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    Got my answer. Shit works. Training fasting. Cave man theori. Million years of evolution. Not this short chickenshit 12 000 years agriculture era.
    When i woke up, i testet feader shoulder laterals. 40 hours into the fast, i did 36 reps. 50 reps is normal.
    Now after the meals yesterday and a sollid breakfast, i did fucking 60 reps. Great pump, slim skin.
    So lets follow the cavemen and for days and hungry hunt down a sabeltooth tiger.
    Then lets feast. And grow like a motherfucker.

    And dbol is out. All ive got is high trtdose of test e and tren e, but the tren e was also stopped last week.
    So 200 testeron enanthate. No mk677 or cardarine cause the mail from uk is fucked up because of war and covid. Dude said.
    But. I stick to the caves. We will hunt. We we win.

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    Only concern is. What if my error is the best. They suggest a 24 hour fast, then train.
    But what if u get even more GH, mTor, etc and growth from 48 hours?
    Damned cause it was a real pain in the ass and at the gym i could hardly walk beetween sets.

    But maybe it will be better next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AR's King Silabolin View Post
    Only concern is. What if my error is the best. They suggest a 24 hour fast, then train.
    But what if u get even more GH, mTor, etc and growth from 48 hours?
    Damned cause it was a real pain in the ass and at the gym i could hardly walk beetween sets.

    But maybe it will be better next time.

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    It's kind of pushing things a little hard, Sil. Just my 2cc. With the amount of muscle you carry, a heavy workout is crushing your blood glucose.

    That was one problem I had with a regular keto diet. If I got busy at work and missed a meal/didn't eat for 6-8 hours, my glucose could easily hit the low high 40s to 50s. Next thing I would start sweating like crazy and my thoughts would get fuzzy. So I started keeping a glucometer with me until I figured it out.

    The good thing about recognizing it is you can stop for a few minutes, eat some ground beef and asparagus or whatever and once your body gets a little fuel, you're back in the game.

    Not saying what you're doing doesn't work, just don't push the idea too hard and hurt yourself. You can be as cut up as a madman, but you won't look very cool collapsed on the gym floor or passed out in the parking lot where someone could act like they're helping,but are really snagging your wallet, car keys, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    It's kind of pushing things a little hard, Sil. Just my 2cc. With the amount of muscle you carry, a heavy workout is crushing your blood glucose.

    That was one problem I had with a regular keto diet. If I got busy at work and missed a meal/didn't eat for 6-8 hours, my glucose could easily hit the low high 40s to 50s. Next thing I would start sweating like crazy and my thoughts would get fuzzy. So I started keeping a glucometer with me until I figured it out.

    The good thing about recognizing it is you can stop for a few minutes, eat some ground beef and asparagus or whatever and once your body gets a little fuel, you're back in the game.

    Not saying what you're doing doesn't work, just don't push the idea too hard and hurt yourself. You can be as cut up as a madman, but you won't look very cool collapsed on the gym floor or passed out in the parking lot where someone could act like they're helping,but are really snagging your wallet, car keys, etc.
    Collapsed in the parking garage?...u need to read up. Most of us carry around enough vit min energy to "easily" move 4 weeks after food. Most likely 40 days, even a normal skin guy.

    Reason why u felt bad without carbs, was because your methabolic flexiability was so bad.

    In a few weeks with short fasts, intermediate fasting and keto, your body will be good at using ketons for fuel.

    That way it should be like stealing candy from kids training 48 hours wo food.

    But u just wanna go easy. 70%

    I went in 100% with calves and hams first.

    Then i was done before the heavy quads exercises.

    Only prob is, as i said, quality of life that two days wo food.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AR's King Silabolin View Post
    Collapsed in the parking garage?...u need to read up. Most of us carry around enough vit min energy to "easily" move 4 weeks after food. Most likely 40 days, even a normal skin guy.

    Reason why u felt bad without carbs, was because your methabolic flexiability was so bad.

    In a few weeks with short fasts, intermediate fasting and keto, your body will be good at using ketons for fuel.

    That way it should be like stealing candy from kids training 48 hours wo food.

