Bush is laughs..........

[ttuPrincess]

Said Bush, "I own a timber company? That's news to me."

How exactly was i wrong when i corrected someone with this?

[Phillyboy1]

How exactly was i wrong when i corrected someone with this?

yes you were corrected, he techniquely does own one. read a few posts up or the one i made on AM. and youll see. and you corrected someone that was being sarcastic about bush owning it, meaning you were agreeing with them that kerry just made it up (like all the lies the repubs tell ya about kerry) he just makes stuff up. but then in the end it turns out that his so called lies are truth.

[ttuPrincess]

i wasnt agreeing with anything i was correcting his Bush quote

[Phillyboy1]

i wasnt agreeing with anything i was correcting his Bush quote

so you belive he has the company? cause if that is the case then i apoligize for what i said above. i took your statment as sarcastic meaning he really didnt own one either. if thats the case then im sorry to misiterperate your posts.

[ttuPrincess]

i dont know if he had it or not... im not Bush and nor do i believe 100 % of what i read on the internet or hear onthe news. so No i dont know if he had anything to do with it

[Phillyboy1]

i dont know if he had it or not... im not Bush and nor do i believe 100 % of what i read on the internet or hear onthe news. so No i dont know if he had anything to do with it

so you think kerry just made it up?

[ttuPrincess]

i just told you i dont know.. Im not Bush or Kerry.. who knows... im sure if i wanted to go research i could find the answer but you know what it doesnt matter to me,.....

[Phillyboy1]

i just told you i dont know.. Im not Bush or Kerry.. who knows... im sure if i wanted to go research i could find the answer but you know what it doesnt matter to me,.....

lol ok good answer

[KGBnine]

nuetral also, but at least Bush doesn't need a cheat sheet in order to debate. It's a sad day when people of high authority are embraced for cheating...wonder why it's such a problem with kids on school.

[Spyder]

i missed last nights debate ... does anyone know of a link on the internet where I can watch it? (not cnn, you have to pay to see their videos)

[Phillyboy1]

i missed last nights debate ... does anyone know of a link on the internet where I can watch it? (not cnn, you have to pay to see their videos)

MSN.com has it i think

[IronReload04]

i missed last nights debate ... does anyone know of a link on the internet where I can watch it? (not cnn, you have to pay to see their videos)

www.msn.com

[PiecinItUp]

Boy I can't wait for this election to be over....oh, im for bush. Kerry is a pansy, countries that hate us will see this....terroist attacks...my opinion anyway

[Elliot]

I don't understand what's the logic of a bush voter? Do you think that Kerry is going to just liquidate our military and the "evil doers" are going to swim to our shores in kayanks and attack with shoulder missiles? Let's be serious..

[Phillyboy1]

I don't understand what's the logic of a bush voter? Do you think that Kerry is going to just liquidate our military and the "evil doers" are going to swim to our shores in kayanks and attack with shoulder missiles? Let's be serious..

exactly, i dont get it either? ive never talked to so many flat out scared people in my life

[chris64]

If you vote for Kerry, youre a loser. You want the government to take money from successful, hard-working people and give it to you. You have no confidence in your ability to survive on your own. I feel sorry for all you poor, socialist bastards.

[Elliot]

If you vote for Kerry, youre a loser. You want the government to take money from successful, hard-working people and give it to you. You have no confidence in your ability to survive on your own. I feel sorry for all you poor, socialist bastards.

Yeah.. we all know how hard it is to cash thoes intrest checks.. i mean Kerry's wife is just breaking her back.. and please if you dont have a vaild point dont speak at all..

[Phillyboy1]

If you vote for Kerry, youre a loser. You want the government to take money from successful, hard-working people and give it to you. You have no confidence in your ability to survive on your own. I feel sorry for all you poor, socialist bastards.

