt born yesterday in this game, i been around forever, i know what im talking about because while 75% of you were getting into highschool i was already deep in the aas and related hormones world, hands on, years over years of hands on and 24/7 being a BB.

    ask around alittle, not about mighty1, mighty1 is just a name, ask around from guys who actually make their living off BB, they will confirm every single word i say, reason they wont be here is because they couldnt care less if you are helped or not, they want more for themselves, more kigs for them means they go big and you stay in lala land

    this is really really stupid of me to even come here argue that, i should just let you play around with your own shit, i actually thought to myself...why not i been on that anabolicreview boards for many years, i can give those up and coming BBS some help, i forgot who im dealing with here and what era you belong to,

    forget what i said listen to marcus...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mighty1 View Post
    there is no hidden agenda, if you were a BB which i AM, you would know how legit gh works, you would know the changes with legit gh are on daily basis from the moment its being injected into the blood, you would also know that after 30 days on gh (considering you have test, tren, eq ect in system for quite some time) you will see significant difference in lean muscle mass, you will be leaner and get larger within those 30 days to a very noticable level, and thereafter you will only grow bigger and better and leaner down to the 6-7% level while not losing even a pd. it will actually be the opposite...you will gain weight/size while reducing bf at the same time,

    there is no hidden agenda, there is ONLY the truth, i dont like many chinese gh, i didnt like jins, i didnt like many blue tops i thought they were rubbish, but kigs, thanktropin, and the brown tops from back in 2005-2006 are legit gh equivalent to american gh, its the right of EVERYONE to know it, and the right of everyone to use it.

    1 kit of hgh, if you know your BB will tell you very fast that you are dealing with legit gh, you will know it because you will see changes mainly in how your body gets leaner and the skin become paper thin while muscle pushes out, you will see it within 30 days clearly, and therefor will order more, like thousands of BBS around the world do,

    remember, i did not say every china gh is legit, i said few are, i didnt say china is the center for hgh magic, i said china has a number of LABS and yes they are LABS that produce legit gh. every vet in the game can tell you that, every vet in the game will not care to tell you that because for them you are just another newbe with 10k posts who is 20 something and decided he is a BB 3 years ago,

    listen bud, you can tell from the way i write i wasnt born yesterday in this game, i been around forever, i know what im talking about because while 75% of you were getting into highschool i was already deep in the aas and related hormones world, hands on, years over years of hands on and 24/7 being a BB.

    ask around alittle, not about mighty1, mighty1 is just a name, ask around from guys who actually make their living off BB, they will confirm every single word i say, reason they wont be here is because they couldnt care less if you are helped or not, they want more for themselves, more kigs for them means they go big and you stay in lala land

    this is really really stupid of me to even come here argue that, i should just let you play around with your own shit, i actually thought to myself...why not i been on that anabolicreview boards for many years, i can give those up and coming BBS some help, i forgot who im dealing with here and what era you belong to,

    forget what i said listen to marcus...
    Just out of curiosity, what are your stats?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mighty1 View Post
    there is no hidden agenda, if you were a BB which i AM, you would know how legit gh works, you would know the changes with legit gh are on daily basis from the moment its being injected into the blood, you would also know that after 30 days on gh (considering you have test, tren, eq ect in system for quite some time) you will see significant difference in lean muscle mass, you will be leaner and get larger within those 30 days to a very noticable level, and thereafter you will only grow bigger and better and leaner down to the 6-7% level while not losing even a pd. it will actually be the opposite...you will gain weight/size while reducing bf at the same time,

    there is no hidden agenda, there is ONLY the truth, i dont like many chinese gh, i didnt like jins, i didnt like many blue tops i thought they were rubbish, but kigs, thanktropin, and the brown tops from back in 2005-2006 are legit gh equivalent to american gh, its the right of EVERYONE to know it, and the right of everyone to use it.

    1 kit of hgh, if you know your BB will tell you very fast that you are dealing with legit gh, you will know it because you will see changes mainly in how your body gets leaner and the skin become paper thin while muscle pushes out, you will see it within 30 days clearly, and therefor will order more, like thousands of BBS around the world do,

    remember, i did not say every china gh is legit, i said few are, i didnt say china is the center for hgh magic, i said china has a number of LABS and yes they are LABS that produce legit gh. every vet in the game can tell you that, every vet in the game will not care to tell you that because for them you are just another newbe with 10k posts who is 20 something and decided he is a BB 3 years ago,

    listen bud, you can tell from the way i write i wasnt born yesterday in this game, i been around forever, i know what im talking about because while 75% of you were getting into highschool i was already deep in the aas and related hormones world, hands on, years over years of hands on and 24/7 being a BB.

    ask around alittle, not about mighty1, mighty1 is just a name, ask around from guys who actually make their living off BB, they will confirm every single word i say, reason they wont be here is because they couldnt care less if you are helped or not, they want more for themselves, more kigs for them means they go big and you stay in lala land

    this is really really stupid of me to even come here argue that, i should just let you play around with your own shit, i actually thought to myself...why not i been on that anabolicreview boards for many years, i can give those up and coming BBS some help, i forgot who im dealing with here and what era you belong to,

    forget what i said listen to marcus...
    what kind of conceited asshole are you? seriousily fvck off and get a life you cretin, i only hope no one is stupid enough to be scammed by you. why isnt this TWAT banned? its so obvious

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    Mighty1, Your full of shit and talk total bollocks. You got banned from OLM for bullshitting and sprouting your stupid lies, do you really think our members are going to listen to such bull. You have no idea what your talking about or doing.

    If your so happy with china gh stay with it but stop trying to push it all over this board, state your opinion but for god sake stop trying to promote this crap all the time, everyone can see through you.

    Your known for your bullshit, you got banned for your bullshit, so stop your bullshitting around here you lying fool.

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