** The ASK GB ANYTHING thread (diet/nutrition related) **

[--->>405<<---]

well GB i posted in ur lean gain thread and had to erase it cuz i thought it was this thread so.. im going on a cruise april 29.. i wanna be as lean as possible by then.. have talkd it over with SteM and he directed me to jimmyinkedup's thread on carb cycling.. i looked it over and im ready to try a carb cycle if u think its my best route?? would like to try and hit single digit bf or get as close as possible.. i know weve talkd bout it before but i am serious now and want to have it fresh in my mind (if u dont mind )

1. do u think id do good to have 2 high(200g) carb days, 2 zero(except green veg) carb days, 3 low(100g)carb days..?? if so what would be the best order or does it matter?

i was thinking:

mon: high(200g) chest
tue: zero- back
wed: zero- cardio only
thu: high(200g) legs
fri: low(100g) shoulders,arms
sat: low(100g) cardio only
sun: low(100g) off

curious as to whether i should count broccoli and asparagus into macros as well?? want to start this thing on monday..

also curious as to how to fit a cheat meal in here?? or if i should?? my cheat would be 2 whole chicken breasts(skin on..remove and dont eat the skin after cooked) grilled and baked sweet potato cut into fries...

thx man

attached is 2 current pics (and 1 original pic) so u can see where im at and be reminded of where i came from ..

[Razor]

well GB i posted in ur lean gain thread and had to erase it cuz i thought it was this thread so.. im going on a cruise april 29.. i wanna be as lean as possible by then.. have talkd it over with SteM and he directed me to jimmyinkedup's thread on carb cycling.. i looked it over and im ready to try a carb cycle if u think its my best route?? would like to try and hit single digit bf or get as close as possible.. i know weve talkd bout it before but i am serious now and want to have it fresh in my mind (if u dont mind )

1. do u think id do good to have 2 high(200g) carb days, 2 zero(except green veg) carb days, 3 low(100g)carb days..?? if so what would be the best order or does it matter?

i was thinking:

mon: high(200g) chest
tue: zero- back
wed: zero- cardio only
thu: high(200g) legs
fri: low(100g) shoulders,arms
sat: low(100g) cardio only
sun: low(100g) off

curious as to whether i should count broccoli and asparagus into macros as well?? want to start this thing on monday..

also curious as to how to fit a cheat meal in here?? or if i should?? my cheat would be 2 whole chicken breasts(skin on..remove and dont eat the skin after cooked) grilled and baked sweet potato cut into fries...

thx man

attached is 2 current pics (and 1 original pic) so u can see where im at and be reminded of where i came from ..

405 your beasting bro

[--->>405<<---]

405 your beasting bro

Thx man now GB where r u dude? LOL.. We need ur assistance

[gbrice75]

well GB i posted in ur lean gain thread and had to erase it cuz i thought it was this thread so.. im going on a cruise april 29.. i wanna be as lean as possible by then.. have talkd it over with SteM and he directed me to jimmyinkedup's thread on carb cycling.. i looked it over and im ready to try a carb cycle if u think its my best route?? would like to try and hit single digit bf or get as close as possible.. i know weve talkd bout it before but i am serious now and want to have it fresh in my mind (if u dont mind )

1. do u think id do good to have 2 high(200g) carb days, 2 zero(except green veg) carb days, 3 low(100g)carb days..?? if so what would be the best order or does it matter?

i was thinking:

mon: high(200g) chest
tue: zero- back
wed: zero- cardio only
thu: high(200g) legs
fri: low(100g) shoulders,arms
sat: low(100g) cardio only
sun: low(100g) off

curious as to whether i should count broccoli and asparagus into macros as well?? want to start this thing on monday..

also curious as to how to fit a cheat meal in here?? or if i should?? my cheat would be 2 whole chicken breasts(skin on..remove and dont eat the skin after cooked) grilled and baked sweet potato cut into fries...

thx man

attached is 2 current pics (and 1 original pic) so u can see where im at and be reminded of where i came from ..

