HCG: Why you should use it on-cycle only & how to prepare your hCG for injections

[AR's King Silabolin]

but im only doing 5000 IU spread out for two weeks....1250 x 4 should be just as fine as your 250 x 2 for 12 weeks when it comes to desensitizition.
Or thats what i think. Hcg never been my cup of tea and my knowledge is nothing to write home about.

[charger69]

but im only doing 5000 IU spread out for two weeks....1250 x 4 should be just as fine as your 250 x 2 for 12 weeks when it comes to desensitizition. Or thats what i think. Hcg never been my cup of tea and my knowledge is nothing to write home about.

Silabon- i will provide my thoughts.... Would you use that same thought process for a cycle? Instead of 12 weeks let's take it in two? Better yet, let's use a hard drug as an example. Your heart will be able to take a certain qty of coke, try taking it all at once and you have just overburdened your heart and it will stop. Same principle.
I will never claim to be the expert at anything on this forum. There are much more knowledgeable people then myself. I am just providing my reasoning and beliefs.

[AR's King Silabolin]

I read you. I know 500 a week is far far better but this time i have deceided to run it just the two last weeks.

And i have just 1 cc of it and splitting it more than 4, will be too tecnically.
And my LH is zero now nevertheless.

[vulfor]

On a test only 12 week cycle, would it be beneficial to use 750 (3x250) iu of hcg instead of 500 every week assuming the rest is thrown in trash? (if its refrigerated in ba water it only lasts for 2 months?)

[DocToxin8]

And Sil:
If you only got one 5000u amp of hCG, then yeah, you could use it all spaced out in 4 injects (over 10 days, which i would say is ok with sterile water)
Your leydig cells won't be damaged by that, but your E2 might increase much.
However, your point about not having any LH anyways is flawed,
as LH is secreted from your pituitary/brain, while the leydig cells are in your testes/balls. Your brain might never secrete enough LH to keep a normal test level again, but your leydig cells/balls might be able to produce enough test if you use hCG or HMG correctly.

[DocToxin8]

This is what my specialist says regarding hCG (and I trust him, treated a lot of bodybuilders).

When using 5000u amps of hCG, and you only have sterile 0,9% NaCl water,
mix it and divide 250u to max 500u into three insulin syringes.
Throw away the rest of the hCG.
Use 250u to max 500u x3 weekly.

(The point about throwing the extra hCG away is up to you,
He's a doctor and won't risk his patients injecting hCG with bacteria,
how long you can actually get away with storing hCG in pre filled insulin syringes, without BA, that's up to each and everyone)

Silabolin: when you mix hCG with oil (didn't you mix it with water first?)
then I'd guess the hCG could precipitate, at least if you dont mix it with water first. This is probably harmless, but if it causes the hCG to change its tertiary structure (folding) then it might be rendered inactive.
However, if the hCG remains intact in oil only, there's also another issue, namely that you might have changed the rate of absorption.
(Probably delaying its release)
To test if the hCG is active at all this way,
you could buy a pregnancy test and use it.
If you're pregnant then it's active.
If you get a sensitive pregnancy test (or several)
and use them at a fixed time (12h f ex) after the same dose of hCG,
One time with oil, one time with water, then you could teach us all something new.

[unckle]

So if i want to know if HCG is really HCG can I test it before I inject it? When people talk about a pregnancy test am I putting the HCG on it or am I pissing on it after an injection? I'm new to this whole thing and I apologize up front if this is a stupid question. I also tried to read through this string on this original post but I glaze over because its so long...again apologize if I missed something.

