My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle

[Mr.BB]

That's likely too much adex. You need blood work as the article states. Itchy nipples are not a diagnoses for anything. If you can't cut your adex, you can run 0.5mg every 3rd day.

Thanks for the input! Will reduce the adex.

Doing mid cycle BW at 8th week, it costs me over 200$ each BW so really didnt wanted to do it now...

[PRODIJ]

How do I know if my AI is working as intended?

is 0.25 ED too much armidex from start? I just want to make sure I get enough AI

Also.. do you have the link you gave where they sold liquid arimidex?

many thanks

[austinite]

How do I know if my AI is working as intended?

is 0.25 ED too much armidex from start? I just want to make sure I get enough AI

Also.. do you have the link you gave where they sold liquid arimidex?

many thanks

Blood work as the article outlines. You can get it from ar-r.com, they are legit; I can confirm.

[NACH3]

Blood work as the article outlines. You can get it from ar-r.com, they are legit; I can confirm.

what about their hGC aust... I keep hearing AR-R is legit but not their hcG... Is that true?? And thanks for responding to my "is it to late to run hCG 6 wk into a 12 wk cycle"... Very impressive and should be made a sticky! So, if AR-R is a no no for hCG, than where's the better hCG or is AR-R legit hCG?? Just askin b/c I've heard that hCG from AR-R wasn't good/legit?? Thank you

[Walkman13]

Thanks for the response Austin..
So I'm guessing that my cycle is ok considering it follows your protocol exactly... Just have to get my bf% down so I can get the ball rolling..
couple more questions..
During 1st cycle do you recommend eating at a surplus or maintenance? If you were to eat at a deficit while using test, would you still lose weight? I'm assuming that people wouldn't do this to begin with since the whole point is to try and build muscle..

While using Test can a person eat at maintenance and still add muscle mass? Would they add muscle mass and lose BF?

Thanks

[austinite]

Thanks for the response Austin..
So I'm guessing that my cycle is ok considering it follows your protocol exactly... Just have to get my bf% down so I can get the ball rolling..
couple more questions..
During 1st cycle do you recommend eating at a surplus or maintenance? If you were to eat at a deficit while using test, would you still lose weight? I'm assuming that people wouldn't do this to begin with since the whole point is to try and build muscle..

While using Test can a person eat at maintenance and still add muscle mass? Would they add muscle mass and lose BF?

Thanks

If you drop your BF, your cycle is fine. Otherwise, no.

Surplus if you want to gain, defect if you want to lose, exactly as it states in the article. Give the diet segment another read please.

Yes, you can add muscle, but nothing to shake a stick at. You need food, and lots of it if you want to gain.

[PRODIJ]

Austinite..

last question. do you know the name of those examens in spanish?

I cant figure them. lol

[austinite]

Austinite..

last question. do you know the name of those examens in spanish?

I cant figure them. lol

No. Sorry. Try using an online translator.

[zoul]

Austine, this post was for real!!!! without a doubt,,,Im a newbie, and 41 yrs of age 6'1" 195 with 18% body fat....I gotta cut that down...I don't cycle never have but Im totally for it .I am noticing a fatigue and lack in my age , Im seeing the dr soon to check my blood and hopefully get on trt... I hope I can always contact you for advice...

[Walkman13]

Pics don't do her justice either. I live in vegas and have gone to the Olympia expo 3 years in a row now. DLB is impressive in person. To say the least

[Walkman13]

King 06 the pic he's using is of Dana Linn Bailey. Ms. Physique Olympia

[austinite]

Please stay on topic, folks.

[Chicagotarsier]

OK, so we are back on naming those examens in Spanish?

Please stay on topic, folks.

[DrewZ]

Blood work you need (at minimum):

1. Testosterone, Total
2. Testosterone, Free
3. Sensitive E2 Assay (Not basic estradiol, that's for women)
4. CBC (Compete blood count)
5. CMP (Comprehensive metabolic panel)
6. Lipid Profile (post cycle is fine)
7. LH and FSH

Planning & paying for my blood work- trying to figure out what the best options to get everything I need.
I'm leaning towards getting both female and male hormone panels but it seems like a waste because a bunch of the tests I'll be getting twice.

Is there a better option than getting both of these?

Also for the mid-cycle test I want to make sure I get the TT numbers that show what the actual number is when its out of range.
There was a thread explaining what tests to get from what companies but I cannot find it for the life of me now.

