Guys! It's time to learn how to FU*KING tip!

[bermich]

There was a thread like this awhile back that got pretty heated. It was kinda funny.

I disagree with the tipping EVEN if the waiter sucks. There are tons of variables we can debate about for five pages but once again, if the service makes me not wanna go back, dont count on a good tip.
Im NOT aware of the waiters personal finances (college, car payment, etc) It is not my concern. I do not give out money just because you feel you deserve it cause you are going to school. You are NOT the only person trying to make ends meet while going to college.
If you feel the pay is not good enough, you might consider a second job or perhaps a different job.

[chicamahomico]

I dunno what it's like in your area of CAN but in BC minimum wage is over $8 bucks an hour. The rest of my post isn't directed at you SK, I quoted you because of the mininmum wage thing only.

I know dozens and dozens of servers in every type pf setting you can imagine and it's all the same ballgame. Servers are panhandlers in a place of business IMO. Call me old school wop but in my world as soon as a person expects money from me above and beyond what I agreed to pay for a good or service ( ie menu price ) then I get unhappy. I don't mind tipping a reasonable amount but it is 100% up to my discretion whether or not to tip a server and it is not my job to subsidize a server's lifestyle or education with tax free handouts. And anyone who would put something in the food, I seriously hope they never get caught doing that to the wrong person.

Actually, that's not true. Waiters/Waitresses gets what is called servers minimum wage. This is typicallty a fraction of regular minimum wage since as a standard, they rely on tips as part of their pay. Many servers get $3-$5/hour only since they are also suppose to get tips. So basically if they don't get tipped they get screwed.

[PrairieDawg]

tipping is over rated. if the waitress wants a tip she can come over to my place when her shift is done.

No I'm usually a big tipper because I'm normally a nice guy and would feel guilty if I didnt. But all I want is my ****ing food and not seem like an asshole if I dont do something I shouldnt need to do in the first place. Retaurants should pay their waitresses more than below minimum wage if its such an epidemic.

My ex waitresses at restaurants and bars and she makes more in 1 or 2 nights in tips alone than I would in a week (and my job pays half decent too!). If she speaks for most servers I don't see a huge problem

[PrairieDawg]

I dunno what it's like in your area of CAN but in BC minimum wage is over $8 bucks an hour. The rest of my post isn't directed at you SK, I quoted you because of the mininmum wage thing only.

alot of restaurants pay below mininmum wage though. but if they're getting paid mininmum then I totally agree!

[Flasher]

Fuk that, a tip is if you had good service...if they service sucked you get squat! Don't like minmum wage? Talk to management or change jobs. Who the hell said leavin a tip is mandatory anyways?

[Fat Guy]

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[Fat Guy]

To all of you who don't like to tip because you are cheap/bitter/angry , or if you are just plain mean/rude to your servers for no good reason other than you are just an a$$hole.......just remember one thing...

The people who serve you have access to your food and drinks. Some of them are also bitter/angry and will do some nasty, disgusting, unmentionable things to your orders. I personally would not myself but there are others out there who would not hesitate and I have seen it done a number of times.

Just something to think about next time you wanna be an a$$hole to your server or you don't tip them....you may want to be a little nicer to them next time, they are people too.

Hey, if they do not like the job...they can do other jobs. Servers have it cushy...usually in air conditioned climate, around food, and usually attractive friendly people who they work with. Give me a break! It is not like roofing in a 120-degree heat only making $8 hour or like the soldier in Iraq only making $1,300.00 a month working 65+ hours a week in life threatening conditions. These are the guys who deserve tips, not some crybaby whose hardest day includes getting their aprons dirty and crying because someone did not leave them 10% of the check…You do not like it, then get a new job. Oh yeah I love to catch someone messing with my food…

[Soldier of Misfortune]

Why do they base tipping off of how much the bill is? What if you and a date are out and have a $20 bill for a cupple 7 or 8 dollar entrees and a two or three drinks, thats pretty standard right? Now what if you and the same date go to the same food joint and have the same server w/ the same quality service and go out and have a more expensive dinner, like $50 for entrees and still the same amout of drinks? Its still bringing the same amout of food and drinks so why should the tip go up for the price of food? The waiter didnt do any thing special, they just annoyed cooks like me yelling if thier food was up yet. If anything the cooks should get the extra tips because theyre the ones who have to prepare $hit and make it all pretty lookin so customers can tear it apart. Rarely do I get tips for assembling carryout orders, and its often from the same people (car dealership owners for one). I still think the hostess keeps half the tips from those.

