You'll want to read this!

[garythompson]

I know that losing weight (fat) doesn't mean a decrease in amount of fat cells, just a reduction in size of the fat cells; so would taking HGH increase the amount of muscle fibers in the body? What exactly grows while on HGH?

[Ronnie Rowland]

I know that losing weight (fat) doesn't mean a decrease in amount of fat cells, just a reduction in size of the fat cells; so would taking HGH increase the amount of muscle fibers in the body? What exactly grows while on HGH?

GH increases the size of existing muscle fibers (hypertrophy) and it creates more muscle fibers (hyperplasia). It also rebuilds connective tissue to some degree.

[D_iamond]

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[RANA]

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You need to edit your post ASAP

[Mr.Westizm]

Hey ronnie, im new to this site and whole era of making my body look and feel better.
I am going on a "2cc Test 400 and 2cc Deca 300 weekly" and "2 cap dbol daily" cycle. It is my first ever cycle and i am excited but looking to get a little bit more info. It looks like alot of the people on here know much more than I, so i was wondering...
1. my diet plan is a bit confusing, do you have any suggestions? and
2. i have been told it would be beneficial to stay on this routine for 10 weeks and then a clenbuterol/ clomid/ nolvadex for the last 4 weeks... i am a bit confused, do you have any advice?
I appreciate the time,
Mike

[Ronnie Rowland]

Hey ronnie, im new to this site and whole era of making my body look and feel better.
I am going on a "2cc Test 400 and 2cc Deca 300 weekly" and "2 cap dbol daily" cycle. It is my first ever cycle and i am excited but looking to get a little bit more info. It looks like alot of the people on here know much more than I, so i was wondering...
1. my diet plan is a bit confusing, do you have any suggestions? and
2. i have been told it would be beneficial to stay on this routine for 10 weeks and then a clenbuterol/ clomid/ nolvadex for the last 4 weeks... i am a bit confused, do you have any advice?
I appreciate the time,
Mike

Forget d-bol, clen and use nolva/clomid ptc.. You need to do a 20 week cycle consisting of 2 phases-

PHASE 1
8 WEEK RELOD- 600 MGS OF TEST
2 WEEK DELOAD-300 MGS OF TEST

PHASE 2
8 WEEK RELOAD 600 MGS OF TEST/400 MGS OF DECA
2 WEEK DELOAD 300 MGS OF TEST

Diet is simple-1) 6 meals per day with 50 grams of protein 2) take in enough clean carbs to fuel training and a little extra to get through daily activites- "varies according to ones metabolism and activity level", 3) the rest are fats (especially healthy fats)!
WEEK 21 START PCT

[peachfuzz]

Diamond your post is not allowed and you need to edit it asap. In the future if your second guessing whether or not your post is against board rules or not its probably best not to post it or run it by a mod first.

[D_iamond]

sorry about that i did not get on again to edit. ps RR you are the man all of yoiur posts help me out its kool to be able to listen to advanced guys first hand like this. i was wondering if you could take a look at the thread i started new gear user q's

[F4iGuy]

I'm going to compete in 5 months and looking to add cardio in a way that minimizes muscle loss and maximizes fat loss.
Current stats:
5' 6"
178lbs
9% BF

Goal (in 5 months)
165lbs
5-6% BF

Current Routine:
Mon- Back
Tues-Chest/Abs/17min PWO HIT
Wed-Legs
Thurs-Shoulders/Tris/17min PWO HIT
Fri-Arms/17min PWO HIT
Sat-Rest
Sun-Rest

When would be the best time to add AM Cardio in this routine? I'd like to start with 2 3o minute sessions and go from there. What 2 days would be best? I'm thinking Saturday and Sunday? Keep in mind I'm not using anabolics.

[Ronnie Rowland]

I'm going to compete in 5 months and looking to add cardio in a way that minimizes muscle loss and maximizes fat loss.
Current stats:
5' 6"
178lbs
9% BF

Goal (in 5 months)
165lbs
5-6% BF

Current Routine:
Mon- Back
Tues-Chest/Abs/17min PWO HIT
Wed-Legs
Thurs-Shoulders/Tris/17min PWO HIT
Fri-Arms/17min PWO HIT
Sat-Rest
Sun-Rest

When would be the best time to add AM Cardio in this routine? I'd like to start with 2 3o minute sessions and go from there. What 2 days would be best? I'm thinking Saturday and Sunday? Keep in mind I'm not using anabolics.