[The Deadlifting Dog]

So if i want to know if HCG is really HCG can I test it before I inject it? When people talk about a pregnancy test am I putting the HCG on it or am I pissing on it after an injection? I'm new to this whole thing and I apologize up front if this is a stupid question. I also tried to read through this string on this original post but I glaze over because its so long...again apologize if I missed something.

put about 250ius of the hCG directly onto the pregnancy test

[unckle]

Thanks, Dog. I did exactly that. First HcG I bought was bunk and I thought I did the test wrong. Went to a different source and their HcG tested good. So I'm more knowledgeable now.... lol

[zigzagzig]

Hey guys, my HCG (powder) came in two ampoules containing 5000iu each and I would like some input on how to store and manage it for a 12-week Test E cycle. I have one vial of 15ml of Bac water. As I can't store the mix on the ampoule, I am considering:

0) Freeze one ampoule
1) Break the other ampoule containing HCG powder
2) Draw 2ml of Bac water in a syringe and pour it on the broken ampoule with HCG
3) Mix (how?)
4) Using a syringe, draw the mixture and insert it on a sterilized empty vial
5) Store the vial in the fridge and use it to pin twice a week for the first 6 weeks
6) At the end of the 6th week, bring the frozen ampoule to the frigde and repeat steps 1 to 5.

Does this sound like a good plan to you?

[zigzagzig]

I'd really appreciate if someone could help me on how to handle HCG in ampoules.

[cousinmuscles]

Your steps are correct. HCG dissolves very quickly I have done 5000 iu in 1ml several times even but do 2ml to be safe. Just roll the amp with your fingers.

[zigzagzig]

Your steps are correct. HCG dissolves very quickly I have done 5000 iu in 1ml several times even but do 2ml to be safe. Just roll the amp with your fingers.

Thanks, I'll do that. I'm starting my cycle in about two weeks. I will create a new thread later one.

[zigzagzig]

I got my HCG today and I performed two distinct pregnancy tests using some drops from it. In both cases the results showed NO pregnancy. With this information, should I toss it away?

[Maxgonzo]

"HCG is not as "fragile" as most of us are led to believe. If you prefer to minimize injections, you can combine your steroid compounds with hCG into the same syringe and inject. The only real way to destroy hCG is by freezing and thawing pre-loaded/premixed syringes, as the ice crystals tend to destroy the proteins. If you decide to freeze your mixed hCG, be sure not to re-freeze it, ever."

Sorry if someone else answered this later down the thread - but if I reconstitute, then freeze the remainder, is it ok to thaw out what I need for the week or will freezing it destroy the potency of the HCG? Or does the above comment mean that I shouldn't freeze, thaw, and then re-freeze?

[Vinnie214]

question, must I really 100% use insulin syringes for hcg or can I use my regular ones with a 25g needle for intramuscular injection?

[charger69]

question, must I really 100% use insulin syringes for hcg or can I use my regular ones with a 25g needle for intramuscular injection?

Your getting it!
You can use the 25 g. HCG is water based and some say not to mix water and oil. I mix my hCG with the AAS. I have never had problems. I also make mine more concentrated so it is very little that I am injecting to get the 250.


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[Vinnie214]

Your getting it!
You can use the 25 g. HCG is water based and some say not to mix water and oil. I mix my hCG with the AAS. I have never had problems. I also make mine more concentrated so it is very little that I am injecting to get the 250.


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Okay that's good, saves me a bit of money. If you mix it with an oil based compound like test, wouldn't that make it really thick and hard to draw-pin into a 25g or am I wrong?

Thanks

[The Deadlifting Dog]

Okay that's good, saves me a bit of money. If you mix it with an oil based compound like test, wouldn't that make it really thick and hard to draw-pin into a 25g or am I wrong?

Thanks

Vinnie, you still need bac water.
You don't mix the oil with the hCG powder.
You mix bac water with the hCG.

Once the hCG is prepared you can then draw both the AAS and the hCG into the same syringe.

[charger69]

Vinnie, you still need bac water.
You don't mix the oil with the hCG powder.
You mix bac water with the hCG.

Once the hCG is prepared you can then draw both the AAS and the hCG into the same syringe.

What he said. Sorry for the confusion. Bac water is dirt cheap.

[Vinnie214]

Vinnie, you still need bac water.
You don't mix the oil with the hCG powder.
You mix bac water with the hCG.

Once the hCG is prepared you can then draw both the AAS and the hCG into the same syringe.

Oh lol sorry I got confused. At least I don't need to buy insulin needles I guess. I think I'll just inject them seperately, less room for mistakes

Thanks

[PrimoCyp25]

Awsome write up, damn things changed what we knew about these things 20.years back

[narcolepticshark]

This was awesome. I finally understand. Thanks.