    But u just wanna go easy. 70%

    I went in 100% with calves and hams first.

    Then i was done before the heavy quads exercises.

    Only prob is, as i said, quality of life that two days wo food.

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    I was referring to blood glucose not the amount of fats stored in out body. Some people process fats much different on strict keto diets when they are in heavy ketosis and glucose will plummet.

    I can literally can drop into the 40-50s when hustling at work if I go more than 6-8 hours without eating. Always have been like that.

    A man that hasn't eaten for 48 hours and hits a heavy leg session can very easily hit the floor. That I know for a fact, and that's w/ no insulin use. Look at some of the more intense physical training routines and watch what happens when people skip meals. Disagree if you want, but I know what happens to me and I know my statements are based on fact. Have a nice day.
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    Another argue for the cavepolicy. Now my mouth is watery. Thinking of the kebab with lots of garlic sauce i can eat after work.

    Eating chickenbreasts, brown rise and brockoli 4 times a day makes me puke. I dont wanna be a bodybuilder like that.

    And yeah, the garlic sauce will make me more cut than the chickenbreast bodybuilder.
    And i live 20 years longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AR's King Silabolin View Post
    Another argue for the cavepolicy. Now my mouth is watery. Thinking of the kebab with lots of garlic sauce i can eat after work.

    Eating chickenbreasts, brown rise and brockoli 4 times a day makes me puke. I dont wanna be a bodybuilder like that.

    And yeah, the garlic sauce will make me more cut than the chickenbreast bodybuilder.
    And i live 20 years longer.

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    I'm with you on the kebabs, lamb w/ Tzatziki sauce, etc.
    There are 3 loves in my life: my wife, my English mastiffs, and my weightlifting....Man, my wife gets really pissed when I get the 3 confused...
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    Yo chargi...ur american. U think someone in Hollywood can use me?

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    Here he is, my new guru. Thomas Delauer.

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    Now, can people last for long periods of time in low exertion survival mode? Absolutely.

    There's plenty of into on exercise induced hypoglycemia when incorporating fasting. There's a recent article on endocrine web (dot com, I think?) about it and other reputable reports.

    I'm just trying to prevent the man from hitting the floor like I did.
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    Well, im going to test the effect now. I have been eating for 48 hours now i think,past the 48 hour fast.
    Training in one hour.
    Feeling full. And i will try togo heavy. If i break records due to the doses im using, i will know for fact if this lifespan extending fasting also will increase musclesize and strength.

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    Best wo i ever had. No intra. Pump for 2 and a half hours. I just could go on and on and on..
    Never seen anything like it.
    And i dropped dbol 4 says ago. I was running 40 mg.

    Crazy. Just crazy.
    Metabolic flexibility.
    Ketons all day.

    I will do another 48 hours fast then training soon.

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    At the gym. Legs. I have fasted for 20 hours. And added sodium and 500 mg magnesium.
    But it should be slow realising magnesium. I learn more and more. The usuall magnesium supp stuff, doesnt work that good. But better than nothing.

    First calves, no loss of strength. Feeling real good actually. Yet.

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    What the fuck is happening. Calves, half of hams done. Crazy pump, superb strength. No pwo, intra. Just a 20 hour fast prior. No dbol. Just trtdose and ugl 200 mg tren e.
    I know its not the tren. Been on 4 weeks.
    New ground. One word. Inzane. Puts all my knowledge to 0.
    Looking big and ripped.
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    Thigths almost done, pump is stil there. Superb strength.
    Rest is easy, contacttraining with rear delts, neck, traps.

    I think i never will train in a non fasted state anymore.

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    Now. After wo. 3 capsules omega 3.
    Two boxes of tuna in water.

    Best post workout after fast acourding to Thomas Debrauer.

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    You better keep it going because this old man has put on a lot of new tissue. I found the secret for my legs after years of searching.


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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    You better keep it going because this old man has put on a lot of new tissue. I found the secret for my legs after years of searching.