405, this is too much to address while I'm on my iPhone; I'll get back with u when I can get to the PC - might be a few days though.

[Razor]

Where is GB, need my question answered

[joebailey1271]

Jp, you can try the palumbo, but as i discovered unless you are taking chemicals i feel like you loose muscle. Also when you eat more protein than fat your body turns the protein into glucose defeating the purpose of a keto diet. The whole purpose of doing a keto diet is to make your body use fats as fuel instead of glucose. It will take 2 to 3 weeks for that to happen. Go to http://stronglifts.com/anabolic-diet...ic-diet-guide/ for more info. On the palumbo diet I was cutting fat, but also loosing strenght which made me realize i was probably loosing muscle. Also the palumbo diet was basically a low cal low carb diet. I cant live on a measly 2200 calories a day, I have a mans job working in the oil field. So i need my calories to stay strong. You can try both, I know, i bought all that protein powder too, have a box full of it. Im not even gonna use it right now, probably will after i get down to 10%. Started at 22% fat, down to 18% since the 2nd week of january, eating anywhere from 3100 to 3200 calories, no cardio yet, just seeing how it goes on the calories before i start the cardio, well actually when the weight loss slows.

[cyounger100]

Jp, you can try the palumbo, but as i discovered unless you are taking chemicals i feel like you loose muscle. Also when you eat more protein than fat your body turns the protein into glucose defeating the purpose of a keto diet. The whole purpose of doing a keto diet is to make your body use fats as fuel instead of glucose. It will take 2 to 3 weeks for that to happen. Go to http://stronglifts.com/anabolic-diet...ic-diet-guide/ for more info. On the palumbo diet I was cutting fat, but also loosing strenght which made me realize i was probably loosing muscle. Also the palumbo diet was basically a low cal low carb diet. I cant live on a measly 2200 calories a day, I have a mans job working in the oil field. So i need my calories to stay strong. You can try both, I know, i bought all that protein powder too, have a box full of it. Im not even gonna use it right now, probably will after i get down to 10%. Started at 22% fat, down to 18% since the 2nd week of january, eating anywhere from 3100 to 3200 calories, no cardio yet, just seeing how it goes on the calories before i start the cardio, well actually when the weight loss slows.

i understand your trying too help but this thread is called ask gbrice anything and the reason why we are asking him and not you is that we know that he knows his shit so maybe start your own thread ask joebailey anything instead of cluttering gbrices up

[gbrice75]

i understand your trying too help but this thread is called ask gbrice anything and the reason why we are asking him and not you is that we know that he knows his shit so maybe start your own thread ask joebailey anything instead of cluttering gbrices up

[--->>405<<---]

^^^lol x2

[bubsy]

hi i put together a new diet wanted to ask u if u think its good!

i wake up pretty early

3:30am= 1 cup oats
ON 2 spoons
cinnamon

5:30 am= 1 1/2 cups whole meal pasta
10 egg whites

7:30am= 2 low gi high protien mini loaves (found recipe on internet)
1 cup oats
2x pumkin seed crackers with 2 spoons natural peanut butter

bsn no xplode 5grams and 1 scoop jack 3d
train
10:00 after training
2spoon ON whey
1 cup rice with tuna

12:00 2x skinless breast chicken 170-200g
brocolli
1 cup 1% milk
whole meal rice

14:00 2x burger patties low fat no sodium
1/2 cup greek yoghurt
1 1/2 cups 1% milk

16:00 2x chicken breast 170-200g each
1/2 cup whole meal rice

18:00 cassien 2 spoons

bed somewhere after this!

Is this diet okay?
I eat in between bananas and more mini loaves and apples!
I got Gaspari's amino max where in the diet would u suggest i put them!