1) Do not do HIT cardio as it can burn muscle when cutting carbs. Stick to moderate intensity!
2) It takes very little cardio to burn away muscle when dieting down without steroids. Too much cardio can burn off muscle even while using anabolics so you'l need to rely more on diet and less on cardio.
3) I would not do more than 30-40 minutes of cardio max 3 times per week as it will very likely strip off muscle. I would start at 15 minutes 3 times per week right now to keep your heart healthy but don't increase to 20 minutes until 12 weeks out. At 8 weeks out do 30 minutes and if needed 40 minutes 4 weeks out.
4) You can do cardio at anytime other than leg and back day.

NOTE: These are my recommendations for natural trainers. Those with a fast metabolism should stay with only 15 minutes 3 times per week throughout the entire 12 week diet to prevent muscle loss.

[Coca Cola]

Big Ron

If a person is permanently shutdown and cannot recover anymore, does this means that this person has no chance of having kids in the future (infertile)?

If i'm not mistaken I think there are a lot of pro bb who have kids, do they usually have them before they start their long-year-round-heavy-cycling to be a pro or they have them after they become pro?

[Ronnie Rowland]

Big Ron

If a person is permanently shutdown and cannot recover anymore, does this means that this person has no chance of having kids in the future (infertile)?You'll have to see a fertility specialist to determine how many live sperm, if any, are being produced by your body. Some people have their sperm frozen so they can use it later.

If i'm not mistaken I think there are a lot of pro bb who have kids, do they usually have them before they start their long-year-round-heavy-cycling to be a pro or they have them after they become pro? It varies! This gets back to what I stated earlier-everyone is different.

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[F4iGuy]

1) Do not do HIT cardio as it can burn muscle when cutting carbs. Stick to moderate intensity!
2) It takes very little cardio to burn away muscle when dieting down without steroids. Too much cardio can burn off muscle even while using anabolics so you'l need to rely more on diet and less on cardio.
3) I would not do more than 30-40 minutes of cardio max 3 times per week as it will very likely strip off muscle. I would start at 15 minutes 3 times per week right now to keep your heart healthy but don't increase to 20 minutes until 12 weeks out. At 8 weeks out do 30 minutes and if needed 40 minutes 4 weeks out.
4) You can do cardio at anytime other than leg and back day.

NOTE: These are my recommendations for natural trainers. Those with a fast metabolism should stay with only 15 minutes 3 times per week throughout the entire 12 week diet to prevent muscle loss.

Got it. More questions.

1. If Lifting Mon-Fri (cardio PWO as outlined) should I avoid all forms of cardio on my rest days (Sat+Sun)? I feel like I should be doing something active? Would a light 2 mile jog be OK? If so am fasted or full stomach later in the day?

2. Can you give an opinion on PWO vs AM Fasted cardio?

3. Can you describe your protein egg treat? Are you scrambling+cooking or Rocky style?

I'm really enjoying the results I've obtained following your advice. Many thanks big Ron!

[Ronnie Rowland]

Got it. More questions.

1. If Lifting Mon-Fri (cardio PWO as outlined) should I avoid all forms of cardio on my rest days (Sat+Sun)? I feel like I should be doing something active? Would a light 2 mile jog be OK? If so am fasted or full stomach later in the day? I would certainly take a 2 day break on weekends and unless you are an endomorph I would stay with only 3 days of cardio per week. Your goal is to become lean not stringy!2. Can you give an opinion on PWO vs AM Fasted cardio? I would do cardio post-workout since you are already at the gym. Both ways work but doing it in the morning can fatiques you more before weight training and that's why I feel its best to do it post workout if possible so you can train harder with weights!

3. Can you describe your protein egg treat? Are you scrambling+cooking or Rocky style? I cook them for breakfast then switch over to liquid egg whites (not egg beaters). I drink liquid egg whites raw (can be found at walmart) with a scoop or half a scoop of chocolate protein powder. Mix and drink! Goes good with smat balance peanut butter at night. Add ice cube.I'm really enjoying the results I've obtained following your advice. Many thanks big Ron!Your welcome!

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[Ronnie Rowland]

sorry about that i did not get on again to edit. ps RR you are the man all of yoiur posts help me out its kool to be able to listen to advanced guys first hand like this. i was wondering if you could take a look at the thread i started new gear user q's

Please post your cycle in this thread and I'll take a look at it.