As for my tipping, flat rate 15% and goes lower if $hitty service, unless its a hott waitress, then extra.

Pleas put any flames in my flame jar, I only make 2.30 posts an hour here!

[Peter Gibbons]

when i go to restaurants, i give at least 20 percent if not more. At Hooter's i find myself giving like 50% which is absurd as i know i'm not going home with any of them. When i chill at the bar, i give a buck here and there, just because i don't feel like telling the bartender to keep the change from a five dollar bill when the drink was 3.50. On about every other drink i give her a dollar. It makes me think i am giving her less, however, shes still getting about 50 cents per drink, which is like 20 %, when she is only taking a Bud Light out of the fridge and popping the top off and setting it on the napkin in front of me. Whats next, tipping doctors for a successful procedure?

[LORDBLiTZ]

Here's a tip....GET A NEW JOB!

[ironfist]

To all of you who don't like to tip because you are cheap/bitter/angry , or if you are just plain mean/rude to your servers for no good reason other than you are just an a$$hole.......just remember one thing...

The people who serve you have access to your food and drinks. Some of them are also bitter/angry and will do some nasty, disgusting, unmentionable things to your orders. I personally would not myself but there are others out there who would not hesitate and I have seen it done a number of times.

Just something to think about next time you wanna be an a$$hole to your server or you don't tip them....you may want to be a little nicer to them next time, they are people too.

I'll leave at least 10% most of the time. I think I've only stiffed someone maybe once but it's gotta be really bad. Not just screwing up orders but they have to be an asshole to boot...

[elicotton]

What's the rule for buffets? I only do buffets.

[Slick Arrado]

I'll leave at least 10% most of the time. I think I've only stiffed someone maybe once but it's gotta be really bad. Not just screwing up orders but they have to be an asshole to boot...

I'm with Ironfist: I'll almost always leave a tip, 10% is probably right. Now, if the service was great the server can expect 25%. Please servers, don't try to tell people if they should or shouldn't tip. It's up to each individual patron and we're all different. :spudniklu

[damiongage]

What's the rule for buffets? I only do buffets.

$1 per person at the table.....as long as they remove your plates promptly

[Red Ketchup]

Not just screwing up orders but they have to be an asshole to boot...

Actuelly, I don't cut or lower tip for screwing up orders or when the food is not that great if the the waiter is OK and does a proper job. After all everyone makes mistakes, and the waiter shouldn't have to pay for the cooks mistakes.

For me the tip is base on the service.

Of course if the food was bad, even if the waiter gets a tip chances are I will never return to that restaurant... but thats not the waiters fault.

Red

[SexyKitty]

Hey, if they do not like the job...they can do other jobs. Servers have it cushy...usually in air conditioned climate, around food, and usually attractive friendly people who they work with. Give me a break! It is not like roofing in a 120-degree heat only making $8 hour or like the soldier in Iraq only making $1,300.00 a month working 65+ hours a week in life threatening conditions. These are the guys who deserve tips, not some crybaby whose hardest day includes getting their aprons dirty and crying because someone did not leave them 10% of the check…You do not like it, then get a new job. Oh yeah I love to catch someone messing with my food…

Ummm.....not crying here FatGuy, just telling you what happens when servers put up with rude a$$holes that they are waiting on (and no, I'm not refering to myself I love my job). Unfortunately it's a reality that this sh*t happens, I wouldn't be surprised if its happened to you. Obviously people have a choice as to how they are going to earn a living....and if they don't like their jobs enough they would leave but I mean.....gimme a break, you saying you've never complained about your job before? Everyone choses what they do INCLUDING the roofer and soldier you refer to so I certainly don't feel sorry for anyone, no ones twisting anyones arm. The bottom line is this thread was about "THE SERVICE" industry. Unfortunately in this world service of any kind does not come for free, why do you think tipping is a fu*king industry standard, you have to pay for the food AND the service. So just like you think people should quit their jobs if they don't like them....then stay the Fu*k at home and serve your own fu*king food.

[damiongage]

Ummm.....not crying here FatGuy, just telling you what happens when servers put up with rude a$$holes that they are waiting on (and no, I'm not refering to myself I love my job). Unfortunately it's a reality that this sh*t happens, I wouldn't be surprised if its happened to you. Obviously people have a choice as to how they are going to earn a living....and if they don't like their jobs enough they would leave but I mean.....gimme a break, you saying you've never complained about your job before? Everyone choses what they do INCLUDING the roofer and soldier you refer to so I certainly don't feel sorry for anyone, no ones twisting anyones arm. The bottom line is this thread was about "THE SERVICE" industry. Unfortunately in this world service of any kind does not come for free, why do you think tipping is a fu*king industry standard, you have to pay for the food AND the service. So just like you think people should quit their jobs if they don't like them....then stay the Fu*k at home and serve your own fu*king food.