**** thats funny cause last time i checked i own two business's that are very successful? but your right about one thing, i dont work hard at all

[SwoleCat]

**** thats funny cause last time i checked i own two business's that are very successful? but your right about one thing, i dont work hard at all

Same here bro!

Kudos to you and I, Kerry, and our BigPimpin'!!!!!



~SC~

[chris64]

**** thats funny cause last time i checked i own two business's that are very successful? but your right about one thing, i dont work hard at all

If youre hard-working and successful, then why the hell would you want to vote for John Kerry? Do you enjoy giving your money to the government? I own a technology consulting company and two restaurants (total of 78 employees). The tax cuts and accelerated depreciation that Bush offered small businesses allowed me to expand and hire more people. So although I got a tax break, I was able to hire 23 additional people who are now paying taxes and spending. Why is this concept so hard for liberals to understand? Let people keep more of their money and they'll spend it or invest it. As far as the war goes, you're foolish if you think that UN "sanctions" were going to be successful. Saddam, the French, and various UN officials were bringing in billions on the oil for food program while the Iraqi people were starving. If we didnt take care of him today, then we would have had to deal with him in 5, 10, or 20 years. Why not eliminate that kind of threat now rather than having our children do it later? I really try to understand the mentality of a person who would vote for Kerry, but I just can't.

[SwoleCat]

You all swear like Kerry is going to surrender the f*cking U.S. to another country.

"I FEEL SAFE W/BUSH" is the claim of Bush supporters.

WHY???????? Because he is PURPOSELY STARTING SH*T WITH OTHER COUNTRIES TO FIGHT BATTLES HIS DAD COULDN'T WIN???????

Wake up!!!!!!!!!

No President is going to let our country be a "b*tch". However, it's possible for us to be able to "punk" other countries w/out having to resort to stupid sh*t like this war.

Bush is a ****in' idiot, plain/simple, and has no respect for minorities at all.

Just go to www.breakbushoff.com

~SC~

[carbs-rule]

Screw both Kerry and Bush, Nader and the rest of them. I've noticed a few trends in dialogue on American politics.
1. The rich get richer, the poor get poorer.
What right does the government have to take more money from some and less than others? Why do we let the government plan our healthcare when they have never once delivered on something they don't have a monopoly over (and even when they have the monopoly, they do a terrible job). Social security? What a play on semantics! I would rather have the government leave my money alone so I can plan my own future instead of them breaking even or less due to inflation and the upcoming baby boomer crisis. What right do you have to steal, by force via the federal government, the rich's money and give it to the poor? Are you the new Bolsheviks? Big business is the new persecuted minority, and it is what built this country.
2. Outsourcing is bad.
This defies all economics. Why would you pay $2 as much for an american version of a product that China can make for $1? By saving that $1, you can use it on more goods, american or otherwise. If there are no american goods to buy, then we are screwed and/or are not producing to our strengths. Globalisation is here, its not going away, and those who refuse to engage it will become a third world country.
3. Clinton was good for the economy.
It wasn't that he helped the economy, he just was not able to get in the way. Is it a coincidence that a republican controlled congress, who have far more power than the president, were in power at that time? What exactly did Clinton do to boom the economy? Nothing! That's my kind of president! Do you blame him when the market crashed when he was still in office? Do you blame him when the feds started raising the interest rates when he was in power? Clinton was a decent president, but he had an easy 8 years. And I don't blame him for "passing on Bin Laden." Noone understood the threat back then...O.J. was probably a bigger threat in most peoples' minds.
4. Bush is tough on defense.
Only in rhetoric. He was against the HSD when Lieberman proposed it. He has been a disgrace as a leader in Iraq. "It's hard work" does not cut it. The press makes a big deal about their differences on stances with North Korea, but they are the same. Bush says multilateral negotiations, which have to occur. Kerry says bilateral, which will occur before multilateral. They both have the same plan for Iraq (more of the same), but Kerry thinks he'll get more countries on board. He won't, and he runs the risk of losing the ones that are there (look at how Poland responded to his insults to their part of the coalition).