[Jrockk]

NEWBBIE!!!

Hey Ronnie...
Ive read everything you had to say this this forum.
And had to sign up to get some professional info...
and hope you can help when need...
which may be alot.

Im brand new to this...
very first time taking any aas/pro-hormone.
and im planning on taking Anadrol starting
Monday...
Im 25 yrs old...'
6'0 tall...
195lbs...
Ill be working out 4 days a week with a day of rest in between.
Taking in 1.5 gram per pound...so aboout 292 grams/day
and around 3,100 Calories/day.

Any pointers?
are those number too low/ too high?
also its subscribed to take for a 4week cycle...
then PCT for 2-3 weeks...
should i do as prescribed or take it on a 8 week ride, then PCT for
however long...?
Help plz!

-J

[Coca Cola]

Big Ron

I remember what you told me last time the best stack is Test/Tren/Dbol/GH/Slin, and this is how a lot of the pro bb got so big, I hate Tren due to its emotional sides that I get (I'm constantly angry at everything), and I'm not really a fan of Dbol as well (although I still have plenty of them left in my stash) due to its estrogenic side, Winstrol is probably a better choice for me.

You mentioned that Dbol is a great compound to stack with Test that will help break past strength plateaus when Test alone maybe insufficient, how does Winstrol compared to Dbol if used for the same purpose to break past plateaus?

And also since Tren is definitely out for me, and slin is pretty scary stuff and not worth using unless in high level competition like you said, that left me with one other compound I might be interested to try, and that would be GH, would you be able to share with us how to incorporate GH properly into the slingshot cycle, and to avoid the nasty bloated gut side effect?

I've been reading your slingshot training thread again, and I believe your shoulder workout consist of:
Shoulder press 4 sets
Side Lateral 3 sets
Reverse Flies 3 sets

I see a lot of pro bb incorporate front raises into their shoulder routine, what is ur opinion on front raises, why don't u include them in your training?


Thank you so much

[Ronnie Rowland]

Big Ron

I remember what you told me last time the best stack is Test/Tren/Dbol/GH/Slin, and this is how a lot of the pro bb got so big, I hate Tren due to its emotional sides that I get (I'm constantly angry at everything), and I'm not really a fan of Dbol as well (although I still have plenty of them left in my stash) due to its estrogenic side, Winstrol is probably a better choice for me.

You mentioned that Dbol is a great compound to stack with Test that will help break past strength plateaus when Test alone maybe insufficient, how does Winstrol compared to Dbol if used for the same purpose to break past plateaus? Winstrol is not going to provide strength gains like d-bol for the majority as it's more of a hardening agent. Winstrol can make the tendons weaker over time which IMO makes it a bad choice while bulking if you are prone to join/tendon pain during it's use. Some do good on winnie (mostly younger people with strong tendons) but it's not as good as d-bol for gaining strength. You'll have to give it a try and see how you do on it to know for sure.
And also since Tren is definitely out for me, and slin is pretty scary stuff and not worth using unless in high level competition like you said, that left me with one other compound I might be interested to try, and that would be GH, would you be able to share with us how to incorporate GH properly into the slingshot cycle, and to avoid the nasty bloated gut side effect? About the best thing you could do to avoid increasing the size of your gut while using GH would be to take only 4ius ed over a long period of time (6 months or longer).

I've been reading your slingshot training thread again, and I believe your shoulder workout consist of:
Shoulder press 4 sets
Side Lateral 3 sets
Reverse Flies 3 sets

I see a lot of pro bb incorporate front raises into their shoulder routine, what is ur opinion on front raises, why don't u include them in your training? You do not need front raises. Overhead pressing movements and chest work takes care of the front delts. Front raises would be okay for someone who could not do over head presses.


Thank you so much

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[Ronnie Rowland]

newbbie!!!

Hey ronnie...
Ive read everything you had to say this this forum.
And had to sign up to get some professional info...
And hope you can help when need...
Which may be alot.

Im brand new to this...
Very first time taking any aas/pro-hormone.
And im planning on taking anadrol starting
monday...
Im 25 yrs i do not recommend anadrol for a first time cycle. Its way too toxic and will probably make you nauseated (kill you appetite). Test is best for first time cycle.6'0 tall...
195lbs...
Ill be working out 4 days a week with a day of rest in between.
Taking in 1.5 gram per pound...so aboout 292 grams/day
and around 3,100 calories/day.