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    Please share I could use fresh advice for leg training

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuz View Post
    Please share I could use fresh advice for leg training
    I work out legs 3x week. I only do 2 exercises for quads on each leg day.
    Day one- example squats
    3 warm up sets of 8 reps
    2 working sets 6-8 reps to failure followed by 10 second rest and once again to failure- probably 3-4 reps

    Same thing with leg press

    Day 2 - 3 sets 12-15 reps
    2 sets 12-15 with two drop sets ( 12-15 reps. )

    Day 3 same as day one.


    I have also started working in muscle rounds on day 3.

    The key is you are only doing 2 working sets on heavy day- kill them on day 1&3.

    I do get a sweat going on the warmup. I probably have 3-5 reps in reserve.

    I also do all body parts 3x week but only one heavy day, with the other two 12-15 reps with 2 sets having drop sets.

    Groupings: quads, hams ( only once per week), back, biceps
    Group 2: chest, shoulders, triceps.


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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    I work out legs 3x week. I only do 2 exercises for quads on each leg day.
    Day one- example squats
    3 warm up sets of 8 reps
    2 working sets 6-8 reps to failure followed by 10 second rest and once again to failure- probably 3-4 reps

    Same thing with leg press

    Day 2 - 3 sets 12-15 reps
    2 sets 12-15 with two drop sets ( 12-15 reps. )

    Day 3 same as day one.


    I have also started working in muscle rounds on day 3.

    The key is you are only doing 2 working sets on heavy day- kill them on day 1&3.

    I do get a sweat going on the warmup. I probably have 3-5 reps in reserve.

    I also do all body parts 3x week but only one heavy day, with the other two 12-15 reps with 2 sets having drop sets.

    Groupings: quads, hams ( only once per week), back, biceps
    Group 2: chest, shoulders, triceps.


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    Appreciate you sharing that. As i figured judging by the volume you are doing im simply not hitting them enough, with a little HIT mix in. Something i will have to work up to

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuz View Post
    Appreciate you sharing that. As i figured judging by the volume you are doing im simply not hitting them enough, with a little HIT mix in. Something i will have to work up to
    Part of it is volume, part of it is going to failure, and part of it is intensity. I added intensity modifiers ( ie drop sets, 10 seconds and go to failure again, etc).
    Mentally, I know I only have two working sets per exercise so I need to kill it every time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    You better keep it going because this old man has put on a lot of new tissue. I found the secret for my legs after years of searching.


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    THATS some fake news. And if u put up, its easy to manipulate pics these days. In fitness that is.
    So that is THIS old mans take on that matter for the moment.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AR's King Silabolin View Post
    THATS some fake news. And if u put up, its easy to manipulate pics these days. In fitness that is.
    So that is THIS old mans take on that matter for the moment.


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    One thing I will never do is manipulate a pic. I am what I am and I have worked too hard through the years to get where I am to have to be phony.

    The real reason- I don’t know how to manipulate them . LMAO


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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    One thing I will never do is manipulate a pic. I am what I am and I have worked too hard through the years to get where I am to have to be phony.

    The real reason- I don’t know how to manipulate them . LMAO


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    Ask your grand grand grand son lol[emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]

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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    You better keep it going because this old man has put on a lot of new tissue. I found the secret for my legs after years of searching.


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    Did you realize that squat racks are for squatting, not just bicep curls?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylon357 View Post
    Did you realize that squat racks are for squatting, not just bicep curls?

    I curl what you squat. [emoji1787]


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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    I curl what you squat. [emoji1787]


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    Only on days that end in y lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylon357 View Post
    Only on days that end in y lol
    Sorry man. I didn’t look closely. I thought I was responding to Sil. I didn’t mean anything negative to you, if it were Sil, I did mean something negative. [emoji23]


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    Soon i will have that bi tri separation when relaxed also!

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    Almost ready for trenbulking.

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    James Tiny West is wrong. "The fat that ur carring, is the fat that ur eating"

    This dish has loads of fat. Garlic sause, two big tablespoons with creme fraice and sour cream, avocado and oliven. And the meat is also high fat.
    Insulin makes u fat, not fat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AR's King Silabolin View Post
    Almost ready for trenbulking.