[gbrice75]

hi i put together a new diet wanted to ask u if u think its good!

i wake up pretty early

3:30am= 1 cup oats
ON 2 spoons
cinnamon

5:30 am= 1 1/2 cups whole meal pasta
10 egg whites

7:30am= 2 low gi high protien mini loaves (found recipe on internet)
1 cup oats
2x pumkin seed crackers with 2 spoons natural peanut butter

bsn no xplode 5grams and 1 scoop jack 3d
train
10:00 after training
2spoon ON whey
1 cup rice with tuna

12:00 2x skinless breast chicken 170-200g
brocolli
1 cup 1% milk
whole meal rice

14:00 2x burger patties low fat no sodium
1/2 cup greek yoghurt
1 1/2 cups 1% milk

16:00 2x chicken breast 170-200g each
1/2 cup whole meal rice

18:00 cassien 2 spoons

bed somewhere after this!

Is this diet okay?
I eat in between bananas and more mini loaves and apples!
I got Gaspari's amino max where in the diet would u suggest i put them!

Bro, please do me a favor - start a new thread, copy this post in it, then edit this post to link me to your new thread. I don't want this thread to get cluttered with personal consultation on people's diets. Thanks man, I'd appreciate it.

[RugbyKid]

Still fairly new to the whole lifting thing. I've read through a lot of the threads and know that diet is the biggest key to gaining size. I'm still in high school and just looking for all the help I can get. Figured this would be the place for some good advice on what I should be mainly eating to bulk

[gbrice75]

Still fairly new to the whole lifting thing. I've read through a lot of the threads and know that diet is the biggest key to gaining size. I'm still in high school and just looking for all the help I can get. Figured this would be the place for some good advice on what I should be mainly eating to bulk

Welcome to the board. The short answer to your question - more calories than you burn. Read the post that I opened this thread with and you'll understand why my answer isn't detailed. There is a TON of info in this section to answer your question, I don't think it needs to be addressed here.

Try the search function, read the sticky's, and check out members logs to get a feel for how they're eating.

[jpowell]

Ok thanks bro. Yea I noticed the sugar free gum I chew does contain sugar alcohol. My supps that I wod use are evp and cell kem by evogen. I also I bought the wrong protein the other nite. I didn't notice that muscle techs whether contains 9g of carbs per serving. While every1 else contain between 2-3g. So ill return n get a different brand. But I think I'm just gonna wing it. Meaning no plaumbo or exact keto. But will try a high fat high protein diet to switch to using fat as fuel instead of carbs. Same prinicple just winging it lol. Thanks agn bro.

[slfmade]

I ask this in my log, but thought I would ask it here too.

This morning I got to thinking about this cut I'll start in 3 weeks from Monday. I'm curious....could a person carb cycle an "IF" diet? Would there be any reason not to?

[gbrice75]

Ok thanks bro. Yea I noticed the sugar free gum I chew does contain sugar alcohol. My supps that I wod use are evp and cell kem by evogen. I also I bought the wrong protein the other nite. I didn't notice that muscle techs whether contains 9g of carbs per serving. While every1 else contain between 2-3g. So ill return n get a different brand. But I think I'm just gonna wing it. Meaning no plaumbo or exact keto. But will try a high fat high protein diet to switch to using fat as fuel instead of carbs. Same prinicple just winging it lol. Thanks agn bro.

Np bro, good luck and keep me posted.

I ask this in my log, but thought I would ask it here too.

This morning I got to thinking about this cut I'll start in 3 weeks from Monday. I'm curious....could a person carb cycle an "IF" diet? Would there be any reason not to?

Very interesting!! I haven't thought about it before, but they could work very together. The way they work is similar, albeit different timings, but synergistically they might be potent. As long as you're hitting your macros, you should be ok. My only initial concern would be the high carb day/days - you'll be cramming an extraordinary amount of carbs in a really short time which could lead to fat gain and be completely counter productive.

If you write up a proposed plan and want me to look it over, lemme know.

[slfmade]

Np bro, good luck and keep me posted.



Very interesting!! I haven't thought about it before, but they could work very together. The way they work is similar, albeit different timings, but synergistically they might be potent. As long as you're hitting your macros, you should be ok. My only initial concern would be the high carb day/days - you'll be cramming an extraordinary amount of carbs in a really short time which could lead to fat gain and be completely counter productive.