Much appreciated,
D

[sunny335i]

Great info so glad I found this fourm, so happy to be a new member. Thanks austin.

[sunny335i]

Had one question, I ordered Arimidex liquid from ar-r. So through out my cycle I will use about half the bottle, the rest of the bottle if I store it in room temperature does it expire or I can use it again in about 6 months?

[King06]

Good evening everyone.

I met with the Men's Medical Center today and they were willing to start the TRT today provided I paid $1400.00 bucks! They don't deal with insurance companies so they give you the billing information and it's up to the individual to submit it for reimbursement. I called my insurance provider to find a endocrinologist in network that would be covered. They provide me about fifty names, I made some calls and the information I was provided by ALL of the ones I called (21 so far) leads me to this question for you guys. ALL of their TRT use testosterone cypionate. Is this ok for my first cycle or is TRT considered a cycle? I know Austin recommends test enanthate only for first cycles.
Thanks in advance for any assistance on this topic.

[austinite]

Planning & paying for my blood work- trying to figure out what the best options to get everything I need.
I'm leaning towards getting both female and male hormone panels but it seems like a waste because a bunch of the tests I'll be getting twice.

Is there a better option than getting both of these?

Also for the mid-cycle test I want to make sure I get the TT numbers that show what the actual number is when its out of range.
There was a thread explaining what tests to get from what companies but I cannot find it for the life of me now.

Much appreciated,
D

There is no need to get both. I get male panels. Keep it simple. Thread you're looking is by Docd187123, look up his history to find that thread.

Had one question, I ordered Arimidex liquid from ar-r. So through out my cycle I will use about half the bottle, the rest of the bottle if I store it in room temperature does it expire or I can use it again in about 6 months?

9 months to a year. that's how long it lasts.

Good evening everyone.

I met with the Men's Medical Center today and they were willing to start the TRT today provided I paid $1400.00 bucks! They don't deal with insurance companies so they give you the billing information and it's up to the individual to submit it for reimbursement. I called my insurance provider to find a endocrinologist in network that would be covered. They provide me about fifty names, I made some calls and the information I was provided by ALL of the ones I called (21 so far) leads me to this question for you guys. ALL of their TRT use testosterone cypionate. Is this ok for my first cycle or is TRT considered a cycle? I know Austin recommends test enanthate only for first cycles.
Thanks in advance for any assistance on this topic.

Yes, cypionate is the most common ester for testosterone when prescribed. It can be used to cycle, or TRT.

[King06]

Thanks for the quick response Austin. For what it's worth, I appreciate the time you take to help board members out.

[DrewZ]

There is no need to get both. I get male panels. Keep it simple. Thread you're looking is by Docd187123, look up his history to find that thread.

2x what King said, thanks aust.

[austinite]

Appreciate the kind words, King.

Have a powerful day.

[kelkel]

Ease up would be my advice as it sounds like you're going to hurt yourself.

[base4291ball]

Ease up would be my advice as it sounds like you're going to hurt yourself.

Agree

~Base

[EpyoN]

Amazing thread! Thank you very much, Austinite. One question, though. Is it true that HCG will degrade once mixed with bac water or NaCl? Through my research Ive found that it can last about 30 days in bac water and about 7 days in NaCl solution. Instead of buying the kit with 5000iu and mixing all at once, wouldnt it make more sense to buy 3 separate 2000iu kits and mix when necessary?

Also, just to be clear, if I have 2000iu of HCG and mix with 2 mL of bac water, I would only be injecting .25mL of the solution every other day, correct? Thank you again for all the help.

[austinite]

Amazing thread! Thank you very much, Austinite. One question, though. Is it true that HCG will degrade once mixed with bac water or NaCl? Through my research Ive found that it can last about 30 days in bac water and about 7 days in NaCl solution. Instead of buying the kit with 5000iu and mixing all at once, wouldnt it make more sense to buy 3 separate 2000iu kits and mix when necessary?

Also, just to be clear, if I have 2000iu of HCG and mix with 2 mL of bac water, I would only be injecting .25mL of the solution every other day, correct? Thank you again for all the help.

Hey there,

The answer to your questions are in the following segments:

- How the Math Works for Mixing hCG
- Let's Clear Up Some Confusion About Handling hCG

Segments above can be found in this thread: http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...njections.html

Have a powerful day.

[Slacker78]

Thank you Austin, great guide !

