Are you going to hell?

[KGBnine]

could not help my self

myself (one word)<---payback.

[wildcatslady]

myself (one word)<---payback.

LOL good one

[wildcatslady]

God's not burning ppl in hell...we have free will God loves us all but if we dont want him dont want to be in Heaven with him its our choice..he is not picking and choosing who goes and who stays we choose to go or not...he wrote out the directions now we just have to follow them. and yes I believe that Jesus is the lord and savior and all that I wrote in my first post about how you get to heaven but I also think he is the one who created everything and he knows we are all different and what works for one might not work for another so I think he deals with us each differently, I think we all get the chance at one point or another to get into heaven.

[bignatt]

If god forgives how can you go to hell? (unless you dont beleive , or rape children, or murder)

[wildcatslady]

If god forgives how can you go to hell? (unless you dont beleive , or rape children, or murder)

that is the only way that I know of that you can go to hell is that if you do not believe...I believe that god forgives all sins all people, even murders and the like...but I like to think the rapist and murders go to hell and sufer for the rest of forever.

[bignatt]

theres no way they go to heaven they must go to a purgatory or something or someone like hitler they must come back as a midget lol it would suck being 3ft tall with a 30lb head

[KGBnine]

theres no way they go to heaven they must go to a purgatory or something or someone like hitler they must come back as a midget lol it would suck being 3ft tall with a 30lb head

who says hitler is coming back?

[ALEXANDER42]

Wait a minute I am confused. I'm married,barely get sex and stuck in New Jersey because of my job. Aren't I in Hell already?

[KGBnine]

Wait a minute I am confused. I'm married,barely get sex and stuck in New Jersey because of my job. Aren't I in Hell already?

[TheBrent]

hmm, i'll say heaven. no one else has.

[*Narkissos*]

hmm, i'll say heaven. no one else has.

Me2
i'm working on it

[bignatt]

haha i mean horrible people like that must get sent back as midgets lol

[KGBnine]

haha i mean horrible people like that must get sent back as midgets lol

oh gotcha

[wildcatslady]

HA HA remember in Little Nicky, when Hitler was dressed as a maid and satan was shoving pineapples up his butt, thats what happens to bad people.

[KGBnine]

HA HA remember in Little Nicky, when Hitler was dressed as a maid and satan was shoving pineapples up his butt, thats what happens to bad people.

oh yeah...he tried to pick a small pineapple, then satan grabbed a bigger one. lol

[bignatt]

See i always thought that jesus was gods son isnt that how it was?

[KGBnine]

See i always thought that jesus was gods son isnt that how it was?

that is where many people disagree.

[Bryan2]

I NOTICED WILD CAT AND CYCLEON MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT MY POST EARLIER READ THIS AND IT WILL HELP YOU TO UNDERSTAND MY VEIWPOINTS MUCH MUCH BETTER


Jesus was JEHOVAH GODS first creation and through Jesus all other things were created. JESUS'S name means JEHOVAH IS SALVATION

Would you guys point me to a scripture that states all go to heaven except for the 144,000 that were bought from the earth to rule as advisors to Jesus in NEW JERUSALEM?
a limed number to be kings with Christ RE 5:9, 10; 20:4
Jesus was forerunner; others chosen since COL 1:18: 1PE 2:21
Many others will live on earth PS 72:8; RE 21:3, 4
144,000 in special position no others have RE 14:1, 3; 7:4, 9
OR where it speaks of Hell

Not a literal place of fiery torment
suffered Job prayed to go there JOB 14:13
a place of inactivity PS 6:5; EC 9:10; ISA 38:18, 19
Jesus was raised from grave, hell AC 2:27, 31, 32; PS 16:10
Hell will deliver up other dead, be destroyed RE 20;13, 14


Fire is aymbol of annihilation
cutting of in death symbolized by fire MT 5:41, 46; 13:30
unrepentant wicked desroyed forever as by fire HEB 10:26, 27
Satans fiery torment is everlasting death RE 20:10, 14, 15


Rich man and Lazarus account no proof of eternal torment
Fire no more literal than abrahams bosom LU 16:22-24
Abrahams favor also contrasted with darkness MT 8:11, 12
Babylons annihilation called a fiery torment RE 18:8-10, 21


As for my non belief in the Trinty well

God, the Father, one person, greatest in universe
God is not three persons DE 6:4; Mal 2:10; MR 10:18; RO 3:29, 30
Son created; God alone before RE 3:14; Col 1:15; ISA 44:6
God ruler of universe at all times PHP 2:5, 6; DA :35
God to be exhalted above all PHP 2:10, 11