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    James Tiny West is wrong. "The fat that ur carring, is the fat that ur eating"

    This dish has loads of fat. Garlic sause, two big tablespoons with creme fraice and sour cream, avocado and oliven. And the meat is also high fat.
    Insulin makes u fat, not fat.
    Survey says….:: XXX

    That means wrong. You are what you eat…. But with you , you are just a Covid case. [emoji23]


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    Quote Originally Posted by AR's King Silabolin View Post
    Almost ready for trenbulking.

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    James Tiny West is wrong. "The fat that ur carring, is the fat that ur eating"

    This dish has loads of fat. Garlic sause, two big tablespoons with creme fraice and sour cream, avocado and oliven. And the meat is also high fat.
    Insulin makes u fat, not fat.
    Damn Sil, I’ve got to up my culinary game!
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    Quote Originally Posted by wango View Post
    Damn Sil, I’ve got to up my culinary game!
    Just read up on Thomas Delauer. And ull get as many chicks as i do.

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    Damn- you still have a lot of empty skin. Plenty of room for more tattoos.


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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    Damn- you still have a lot of empty skin. Plenty of room for more tattoos.


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    U think i look smal now. I can feel it. Im just flat. 4 weeks wo carb. Fasting, IMF. But...when i eat and in the gym, it all fills out. Real nice. Tomorrow i have chest. And im training with a prev miss Universe competitor. For sure i will fill out for the wo.
    I know u dont believe me and its not sure she allovs me to picture us training, but....here she is. AND, i will put on my best newwashed clothes and try stop gymrats from thinking, what the fuck is this old man doing with that chick.
    Ofcourse they will not think so. Hehe. I also look decent.

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    Actually she is half Russian. So i must remember to not bring up the war.
    As Basil Fawlty did in the much admired british comic show from the 70s, "Fawlty Towers"
    Basil got some German guests at his hotel and he deceided not to mention the war. But before they arrived, he smashed his head and he ended up talking about the war all the time, even if i didnt want to. He even imitated the funny walk and Htler speaking.[emoji846][emoji16]

    But its always like this. If u really try to avoid a potent subject, ull end up talking about it
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    Its landed. She confirmed. Wow..a bit shaky. Training in one hour. With a model. Atleast a 9er.
    Damned, maybe i should get some mouthwater. Fasting leads to bad taste in mouth. To hell with it, im drinking water all the time.
    And never ever try to touch her in a way that..and no silly jokes about her nice ass n breast.
    Guess the best approach is to treat her like a male spotter, but a bit more estrogenfriendly. She got lots of it, we test.
    I know how it runs with high e2 also.
    Ok...ill try.

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    Finished with the model. I landed this socially. She asked if she could join next week also.
    Training will never be 100% when u have to make sure a girl is feeling ok all the time. But..it was fun
    I did not get the superpump, and the mirrors was just ok.
    But im off the tren and dbol, so i guess its ok.
    Toilet afterpic.
    I didnt ask for pic of here.

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    Sorry for that side bar...

    Sil, how are you doing with the long covid?

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    Separation all day too.

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    Todays dish is not that green. Green new deal.
    No man, box of sour cream, garlic sause, 350 g kebab. 180 g burger.
    Olives.
    80-90 g og protein, 150 gs of fat (wild guess).. 1800 cals (wild guess)

    Keto baby, fat got to be high.

    Shot after training. Feel natty. Guess trades of tren are left. Cruising on 200 mg test e.
    Havent deceided if i start the cycle 1 may or 15 may.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AR's King Silabolin View Post
    Todays dish is not that green. Green new deal.
    No man, box of sour cream, garlic sause, 350 g kebab. 180 g burger.
    Olives.
    80-90 g og protein, 150 gs of fat (wild guess).. 1800 cals (wild guess)

    Keto baby, fat got to be high.

    Shot after training. Feel natty. Guess trades of tren are left. Cruising on 200 mg test e.
    Havent deceided if i start the cycle 1 may or 15 may.

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    Damn, that garlic sauce is getting to me. There is a kabob place almost next to our gym & they have a killer garlic and yogurt sauce. They also sell it by the pint and we’ve been getting it every week now. Looking good Sil, glad to see you’ve recovered. I was pissed at your stubbornness to get checked, but am happy for you.

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