WOOOOOOOWWW...You get em girl......

[co2boi]

I live in Atlanta and the whole tipping thing is fuking ridiculous. I pull my car into a half empty parking lot and a parking attendant wants $20 to hook me up with a close spot, when I don't even want him to park my car in the first place. I can park my own car, I can turn on the water and dry my own hands, spray my own cologne, and a drive through should not have servers, that's what windows are for.

[Slick Arrado]

So just like you think people should quit their jobs if they don't like them....then stay the Fu*k at home and serve your own fu*king food.

Or go to a different restaurant.

[co2boi]

Busy bartenders deserve the biggest tips. Those people bust their asses. I also tip on the person, not the tab. It's not like a $30 9-oz filet is somehow heavier and more labor intensive than a chicken sandwich. Why don't the cooks get to split the tips? Their jobs are hard too.

[Red Ketchup]

Unfortunately in this world service of any kind does not come for free, why do you think tipping is a fu*king industry standard, you have to pay for the food AND the service.

I agree, but why do you think the food has a fixed price but the service is a "suggested" 15%?

In my book thats quite simlpy because you are expected to pay for the service according to what it's worth. Most of the time it's worth every penny, sometimes it's exceptionnal and worth more, sometimes there is no service to speak of and it deserves nothing.

How much would you tip this waitress?

- From the moment the hostess seated us, it took her over 15 minutes to come offer us drinks, get our orders
- When she did show up, she gave us the attitude (kinda like we were bothering her)
- The food took an eternity to get to us, and was cold when we got it.
- She never checked on us to see if we needed anything, or refill water glasses
- When we wanted another bottle of wine we had to ask the busboy! Signalling to her didn't seem to work, she was too busy yapping away with other busboys at the back...
- It didn't get better from there...

As someone who works in the service industry, would YOU tip her?

Well, my party sure as heck didn't. 2 people in my party paid thru their college studies with waitress jobs and they were the most pi$$ed off, this ended up in a "meet the manager" session.

Red

[SexyKitty]

Why don't the cooks get to split the tips? Their jobs are hard too.

Where I work they do...the kitchen staff gets a certain percentage of the gratuities for that night. But your right, for the most part they get squat.

[SexyKitty]

I agree, but why do you think the food has a fixed price but the service is a "suggested" 15%?

In my book thats quite simlpy because you are expected to pay for the service according to what it's worth. Most of the time it's worth every penny, sometimes it's exceptionnal and worth more, sometimes there is no service to speak of and it deserves nothing.

How much would you tip this waitress?

- From the moment the hostess seated us, it took her over 15 minutes to come offer us drinks, get our orders
- When she did show up, she gave us the attitude (kinda like we were bothering her)
- The food took an eternity to get to us, and was cold when we got it.
- She never checked on us to see if we needed anything, or refill water glasses
- When we wanted another bottle of wine we had to ask the busboy! Signalling to her didn't seem to work, she was too busy yapping away with other busboys at the back...
- It didn't get better from there...

As someone who works in the service industry, would YOU tip her?

Well, my party sure as heck didn't. 2 people in my party paid thru their college studies with waitress jobs and they were the most pi$$ed off, this ended up in a "meet the manager" session.

Red

I agree with you 100%. As someone who works in the service industry....I expect the same kind of service I would give and nothing less. Sometimes I think my standards are higher than some people because I know what good service is. I'm not saying the crappiest waiter/waitress should get a tip.....the amount of tip should totally based on the level of service you get. Your example above....I don't think I would leave nothing, but it would be very little, I have left nothing before however. I've had such bad service at times I thought it was a friggen joke...like I was on candid camera or somethin.

The whole point I was trying to make was that when we are talking about at the very least average service but not lousy service, some sort of gratuity is expected because service is not free....otherwise everything would be buffet or drive through.

Tipping is always up to the customers discretion. However, my comments were directed at people who think they shouldn't have to tip no matter what!....like they just deserve to be waited on for free....like they're the fu*king Queen or something. Those are the people who should stay at home, the ones who want to be served well but don't want to pay for it.

[decadbal]

i believe a little diff.. if they suck...they get nada... if they are good then who knows, but a tip for a bad waiter... not gonna happen....