Any pointers?
Are those number too low/ too high? no way to tell about calories but protein looks good.also its subscribed to take for a 4week cycle...you need a 20 week cycle of test. 4 weeks of anadrol is a waste imo
then pct for 2-3 weeks...
Should i do as prescribed or take it on a 8 week ride, then pct for
however long...?
Help plz! can you get test e or cyp?

-j

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[Matt380va]

I was looking to start taking steroids but I wasn't exactly sure on which would be best for me. I run track and I was looking to possibly get faster if not atleast gain a good amount of mass, Any suggestions?

[VASCULAR VINCE]

ronnie we miss you brother...is it a good idea to run test cyp up to day of show when using letro??? or... best to drop test cyp 3 weeks out... while continuing letro and using test prop until few days out???

[Ronnie Rowland]

ronnie we miss you brother...is it a good idea to run test cyp up to day of show when using letro??? or... best to drop test cyp 3 weeks out... while continuing letro and using test prop until few days out???

I would forget test prop as it will cause you to lump up and possibly cause you to lose points. My advice is to continue test cypionate until two weeks out from show. Inject around 2 ccs of test 2 weeks out and that will be your last shot of test. Start letro on the same day you drop test (2 weeks out). By doing so you can still come in full but not hold water

[Ronnie Rowland]

I was looking to start taking steroids but I wasn't exactly sure on which would be best for me. I run track and I was looking to possibly get faster if not atleast gain a good amount of mass, Any suggestions?

How old are you and how long have you been training?

[jblazed]

How much is 150 mgs in a ml dart?

[VASCULAR VINCE]

ronnie..learned more from this thread... than trainers i have paid on line..your the best!!!

[Coca Cola]

Ronnie

Thank you so much for answering all my questions, I have learned a lot even though I haven't been here for a long time. I still have much to learn, and I hope you won't get sick of answering every questions I might throw at you.

In regards to some of your answers, you mentioned that 4iu of gh is safe enough to avoid bloated gut effect, how to dose this properly? one single dose of 4iu upon waking? or split the shot? if splitting the shot, when will the second shot should be taken?

I'm very curious about the development of the deltoid muscle that a lot of the pro bb has nowadays, their delts are truly like a bowling bowl, its so big and stand out, and if i compare like back in the day of arnold, even though he has big shoulders, but it doesn't have that bowling ball look that sticks out front side and back, what do u think makes the difference? is it training? or do pros nowadays use special site enhancement to get that look on their delts?

Been reading your slingshot training again, i get kinda confused with prime and deload, I realized that during prime its ok not to train at all, but if i still want to keep on training, what sets it apart to a deload?

From my understanding both prime and deload use 12-15 rep range, and use 3-6 sets per body part? so in a way they are kinda similar, no? Can't figure out whats the difference?

Thanks Ron for clarifying this for me.

[Ronnie Rowland]

ronnie

thank you so much for answering all my questions, i have learned a lot even though i haven't been here for a long time. I still have much to learn, and i hope you won't get sick of answering every questions i might throw at you.

In regards to some of your answers, you mentioned that 4iu of gh is safe enough to avoid bloated gut effect, how to dose this properly? One single dose of 4iu upon waking? Or split the shot? If splitting the shot, when will the second shot should be taken? take all 4ius at night before going to bed.

i'm very curious about the development of the deltoid muscle that a lot of the pro bb has nowadays, their delts are truly like a bowling bowl, its so big and stand out, and if i compare like back in the day of arnold, even though he has big shoulders, but it doesn't have that bowling ball look that sticks out front side and back, what do u think makes the difference? Is it training? synthol, less training volume, more drugs, diet and a larger population of gentically gifted people or do pros nowadays use special site enhancement to get that look on their delts?

Been reading your slingshot training again, i get kinda confused with prime and deload, i realized that during prime its ok not to train at all, but if i still want to keep on training, what sets it apart to a deload? the prime is merely a lay-off once you hit total burnout or go on vacation. Its good to take 1-3 weeks off from all training every year. During the deload you train all out but with less volume and higher reps (10-15 reps)
from my understanding both prime and deload use 12-15 rep range, and use 3-6 sets per body part? So in a way they are kinda similar, no? Can't figure out whats the difference? 10-15 reps is good and i would just take off completely during a prime. You probably read some of my older material.
thanks ron for clarifying this for me.