It probably looks like I think Bush is better, and I think this is the case. This is only because I think the democrats picked a real loser in Kerry. Lieberman was, is, and probably will be the best guy in Washington for quite awhile. I would prefer Sharpton to Kerry (Sharpton has some of the most incredibly intelligent statements in his insane ramblings and when he isn't inciting riots). I want Bush out, I don't want Kerry in. The choice of Bush or Kerry is like a choice between a kick to the groin or a slap to the face. On voting day, I'll say "surprise me." Just let the master of all humanity, The great one, our new lord, Dich Cheney run the show. He is God.

[angelxterminator]

i dont understand why any of you would support bush! "weapons of mass destruction" is why we went to the war, "supposedly".... iraqui oil would pay for the war "wrong"... we went there over political b*ll****, and now we are stuck there to democratize. Bush took the surplus clinton gave us and destroyed it 5 fold! We are now trillions in debt, and even our kids will be paying for that!

And on top of all that he's giving the tax breaks to company's who then OUTSOURCE THEIR JOBS ANYWAY!

(i like the republican *ssholes daughter though )

[carbs-rule]

i dont understand why any of you would support bush! "weapons of mass destruction" is why we went to the war, "supposedly".... iraqui oil would pay for the war "wrong"... we went there over political b*ll****, and now we are stuck there to democratize. Bush took the surplus clinton gave us and destroyed it 5 fold! We are now trillions in debt, and even our kids will be paying for that!

And on top of all that he's giving the tax breaks to company's who then OUTSOURCE THEIR JOBS ANYWAY!

(i like the republican *ssholes daughter though )

Hod did Clinton give us a surplus? The money that built that surplus came from taxpayers. A surplus means overtaxation. The money just doesn't appear out of nowhere. Don't vote for Kerry if you think Bush lied on wmd's, Kerry has been saying it for years. I heard our kids will be paying for our dbebt in 1986, and then all of a sudden there was a surplus. Think about what a democratic Iraq would mean to the Middle East. Who are the biggest two losers if that happened?

[Aboot]

Hod did Clinton give us a surplus? The money that built that surplus came from taxpayers. A surplus means overtaxation. The money just doesn't appear out of nowhere. Don't vote for Kerry if you think Bush lied on wmd's, Kerry has been saying it for years. I heard our kids will be paying for our dbebt in 1986, and then all of a sudden there was a surplus. Think about what a democratic Iraq would mean to the Middle East. Who are the biggest two losers if that happened?

A deficit is different than debt.

[DADDYDBOL]

you got any pics?

[itsallmental]

jeezus, i read the first sentence of these 10 page posts on bush and kerry and lose my breath just looking at the rest of it.

[carbs-rule]

Also, explain why outsourcing is bad? Look at the jobs ratio created/lost from outsourcing. There was a decent article in Foreign Affairs a few months ago about the Outsourcing Boogeyman. Read it. Stop being a democratic lackey.

[clockworks]

Also, explain why outsourcing is bad?

America's power to win wars has traditionally been rooted in its manufacturing power. Nothing these days is manufactured in America anymore.

Now about Bush...

What the hell has the war done for me (or America)?
Have gas prices gone down? No.
Has terrorism gone up? Yes.
Has Bin Laden been captured? No.
Is Iraq in a greater state of chaos since it has been liberated? Yes.
Were their weapons of mass destruction? No.
Has the world's view of America become more negative? Yes.

Iraq is such a clusterf-ck, it needed a madman to keep the people in line over there. Well, thats one crazy view anyways...=)

Honestly, I'm not voting for Bush because he's against stem cell research. I mean, seriously...stem cell research could usher in a new era of medicine. Just think of all the once uncurable diseases and handicaps that could potentially be cured by stem cell research. Think of all the jobs and the massive economy boom...it will be like the .com era, but this time having to do with biotechnology. Bush is an idiot for not supporting that.