I wonder if:

1) Could it be possible to replace the second injection of 250mg of Test Enanthate with Nandrolone Decanoate ( lowering the dose maybe about 200mg of Nandrolone), And keeping all the rest unchanged, PCT included ? Or could it need any general adjustments integrating Nandrolone ?

2) Is it possible to replace Arimidex with Proviron ? If so, could you suggest the dosage and time it about ( if no it could be useful if you could explain the matter/differences ) ?

3) Is it possible Hematocrit at 500mg/wk Test dosage as you told in your cycle example, to raise rapidly to a critical values before you do a blood test at 4° week and becoming life threatening even in your initial blood test was good ?

Thank you so much !

[austinite]

^

1. No. No other compounds if you want to follow my protocol.

2. No. Proviron is very weak.

3. Rapidly? Not very likely, but there are too many variables. It's individualistic. Body fat, diet, sleap apnea and even where you live are all impactful. So there is no telling, this is why you need blood work mid-cycle.

[Avadar]

Awesome info man really appreciated. I'm doing my first cycle and will be following your protocols! Thanks

[BigGuns89]

Great read very helpful to rookie users

[grappler135]

Great info! Really would like to be able to find Arimidex...

[austinite]

Great info! Really would like to be able to find Arimidex...

Welcome to Ar-r.com!

[poizonn]

Why HCG and Test simultaneously?

I have read a couple of other articles and people say while on Test, your body shuts down your natural test production and HCG makes your body produce test, so it would be like crossing two opposite things?

From the other stuff I've read, they say to take Test and arimidex, then HCG in the PCT to make the body produce its own test and restore it's levels.

What are your thoughts on this? I'm confused


Thanks in advance.

[austinite]

Why HCG and Test simultaneously?

I have read a couple of other articles and people say while on Test, your body shuts down your natural test production and HCG makes your body produce test, so it would be like crossing two opposite things?

From the other stuff I've read, they say to take Test and arimidex, then HCG in the PCT to make the body produce its own test and restore it's levels.

What are your thoughts on this? I'm confused


Thanks in advance.

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...njections.html

[Little ant]

this write up pretty much saved me from a trial and error cycle. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for writing this up. This has made the entire process so much simpler and directly to the point. I really wish you could attached this to every bottle of steroids bought. But now for my questions..
Is there anyway that you can just inject one time instead of multiple times for the day? Like can you just add your Test with your HCG with what ever liquids that you are running?
And I have always heard that test reduces body fat not by much but that it does so if you run a straight test cycle will that help reduce a little body fat (meaning can I start my cycle at 18-20% body fat)? Thank you again this is some excellent work here.

[austinite]

this write up pretty much saved me from a trial and error cycle. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for writing this up. This has made the entire process so much simpler and directly to the point. I really wish you could attached this to every bottle of steroids bought. But now for my questions..
Is there anyway that you can just inject one time instead of multiple times for the day? Like can you just add your Test with your HCG with what ever liquids that you are running?
And I have always heard that test reduces body fat not by much but that it does so if you run a straight test cycle will that help reduce a little body fat (meaning can I start my cycle at 18-20% body fat)? Thank you again this is some excellent work here.

No. 18 to 20 % is too high in my opinion, and that is a range, not an accurate number. Do not count on testosterone as a fat loss agent, it absolutely does NOT shed fat.

There's no need to inject multiples times daily. hCG and testosterone can be injected together.

[Little ant]

Yeah I thought it was bull about test making you loose fat. But anyway thank you so very much for your input. It is good to know that a beginner has some place they can ask a question and get an answer. Once again excellent work.

[bhmyers1968]

Outstanding information. I'm new to the forum and this is a great place to start.

Thank you

[IronBudda]

Not allowing my actual post.

What do you suggest for those who can not source hCG.


Have a source for everything else but can not get that.

Have looked for years.


38 years
176lb
14% and bulking
Looking to gain 5-10lb of LBM over the next few years.

Otherwise following your structure to a tea.

[austinite]

hCG is easy to find. Easier than steroids. Sorry you can't find it but you may just be looking in all the wrong places. I don't recommend cycling without hCG.

[IronBudda]

hCG is easy to find. Easier than steroids. Sorry you can't find it but you may just be looking in all the wrong places. I don't recommend cycling without hCG.

I can't source it. Can't just order online with Aussie customs. I don't have many paces to look.


So you would just not cycle?



Great post btw and thanks for responding. I had planned to run exactly as planned, although decided to run an AI on cycle instead of waiting and only using when responding to sides.