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[Ronnie Rowland]

How much is 150 mgs in a ml dart?

Depends on how many mgs are in each ml.

[The Observer]

Thanks a lot Ron, you have been more helpful than anyone else I deal with. I'm 29 years old with two kids, thinking about having maybe one more in a few years and that would be it which is why I am hesitant to take the drastic measures. I don't compete as of yet, it's something I'd like to do but I think my time is limited since I started taking training serious way too late in my life.

[Ronnie Rowland]

Thanks a lot Ron, you have been more helpful than anyone else I deal with. I'm 29 years old with two kids, thinking about having maybe one more in a few years and that would be it which is why I am hesitant to take the drastic measures. I don't compete as of yet, it's something I'd like to do but I think my time is limited since I started taking training serious way too late in my life.

In your shoes I would take off 8 weeks after each 20 week cycle. Do full PCT after cycle and it wouldn't hurt to do some HCG during deloads.

[The Observer]

In your shoes I would take off 8 weeks after each 20 week cycle. Do full PCT after cycle and it wouldn't hurt to do some HCG during deloads.

Will do, sounds like something I had in mind, thank you.

[Thing]

I have both sust. 250 and d bol injectable what do you think is the best way to take them I mean do i take tham at the same time or both at diff. times ?

[Ronnie Rowland]

I have both sust. 250 and d bol injectable what do you think is the best way to take them I mean do i take tham at the same time or both at diff. times ?

Same time is fine.

[5a_reductase]

Ronnie, I have to say this is the best information I heard and seen on the internet so far. I've said it before and I'll say it again, you can always tell and internet user because of all the BS they talk about. Your info here is right on point, I might add that this is how the pro's do it.

[F4iGuy]

1. Prep set: 4-8 reps (2 reps shy of failure) and 4 minutes rest correct?

2. My current Deload (Using chest for example)
Decline bench: Prep set, 4-6, 8-10
Incline bench: 8-10, 8-10
Twist Flyes: 8-10

Should I eliminate prep sets and 4-6 rep ranges for deloads?

Should all sets be around 10-15 reps instead of 8-10?

[VASCULAR VINCE]

ronnie...i have put a whole 1 inch on my arms with... slingshot training...i feel like an idiot over-training..and lifting with improper form...for far too many years.

two questions..are hand held bodyfat testers accurate??? letro or arimidex going into a show????

[Ronnie Rowland]

ronnie...i have put a whole 1 inch on my arms with... Slingshot training...i feel like an idiot over-training..awesome! and lifting with improper form...for far too many years. i understand!
two questions..are hand held bodyfat testers accurate??? They are off by about 7% so no they are not accurate! Letro or arimidex going into a show????letro is best because it kills more estrogen

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[Ronnie Rowland]

1. prep set: 4-8 reps (2 reps shy of failure) and 4 minutes rest correct? about 4-5 reps shy of failure and 2 1/2 minutes rest between sets as it's only the last warm up set. Do not fatigue yourself on prep set.
2. My current deload (using chest for example)
decline bench: Prep set, 4-6, 8-10
incline bench: 8-10, 8-10
twist flyes: 8-10

should i eliminate prep sets and 4-6 rep ranges for deloads? yes
should all sets be around 10-15 reps instead of 8-10? yes, stay with 10-15

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[Juicedupmonkey]

Ronnie I'm about to start PCT, it wouldn't be a good idea to be doing a carb cycling diet during now would it? And I'm currently working out in the evening so is it still gonna work the same If I just make my first meal carb/pro then PreWO and PWO then all the others are pro/fat. And my last meal is pro/fat

[Ronnie Rowland]

[QUOTE=Juicedupmonkey;5127884]Ronnie I'm about to start PCT, it wouldn't be a good idea to be doing a carb cycling diet during now would it? IF YOU ARE ON A CUTTING PHASE THEN STICK TO CARB CYCLING OR YOU'LL GAIN BACK THE BODY FAT. And I'm currently working out in the evening so is it still gonna work the same YESIf I just make my first meal carb/pro then PreWO and PWO then all the others are pro/fat. And my last meal is pro/fat THAT IS A GOOD STRATEGY![/QUOTE]ABOVE