[SwoleCat]

America's power to win wars has traditionally been rooted in its manufacturing power. Nothing these days is manufactured in America anymore.

Now about Bush...

What the hell has the war done for me (or America)?
Have gas prices gone down? No.
Has terrorism gone up? Yes.
Has Bin Laden been captured? No.
Is Iraq in a greater state of chaos since it has been liberated? Yes.
Were their weapons of mass destruction? No.
Has the world's view of America become more negative? Yes.

Iraq is such a clusterf-ck, it needed a madman to keep the people in line over there. Well, thats one crazy view anyways...=)

Honestly, I'm not voting for Bush because he's against stem cell research. I mean, seriously...stem cell research could usher in a new era of medicine. Just think of all the once uncurable diseases and handicaps that could potentially be cured by stem cell research. Think of all the jobs and the massive economy boom...it will be like the .com era, but this time having to do with biotechnology. Bush is an idiot for not supporting that.

Your entire post was an enjoyment to read!



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[Phillyboy1]

Your entire post was an enjoyment to read!



~SC~

agreed

[clockworks]

Your entire post was an enjoyment to read!

agreed

Thanks. I'm glad there are other liberal thinkers on the board (I'm actually a moderate leaning towards the liberal side). I always thought AR was overwhelmingly very conservative.

It may sound cold, but embryos are a renewable resource. I know a girl who works at a large fertility clinic, and they make hundreds, and dispose of hundreds every day. They only put the most viable and healthy ones back in the mother's womb, so all of the other ones get put down the garbage disposal. And you NEVER hear the high and mighty self-rightous christians going off about that. She said she has never even heard of someone protesting a fertility clinic. And they destroy more embryos than most abortion clinics do.

That's really interesting.

[chicamahomico]

I wouldn't worry too much about that. America still has the highest manufacturing capacity and high worker productivity. Just because you guys import textiles, cd players, and cheap shoes doesn't mean these countries can build prime military weapons. All the major players in the defence industry are based in real countries.

America's power to win wars has traditionally been rooted in its manufacturing power. Nothing these days is manufactured in America anymore.

I agree with what you're saying here and on the stem cell thing. I would like to add a couple of questions. Maybe some people can answer them.
1.)
Why does the average American think tax cuts, despite deficit spending, actually puts money in their pocket?
2.)
American taxpayer is going to begin paying for Iraq in the not so distant future (and will probably pay for a long, long time). Does Joe Taxpayer feel he's getting his money worth?

What the hell has the war done for me (or America)?
Have gas prices gone down? No.
Has terrorism gone up? Yes.
Has Bin Laden been captured? No.
Is Iraq in a greater state of chaos since it has been liberated? Yes.
Were their weapons of mass destruction? No.
Has the world's view of America become more negative? Yes.

[DADDYDBOL]

[DADDYDBOL]

oh i almost forgot

[floyd_turbo]

cant stop, wont stop?

[Raven8264]

It's why I try not to get involved in these threads. Some don't know how to contain their emotions and stick to the facts without becoming insulting, and end up looking likes asses themselves as a result (not directed at anyone in particular). The internet is NOT the best place to go for meaningful political discourse.

[AandF6969]

I dont see how the hell anyone can vote for Bush after he went into the war, wasted a $hitload of money, got a bunch of Americans killed, and came out with no WMD...

And I havent paid attention to their policies so I dont know if I'd vote for kerry or not.

[itsallmental]

i dont understand why everyone argues on bush vs kerry.jeezus, vote, then let the polls tell whos really telling the troth.

[symatech]

and whats with all this

If youre hard-working and successful, then why the hell would you want to vote for John Kerry? Do you enjoy giving your money to the government

do you people see any further than your wallet???? Perhaps if you had family in Iraq you might want a president who wouldn't go to war with no exit strategy...

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