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    Quote Originally Posted by SVC
    You've got some roid rage going man. I hope the name you chose doesn't reflect your AS of choice. Taking toxic orals like Dianabol, Anadrol, Halotestin are like swallowing Draino! Injectables are filtered by your liver over a 12 day peroid. Orals are filtered by your liver immediately and you only utilize a percentage of what you take. TOXIC ORALS SUCK!

    I'm not sure how my neck raises jumped to 400lbs. I said I lifted 200lbs with my neck. Stop padding my stats

    If I'm an idiot because I over trained and injured myself 20 years ago? Does this mean Dorian Yates is a fool because he tore his biceps tendon anf then his triceps? I was driven to become a pro bodybuilder and I drove myself into the ground! Sometimes you can't see the forest for the trees...


    if i have roid rage you have a bad case of 'bending the truth to fit your agenda'......

    bro....you are an idiot....sorry but you did it to yourself.....now take your medicine......

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    Don't you mean "were" an idiot BIG DADDY DBOL. You seem to forget it was 20 years ago. I'm not saying everyone who takes juice will get screwed up like me... I'm showing you what "can" happen. I had a few different training partners back then, many have problems now. 1 has MS, 1 has Muscular Dystrophy.

    By all means do what you'd like. My goal is to try to educate kids under 23 of the "possible" danger of AS. I guess in your eyes that's wrong...


    Quote Originally Posted by DADDYDBOL
    if i have roid rage you have a bad case of 'bending the truth to fit your agenda'......

    bro....you are an idiot....sorry but you did it to yourself.....now take your medicine......

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    Quote Originally Posted by SVC
    Don't you mean "were" an idiot BIG DADDY DBOL. You seem to forget it was 20 years ago. I'm not saying everyone who takes juice will get screwed up like me... I'm showing you what "can" happen. I had a few different training partners back then, many have problems now. 1 has MS, 1 has Muscular Dystrophy.

    By all means do what you'd like. My goal is to try to educate kids under 23 of the "possible" danger of AS. I guess in your eyes that's wrong...


    ok heres the deal dude.....watch your little clip and keep spreading your lies....but you're not talking to a bunch of newbies.....you trained like a fool and abused steriods....thats what screwed you up.....all we ask is you let people know that thats what happened to you....you did not do a cycle or 2 and get screwed for life....you did it to yourself....get it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SVC
    You've got some roid rage going man. I hope the name you chose doesn't reflect your AS of choice. Taking toxic orals like Dianabol, Anadrol, Halotestin are like swallowing Draino! Injectables are filtered by your liver over a 12 day peroid. Orals are filtered by your liver immediately and you only utilize a percentage of what you take. TOXIC ORALS SUCK!

    I'm not sure how my neck raises jumped to 400lbs. I said I lifted 200lbs with my neck. Stop padding my stats

    If I'm an idiot because I over trained and injured myself 20 years ago? Does this mean Dorian Yates is a fool because he tore his biceps tendon anf then his triceps? I was driven to become a pro bodybuilder and I drove myself into the ground! Sometimes you can't see the forest for the trees...

    oh and one more thing BRO....mr. vet, our fooking savior.....theres no such thing as roid rage.....i thought you would know that.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by DADDYDBOL
    oh and one more thing BRO....mr. vet, our fooking savior.....theres no such thing as roid rage.....i thought you would know that.....
    Oh really? It must have been in my head. Doesn't testosterone make humans agressive? Isn't that why males are more agressive than females? You better learn how to read and do some more studying youngster
    What exactly have you ever accomplished? What makes you such a plethora of knowledge? Please email me a photo so I can see how great you look. I'm about 80% titanium now, I barely lift and I probably look better than you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SVC
    Oh really? It must have been in my head. Doesn't testosterone make humans agressive? Isn't that why males are more agressive than females? You better learn how to read and do some more studying youngster
    What exactly have you ever accomplished? What makes you such a plethora of knowledge? Please email me a photo so I can see how great you look. I'm about 80% titanium now, I barely lift and I probably look better than you...


    whatever bro.....your video showed us what a fool you are....and if someone goes off and blames it on gear they most likely had mental issues to begin with.....sh*t when i'm 'on' i'm as happy as i could be.....gramps

    go oil yourself and spread some more lies.....i'm done with you

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    Feel free to vent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Money Boss Hustla
    Feel free to vent.

    [email protected]

    I sent him an email with a link to this thread. Give him a chance to respond to some of these comments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LORDBLiTZ
    I sent him an email with a link to this thread. Give him a chance to respond to some of these comments.


    already been done, member name is SVC!

    i think you guys are bein to hard on this cat. he did not ask no one to put the link up here!

    some of you are bashin him for tryin to get paid! lmfao at that. get paid anyway you can SVC!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kato
    already been done, member name is SVC!

    i think you guys are bein to hard on this cat. he did not ask no one to put the link up here!

    some of you are bashin him for tryin to get paid! lmfao at that. get paid anyway you can SVC!