If you write up a proposed plan and want me to look it over, lemme know.

I'll try to work a bit on it this weekend. I'm running IF now and already taking in 300g of carbs and a total of 3000+calories on lift days and haven't notice any fat gain. Actually I'm running less carbs and less calories on non lift days, so I guess in a sense this is what I'm already doing. Just gotta adjust it a bit.

I think I have a pretty good understanding of IF, and I know the basics of Carb Cycling, but I need to learn a bit more. I'll do some research this weekend and put something together and see what you think.

Any good links on here that somebody can post regarding carb cycling?

[--->>405<<---]

I'll try to work a bit on it this weekend. I'm running IF now and already taking in 300g of carbs and a total of 3000+calories on lift days and haven't notice any fat gain. Actually I'm running less carbs and less calories on non lift days, so I guess in a sense this is what I'm already doing. Just gotta adjust it a bit.

I think I have a pretty good understanding of IF, and I know the basics of Carb Cycling, but I need to learn a bit more. I'll do some research this weekend and put something together and see what you think.

Any good links on here that somebody can post regarding carb cycling?

if u find any slf let me know man im startn one hopefully monday (carb cycle)

[slfmade]

Very interesting!! I haven't thought about it before, but they could work very together. The way they work is similar, albeit different timings, but synergistically they might be potent. As long as you're hitting your macros, you should be ok. My only initial concern would be the high carb day/days - you'll be cramming an extraordinary amount of carbs in a really short time which could lead to fat gain and be completely counter productive.

If you write up a proposed plan and want me to look it over, lemme know.

I started a thread on it. So far 104 views and no replies so maybe you can help me out.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...Paired-with-IF

[--->>405<<---]

the eating on the high carb days would be fantastic LOL .. 8 hrs and 250g carbs and 300g protein LOL for a guy thats been cutting for 5 months thats my kinda diet!

[gbrice75]

I carb cycled 3 moderate days, 3 zero carb days (fibrous veggies only), and 1 high carb day. My moderate days had workouts geared towards growth/maintaining, while my zero carb days were all depletion oriented. My high carb day was my rest/off day.

There are many ways to carb cycle, but I see too many people setting up schedules with no rhyme or reason, like - GB, what do you think of:

Monday - High
Tues - Mod
Wed - Low
Thurs - High
Fri - Low.... etc etc etc

when I ask why it's set up that way, they don't even know, nor do the workouts make sense with the set up.

[--->>405<<---]

I carb cycled 3 moderate days, 3 zero carb days (fibrous veggies only), and 1 high carb day. My moderate days had workouts geared towards growth/maintaining, while my zero carb days were all depletion oriented. My high carb day was my rest/off day.

There are many ways to carb cycle, but I see too many people setting up schedules with no rhyme or reason, like - GB, what do you think of:

Monday - High
Tues - Mod
Wed - Low
Thurs - High
Fri - Low.... etc etc etc

when I ask why it's set up that way, they don't even know, nor do the workouts make sense with the set up.

i hope that wasnt directed at me

with mine ive kept the same amt of weekly carbs (700g) with the exception of maybe eating a few more veggies on zero carb days.. and figd since weekly carbs were the same i could do 2 days at 200g and 3 days at 100g and 2 days at 0g(except veggie carbs and maybe cottage cheese) still waitin on that.. focus high carb days on 2 heaviest lift days (legs and chest).. so i do have a reason for what i picked

[gbrice75]

I'll keep that in mind...I don't want to be shunned by the diet guru!!!

So In your opinion, what should the macro split look like on Low, medium, and high carb days? And should your total calories stay the same each day, just adjusting the macros?

What are your thoughts on carb type PWO? I've seen guys say simple rather than complex so they digest faster. Any suggestions???

