Look, I'm not a bodybuilder, don't plan on ever bodybuilding. But I'll tell you this--I want to look like a chisled mofo, very well-defined. From there, I'll determine if I want to maintain that look or bulk up a little. For you, it probaby sucks doing what you term as "cultish" or "extreme". For many of us, we have developed a LIFESTYLE--a way of living. Not some fad "low carb" or "atkins" diet or some other named diet whatever. And guess what? We love it. It's not even something we think twice about. It's just a way of life and we enjoy it. Hell, I do. And then each Saturday I get to cheat for a meal--what an awesome reward

. Oh well. Let me stop. You do what you do. I'll do what I do. Ya'll do what ya'll do.
But still, Swolecat's advice is the **** and I'll forever value it

--cuz the results are strikingly showing
Peace.