    DOH! Too slow today

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    The moral of the story, dont roid if you have an extremely addictive personality!!!!

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    he emailed me back....with what he responded with in this thread....

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    DaddyDBOL - you look like an idiot when you just insult the guy and don't come up with actual argument point

    this guy hasn't insulted you in anyway, so atleast be respectful if you don't agree with him

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    Quote Originally Posted by GQ-Bouncer
    DaddyDBOL - you look like an idiot when you just insult the guy and don't come up with actual argument point

    this guy hasn't insulted you in anyway, so atleast be respectful if you don't agree with him


    excuse me?? no point?? can you read?? my point is he is lieing to sell his supplements.....how is that not a point.....read mbh thread where he blows hole through EVERYONE of this losers points....hang on...i'll go find it..


    btw who are you?

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    a classic case of "over doing it".some good stuff though.

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    just read MBH's posts....then tell me i have no point....


    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=138830

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    Quote Originally Posted by DADDYDBOL
    just read MBH's posts....then tell me i have no point....


    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=138830
    you have no point


    Listen, in an argument, you make points and counterpoints in order to win. Everytime you just go and disrespect this guy needlessly it makes you look like a loser.

    so stop being a loser

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    Quote Originally Posted by GQ-Bouncer
    you have no point


    Listen, in an argument, you make points and counterpoints in order to win. Everytime you just go and disrespect this guy needlessly it makes you look like a loser.

    so stop being a loser
    Don't turn this into a flame war.
    Last edited by aXe; 12-18-2004 at 02:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GQ-Bouncer
    you have no point


    Listen, in an argument, you make points and counterpoints in order to win. Everytime you just go and disrespect this guy needlessly it makes you look like a loser.

    so stop being a loser


    you make no sense......there is no winning....we busted this guy lieing about how steroids ruined his life.......he was doing it so he could tell kids 'steroids will do this to you so instead buy my products because they are just as good'....i mean have you read these threads? and what does it make you look like calling me a loser? exactly

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    Quote Originally Posted by GQ-Bouncer
    you have no point


    Listen, in an argument, you make points and counterpoints in order to win. Everytime you just go and disrespect this guy needlessly it makes you look like a loser.

    so stop being a loser
    well said

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    Correct GQ. I'm not sure why Big Daddy Dbol is taking my opinions so personally. What products and services am I pushing? Go to SteroidsViciousCycles.com I don't see any reference to me or my companies.



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    Quote Originally Posted by SVC
    Correct GQ. I'm not sure why Big Daddy Dbol is taking my opinions so personally. What products and services am I pushing? Go to SteroidsViciousCycles.com I don't see any reference to me or my companies.



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    not taking anything personally.....actually i'm suprised i have been so serious about this....i guess i just hate liars

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    Quote Originally Posted by DADDYDBOL
    not taking anything personally.....actually i'm suprised i have been so serious about this....i guess i just hate liars

    What exactly am I lying about?

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    SVC, I think the point is to learn from experiences such as yours, and try not to make the same mistakes. I understand that you guys didn't have the knowledge back then, but we do now. THe health issues you went through (and are going thru) no doubt suck, but the only good thing to come out of them is the knowledge of the harms of excessive steroid use.

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    Complete BS SVC. I just picked apart your post. If you are really Todd...then please let's continue the conversation.

    There is a total hidden agenda. Bad mouthing AS so you can make money on your own products and services. Traitor. Total sell out.

    Get off your soapbox…you hurt yourself. Steroids did not hurt you. Your lack of understanding and stupidity (200lb neck raises) are the culprits. You abused your body…not AS!! If AS are so bad why is there HRT? Huh? Doctors prescribe it!! People take test shot every week. You have named but a few people who have used AS…what about the rest of the population of users? Results and sides are individual. Your experiences do not represent the AS world.

    Case closed for another greedy entrepreneur. Go market somewhere else.

    priceless

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    To be honest Todd...I am upset. I'm sick of people bad mouthing AS for their own personal gain. AS is not bad...people abusing them are. Guns don't kill...jack*sses using them do. Place the blame deservingly.

    Priceless!? You are exploiting the people in this fear mongering society we live in. Do you not stand to profit from this? Absolutely you do! You "scare" people from using AS onto legal supplements ie) your products. "Listen up people and I will tell you the horror stories of AS." Why not just take a positive approach and say "Hey folks look what I can do naturally!" You are using a negative approach. You are being a spin doctor. Fortunately knowledgeable people see through your agenda and call bullsh*t.