On a strict cut, I stick with all complex. Otherwise the only simple carbs I add are a bit of fruit. I still have complex along with it however.

i hope that wasnt directed at me

with mine ive kept the same amt of weekly carbs (700g) with the exception of maybe eating a few more veggies on zero carb days.. and figd since weekly carbs were the same i could do 2 days at 200g and 3 days at 100g and 2 days at 0g(except veggie carbs and maybe cottage cheese) still waitin on that.. focus high carb days on 2 heaviest lift days (legs and chest).. so i do have a reason for what i picked

Not at all bro. If my example bore any resemblance to your carb cycle, it was sheer coincidence. The example of days/carbs was arbitrary, was more about getting that point across.

[--->>405<<---]

I carb cycled 3 moderate days, 3 zero carb days (fibrous veggies only), and 1 high carb day. My moderate days had workouts geared towards growth/maintaining, while my zero carb days were all depletion oriented. My high carb day was my rest/off day.

There are many ways to carb cycle, but I see too many people setting up schedules with no rhyme or reason, like - GB, what do you think of:

Monday - High
Tues - Mod
Wed - Low
Thurs - High
Fri - Low.... etc etc etc

when I ask why it's set up that way, they don't even know, nor do the workouts make sense with the set up.

GB can u explain what u mean here? Thx

[slfmade]

I carb cycled 3 moderate days, 3 zero carb days (fibrous veggies only), and 1 high carb day. My moderate days had workouts geared towards growth/maintaining, while my zero carb days were all depletion oriented. My high carb day was my rest/off day.

There are many ways to carb cycle, but I see too many people setting up schedules with no rhyme or reason, like - GB, what do you think of:

Monday - High
Tues - Mod
Wed - Low
Thurs - High
Fri - Low.... etc etc etc

when I ask why it's set up that way, they don't even know, nor do the workouts make sense with the set up.

I'll keep that in mind...I don't want to be shunned by the diet guru!!!

So In your opinion, what should the macro split look like on Low, medium, and high carb days? And should your total calories stay the same each day, just adjusting the macros?

[gbrice75]

GB, you quoted my question, but forgot to answer. LOL

Hmm, wtf?!?! Let's try this again....

So In your opinion, what should the macro split look like on Low, medium, and high carb days? And should your total calories stay the same each day, just adjusting the macros?

I keep protein and fats the same, only the carbs change. In essence, you're killing 2 birds with one stone because you're also calorie cycling via carb manipulation. Generally, this is how carb cycling is done.

[RugbyKid]

What are your thoughts on carb type PWO? I've seen guys say simple rather than complex so they digest faster. Any suggestions???

[slfmade]

What are your thoughts on carb type PWO? I've seen guys say simple rather than complex so they digest faster. Any suggestions???

Complex. I don't know of any guys on here that still use simple carbs PWO unless they're bulking...even then most still prefer complex.

[gearbox]

So did we get the weekly carb break down yet?? Let me know slf made

[slfmade]

So did we get the weekly carb break down yet?? Let me know slf made

Nothing yet. I'm waiting for GB to come back.

[slfmade]

GB, you quoted my question, but forgot to answer. LOL

[Sgt. Hartman]

Jimmy has posted a great example of a carb cycle diet here. http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...=#.Tzhz5phuHHg

Not to speak for GB, but typically when you cycle carbs, your other macros stay the same ED, so a low carb day is lower total cals and a high carb day is higher total cals.

[slfmade]

Jimmy has posted a great example of a carb cycle diet here. http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...=#.Tzhz5phuHHg

Not to speak for GB, but typically when you cycle carbs, your other macros stay the same ED, so a low carb day is lower total cals and a high carb day is higher total cals.

Hummm....If that's the case then I did this all wrong and might have to rework my plan. I guess we'll see.

[gbrice75]

BUMP!!! What r you gonna do about it?!?!?

[jpowell]

gbrice, i have a million dollar question. as i remember you used to be fat and sloppy and outta shape. what motivated you to change things up? what do you use for motivation currently? how can somebody like myself, win the battle between giving in on junk food (mainly candy) and staying strong on my diet. I started a new diet on sunday--went clean 2days, but this evening in class, got a craving for candy n bought sum twizzlers. just wana kik myself in the arse for not being strong.