[elicotton]

i believe a little diff.. if they suck...they get nada... if they are good then who knows, but a tip for a bad waiter... not gonna happen....

I agree 100%. I have noticed that bad servers are usually not in the business long. Prolly quit and whine about not making enough money, when the money was there for the taking if they'd work for it.

[doctorcc]

I guess the point I'm trying to make here is based on rule #3! I'm a wonderful waiter guys- honestly- and it bugs the hell outta me when I am right on top of things, and I get the shaft. Some family the other night, invited another family out to dinner (at our 4 star restaurant). It seemed like a rare occasion for both the families to be out at a nice restaurant, so I wanted them to feel like royalty- gave them 110% with their service. Those guys left me $5 each when the bill came. Five bucks is a piss in the face!
I'm just saying- please give credit where credit is due.

[Diesel]

At times I tip way to much. Hell if I get a couple of coffee's at the Dunkin Donuts I'll throw $1+ in the tip cup.
However, if a waiter/waitress sucks they are getting sh!t!

I usually base my tip on my water glass....if it runs empty.....your getting screwed!

D

[doctorcc]

(In responce to a PM)...No racism ment by the comment. I hope I didn't offend, but I get the shaft by Mexicans so often that I finally told the hostesses not to seat them in my sections. I think they are a wonderful people--- they just waste my time when it comes to me serving them. I'll edit it for the sake of your comment. Wouldn't want anyone to take offence. Thanks for your comment.

[co2boi]

(In responce to a PM)...No racism ment by the comment. I hope I didn't offend, but I get the shaft by Mexicans so often that I finally told the hostesses not to seat them in my sections. I think they are a wonderful people--- they just waste my time when it comes to me serving them. I'll edit it for the sake of your comment. Wouldn't want anyone to take offence. Thanks for your comment.

I think that's a sociological thing, not a race thing. Although they are synonymous in many ways. I can't say from experience, but based on what I know about Mexico, I doubt it's citizens are accustomed to leaving a tip. They probably think you are above fortunate to have a job. That's in no way intended as a cut down to anyone, just an observation.

[doctorcc]

I think that's a sociological thing, not a race thing. Although they are synonymous in many ways. I can't say from experience, but based on what I know about Mexico, I doubt it's citizens are accustomed to leaving a tip.

Yup- yup... My fiance works on the Strip, and she says the same thing about Asians and English. It's not that we have something against them, we just prefer not to wait on them. It's the same with her, she's a great waitress, but gets the shaft too often.

[rocco78]

A friend of mine waits tables in Seattle, and Bill Gates eats at her restaurant, and tips 10 fuking measly percent. That's just messed up, considering she only has 3 tables max so that everyone is ensured GREAT service.
That's just lame, imo.

[co2boi]

A friend of mine waits tables in Seattle, and Bill Gates eats at her restaurant, and tips 10 fuking measly percent. That's just messed up, considering she only has 3 tables max so that everyone is ensured GREAT service.
That's just lame, imo.

Yeah man. Sometimes people expect too much of people that are loaded, but give me a fukin break man. He's worth 50+ billions friggin dollars and he can't at least throw out a 20. I'd kick his ass, take his wallet, and fuk his women in the arse right in front of him

[chicamahomico]

Also, I feel I should point out that club bartenders are in a different league than 'regular' servers. I tip these guys and gals far more than I tip restaurant workers becasue tipping them does something for me. You tip a club bartender well and you get drinks fast, bump the line, etc.

I think everyone should take a moment and think about excatly how much you spend on tipping in one year (servers excluded from this becasue servers tipping other servers is good for their image and their own tips). I dunno what my amount is yet but so far its about 6 months and I'm well in excess of $500 and I don't eat at expensive places. Does that sound like a rational way to spend my after tax dollars?

[chicamahomico]

Depends. I noticed you didn't mention the amount of a normal bill but once the bill gets to exceed about $200 and you're only their for an hour then 10% is more than enough. My buddy is the same way, he serves at a place where bills routines hit 3K for a table of 6-8 and expects the standard 15-20%.....yeah like I'm kicking up $500 for a tip on an hour or two of work for someone. Just becasue he's Bill Gates and worth a zillion dollars doesn't mean your buddy should be his next charity case.

A friend of mine waits tables in Seattle, and Bill Gates eats at her restaurant, and tips 10 fuking measly percent. That's just messed up, considering she only has 3 tables max so that everyone is ensured GREAT service.
That's just lame, imo.