    Educate!? Bullsh*t! Your sermons are nothing but biased rhetoric. Did AS hurt your neck? No. I'm sorry that it happened (truly I am)...but you're at fault. Stop placing the blame on AS...point the finger at your own mistakes. Admit it. You messed up. You screwed yourself and now you have a chip on your shoulder. AS didn't make you do 200lb neck raises. What was with that!? However, in typical fashion today you seek escapism and place the blame away from yourself. Why is it so hard to say to yourself...I did this...not AS. You're not the victim of AS Todd...you're the victim of poor technique, knowledge, and judgment.

    You're not a savior offering salvation...you're pitching your own hidden agenda. The facade has been lifted Todd. You hurt yourself...not AS.

    Case closed.

    i love it

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    Didn't you cut & paste that from Money Boss Hustla? From a few days ago. He wrote that not you.

    Why aren't you answering any of my questions?
    1) Where are the supplements I'm pushing on SteroidsViciousCycles.com ?
    2) Where is my name on the site?
    3) Why are you taking it so personally?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SVC
    Didn't you cut & paste that from Money Boss Hustla? From a few days ago. He wrote that not you.

    Why aren't you answering any of my questions?
    1) Where are the supplements I'm pushing on SteroidsViciousCycles.com ?
    2) Where is my name on the site?
    3) Why are you taking it so personally?

    LOL! Your names on the first page bro!

    "Original Site Music COPYRIGHT 2004 T Ganci Music ASCAP"


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    I'm not selling my original music.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MESSY_UK
    LOL! Your names on the first page bro!

    "Original Site Music COPYRIGHT 2004 T Ganci Music ASCAP"



    lmao.....

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    I had to put "Original Site Music COPYRIGHT 2004 T Ganci Music ASCAP" to protect the music from COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT. If someone on this board didn't post the fact that it was me in the video "Original Site Music COPYRIGHT 2004 T Ganci Music ASCAP" would have no reference to anyone.

    If I set up SteroidsViciousCycles.com to push supplements and services wouldn't I advertise or link them to the site?

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    [QUOTE=SVC]Didn't you cut & paste that from Money Boss Hustla? From a few days ago. He wrote that not you.
    [QUOTE]



    thats why they are in quotes....and i'm done with you.....see MBH's thread for your answers.....i don't have time to cut and paste but we all saw it

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    I wonder if some like DaddyDbol thinks Dorian was an idiot for tearing his biceps than his triceps?

    What about these guys? Were they all idiots who deserve what they got?

    Ed Corney (stroke)
    Sonny Schmidt died at 46
    Ron Teufel died at 45
    Mike Mentzer died at 49
    Ray Mentzer died at 47
    Don Ross died at 55
    Dennis Newman (leukemia)
    Orville Burke (coma)
    Don Long (kidney failure)
    Flex Wheeler (kidney transplant)
    Boyer Coe (heart)
    Danny Padilla (heart)
    Pete Grymkowski (heart)

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    Quote Originally Posted by SVC
    I wonder if some like DaddyDbol thinks Dorian was an idiot for tearing his biceps than his triceps?

    What about these guys? Were they all idiots who deserve what they got?

    Ed Corney (stroke)
    Sonny Schmidt died at 46
    Ron Teufel died at 45
    Mike Mentzer died at 49
    Ray Mentzer died at 47
    Don Ross died at 55
    Dennis Newman (leukemia)
    Orville Burke (coma)
    Don Long (kidney failure)
    Flex Wheeler (kidney transplant)
    Boyer Coe (heart)
    Danny Padilla (heart)
    Pete Grymkowski (heart)
    it is certainly scary.

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    Hey Todd. I'm not attacking you here...but what value are you adding to AR at this moment!? I'm very curious. We've squared off and it's done. You've rebutted here and it's now done.

    We're pro AS here and you're not. So why stay around and continue the battles.

    You're either in...or in the way.
    Just my .02

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    Quote Originally Posted by Money Boss Hustla
    Hey Todd. I'm not attacking you here...but what value are you adding to AR at this moment!? I'm very curious. We've squared off and it's done. You've rebutted here and it's now done.

    We're pro AS here and you're not. So why stay around and continue the battles.

    You're either in...or in the way.
    Just my .02
    are you speaking for everybody?i'm not pro as but i do like the stuff on here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by radar1234
    are you speaking for everybody?i'm not pro as but i do like the stuff on here.
    True enough. How about most people?

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    The thread below should be merged into here.

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=138830

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    I think the guy is legit, the point every one is missing is that he is a business man, and hey, he may over exagerate a little, who knows, but he does have some valid points If you like it or not.

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