[gbrice75]

gbrice, i have a million dollar question. as i remember you used to be fat and sloppy and outta shape.

Thanks for putting it so softly, lmao! But yes, i sure was

what motivated you to change things up?

My wedding. I just wasn't going to be a fat groom. I didn't want to look back at pictures from one of the happiest times of my life and regret being fat. So, after years of being lazy and unmotivated, I finally got off my ass, stopped making excuses and feeling bad for myself, and did something about it.

what do you use for motivation currently?

I think most will agree that staying motivated is the hardest part of this game. We all have our ups and downs, but I try and stay focused on my short term goals, and when I'm feeling bad about myself, I look back at old fat pics side by side with new pics and I'm blown away with how far I've come. We don't see the everyday progress, so it's hard to appreciate. But if you showed me a pic 4 years ago of how I look today, I probably would have passed out. I never thought this was possible - yet I'm still hungry for much, much more.

ghow can somebody like myself, win the battle between giving in on junk food (mainly candy) and staying strong on my diet.

Realize that you are in control. You choose to put the food in your mouth, nobody's forcing you. Hold yourself accountable and stop giving in to instant gratification. Realize that you're worth it. The food tastes good for a few minutes, then you feel like shit. Being in shape feels great ALL the time. Relish in the compliments people give you.

I started a new diet on sunday--went clean 2days, but this evening in class, got a craving for candy n bought sum twizzlers. just wana kik myself in the arse for not being strong.

Call it an isolated incident and move on. We all slip up; make slip ups few and far between, the exception, not the norm. I hope this helps!

[jpowell]

Very well said my Man.! Thanks alot.

[jimmycool]

Gb ur like 1 big fountain of knowledge looking at this thread, I cud probably learn sum thin from every question uv answered but just haven't gt the time to read it all lol, I was jus wondering how much of a difference would it make if u wer on a cycle of say test n deca, n u had a cheat day every saturday havin an unhealthy selection for every meal say bowl of sugary cereal in mornin, mcdonalds for lunch, dominos pizza for dinner n snacks of sweets n chocolate n stuff in the evening, how much of a difference to the over all gains and the health/side effects like acne n gyno u get do u think this would make to the user

[JimmySidewalk]

GB very quick
300g protein 100g carbs 100g fat VS 300g protein 300g carbs 15g fat or less

[gbrice75]

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GB can u explain what u mean here? Thx

lol, thx for the bumps!!!

What I mean is my carb days were used for the bigger/growth type workouts; i.e. deads, squats, bench press, etc. It would be difficult to hit these lifts with max intensity while depleted.

On my non-carb days, workouts were more cardio intensive; higher reps, shorter rests, lighter lifts, etc. The diet and the workout always go hand in hand, complimenting each other. Does this make sense?

Gb ur like 1 big fountain of knowledge looking at this thread, I cud probably learn sum thin from every question uv answered but just haven't gt the time to read it all lol, I was jus wondering how much of a difference would it make if u wer on a cycle of say test n deca, n u had a cheat day every saturday havin an unhealthy selection for every meal say bowl of sugary cereal in mornin, mcdonalds for lunch, dominos pizza for dinner n snacks of sweets n chocolate n stuff in the evening, how much of a difference to the over all gains and the health/side effects like acne n gyno u get do u think this would make to the user

I wouldn't worry much about acne, etc. If anything, the gear will probably help with nutrient partitioning and allow you some wiggle room to get away with this to some degree. But my view is - why waste money and time on gear if you're not going to be serious about it? Make it count, get everything out of it that you possibly can.

GB very quick
300g protein 100g carbs 100g fat VS 300g protein 300g carbs 15g fat or less

What's the goal??? 2 completely different macro splits. I can tell you that the 2nd one is really bad - 15g of fat? Not nearly enough in any diet.