[monstercojones]

1. If the waiter sucks.....Do not tip. Infact ask for the manager and complain. I do not reward people for poor service. Still leaving a tip for bad service is why customer service is what it is today. Pathetic for the most part.

2. If the service is OK-good....TIP 15-20%. I realize that most people do work very hard and this is tipically what I leave.

3. If the service is great. Tip over 20% uasally 33% or 1/3 the bill. In this case you should also ask to speak to the manager, if you are going to complain about bad service you should also be prepeared to give credit where credit is due. This type of thing can lead to some getting better tables, shifts, and possibly promotions.

just my opinion

i agree here. i pretty much always tip well. the only times i end up not tipped well are when the service is bad to the point that it detracts from my enjoying my meal and or when i'm with 10 other college students and none of them want to leave a good tip and i end up throwing an extra $7 for my $16-$20 worth of food/drinks.

always tip your bartenders well, they usually work solely on tips, they deal with alot of a$sholes, and how fast they serve you has a direct impact on how much you enjoy your night out.

[Soldier of Misfortune]

Busy bartenders deserve the biggest tips. Those people bust their asses. I also tip on the person, not the tab. It's not like a $30 9-oz filet is somehow heavier and more labor intensive than a chicken sandwich. Why don't the cooks get to split the tips? Their jobs are hard too.

YES, thats what Im sayin. We cooks are the ones gettin burned the whole nite and our environment isnt air conditioned over the fryers its at least 100degrees and around the grills is at least 115 degrees in the summer. Getting splashed w/ fryer grease gets old after about the 2nd time.

[Fat Guy]

(In responce to a PM)...No racism ment by the comment. I hope I didn't offend, but I get the shaft by Mexicans so often that I finally told the hostesses not to seat them in my sections. I think they are a wonderful people--- they just waste my time when it comes to me serving them. I'll edit it for the sake of your comment. Wouldn't want anyone to take offence. Thanks for your comment.

No racism meant by the comment… My a$$. You will not wait on them just because they are Mexican and they just waste your time… Wow, that is the most racist and bigoted thing I have ever heard… In addition, the comment they are wonderful people is like saying I have a black friend too, so you see I am not a racist. I am half Mexican and I want to let you know your comments are offensive.
Maybe one of the reasons Mexicans do not tip as much is because in general my people work some hard A$$ jobs for very little pay (a lot of times pay that is below minimum wage) and do not view working in some air conditioned, cushy, friendly environment as working extremely hard. Most of my cousins work 9 to 10 hours a day in the hottest, dirtiest, dangerous jobs so they can earn sometimes just $50 bucks a day so they can support their Families. And you are crying about not receiving your 10% on some overpriced 5 star restaurant. I would be willing to bet you make more than fifty bucks a day and you probably do not come home drenched in sweat and dirt. Save you sad racist stories for someone else because I am not buying it. You got school bills to pay give me a fricken break! My uncle Rudy bust his A$$ on a roof all day so he can feed his family of 6 and he never once complains. I guess that is the difference between spoiled upper middle class white kids who have had not to work hard in their life for the better things in life and hard working poor Mexican-Americans who barely can afford shoes for their kids. My conclusion for this topic is it is typical to hear people complain who have had it cushy and their expectations have not been meet. Mexicans are a hard working PROUD people who do not want anything from anyone and will overcome the many racist obstacles in society and you will not hear us complaining about some group of people owing us something. OH yeah and one more thing concerning your racist comments …F**K YOU!
VIVA LA RAZA!

[50%Natural]

****, i'll admit it, i don't like waiting on mexicans either...not that mexican people suck, it is just that they(not all, but a majority) don't know how to tip and from a business standpoint it would make sense that I don't want to wait on them..."your people?" Why do people say that?

[Fat Guy]

Ummm.....not crying here FatGuy So just like you think people should quit their jobs if they don't like them....then stay the Fu*k at home and serve your own fu*king food.

Sounds like crying to me...
If I go to a restaurant, I owe the server NOTHING… and they will still wait on me because it is their job and if they don’t’ well I guess that they will soon loose their job. It is just that plain and simple. My tip is just a bit of gratitude and nothing more and is not an entitlement. So please get over yourself in thinking that people owe you. It is your job and if you do not like it Quit or STFU.

[Fat Guy]

****, i'll admit it, i don't like waiting on mexicans either...not that mexican people suck, it is just that they(not all, but a majority) don't know how to tip and from a business standpoint it would make sense that I don't want to wait on them..."your people?" Why do people say that?

Because I am a Proud Mexican and that is my bloodline / Race … Is there a problem with that?