Son inferior to Father before and after coming to earth
son obedient in heaven, sent by Father JOH 8:42; 12:49
Obeidient on Earth, Father greater JOH 14:28; 5:19; HEB 5:8
exhalted in Heaven, still subject PHP 2:9; 1CO 15:28;MT 20:23
JEHOVAH is Christs's head and GOD 1CO 11:3; JOH 20:17; RE 1:6

Oneness of god and Christ
Always in complete harmony JOH 8:28,29; 14:10
Onenes, like that of husband and wife JOH 10:30;MT 19:4-6
All believers must have same oneness JOH 17:20-22; 1CO 1:10
One worship of Jehovah through Chris forever JOH 4:23, 24


God's holy Spirit is his active force
A force not a person MT 3:16; JOH 20:22; AC 2:4, 17, 23
Not a person in heaven with God and Christ AC 7:55, 56; RE 7:10
Directed by GOD to accomplish purposes PS 104:30; 1CO 12:4-11
Those serving God recieve, Guided by it 1CO 2:12, 13; GA 5:16




Now these are all scriptures to show my view points made I know it is a lot to read but its all there so if anyone has any questions pick up a Bible and check for yourself.

[KGBnine]

I NOTICED WILD CAT AND CYCLEON MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT MY POST EARLIER READ THIS AND IT WILL HELP YOU TO UNDERSTAND MY VEIWPOINTS MUCH MUCH BETTER


Jesus was JEHOVAH GODS first creation and through Jesus all other things were created. JESUS'S name means JEHOVAH IS SALVATION

Would you guys point me to a scripture that states all go to heaven except for the 144,000 that were bought from the earth to rule as advisors to Jesus in NEW JERUSALEM?
a limed number to be kings with Christ RE 5:9, 10; 20:4
Jesus was forerunner; others chosen since COL 1:18: 1PE 2:21
Many others will live on earth PS 72:8; RE 21:3, 4
144,000 in special position no others have RE 14:1, 3; 7:4, 9
OR where it speaks of Hell

Not a literal place of fiery torment
suffered Job prayed to go there JOB 14:13
a place of inactivity PS 6:5; EC 9:10; ISA 38:18, 19
Jesus was raised from grave, hell AC 2:27, 31, 32; PS 16:10
Hell will deliver up other dead, be destroyed RE 20;13, 14


Fire is aymbol of annihilation
cutting of in death symbolized by fire MT 5:41, 46; 13:30
unrepentant wicked desroyed forever as by fire HEB 10:26, 27
Satans fiery torment is everlasting death RE 20:10, 14, 15


Rich man and Lazarus account no proof of eternal torment
Fire no more literal than abrahams bosom LU 16:22-24
Abrahams favor also contrasted with darkness MT 8:11, 12
Babylons annihilation called a fiery torment RE 18:8-10, 21


As for my non belief in the Trinty well

God, the Father, one person, greatest in universe
God is not three persons DE 6:4; Mal 2:10; MR 10:18; RO 3:29, 30
Son created; God alone before RE 3:14; Col 1:15; ISA 44:6
God ruler of universe at all times PHP 2:5, 6; DA :35
God to be exhalted above all PHP 2:10, 11

Son inferior to Father before and after coming to earth
son obedient in heaven, sent by Father JOH 8:42; 12:49
Obeidient on Earth, Father greater JOH 14:28; 5:19; HEB 5:8
exhalted in Heaven, still subject PHP 2:9; 1CO 15:28;MT 20:23
JEHOVAH is Christs's head and GOD 1CO 11:3; JOH 20:17; RE 1:6

Oneness of god and Christ
Always in complete harmony JOH 8:28,29; 14:10
Onenes, like that of husband and wife JOH 10:30;MT 19:4-6
All believers must have same oneness JOH 17:20-22; 1CO 1:10
One worship of Jehovah through Chris forever JOH 4:23, 24


God's holy Spirit is his active force
A force not a person MT 3:16; JOH 20:22; AC 2:4, 17, 23
Not a person in heaven with God and Christ AC 7:55, 56; RE 7:10
Directed by GOD to accomplish purposes PS 104:30; 1CO 12:4-11
Those serving God recieve, Guided by it 1CO 2:12, 13; GA 5:16




Now these are all scriptures to show my view points made I know it is a lot to read but its all there so if anyone has any questions pick up a Bible and check for yourself.

THIS is perfectly stated.

[ArkansasAlex]

I think if you ask for forgiveness, and cenceraly (spellcheck) mean it. and try to change the way you live your life to a manner that would praise god more. He would forgive you for ANYTHING. but thats just me

Peace
Alex

[ace ventura]

I do believe in heaven.

I don't go to church or anything. But I do believe.

My dad had many "experiences" with God and stuff like that.. i.ex he was a narc and his body was completely broken many years ago.. he was dying, the doctors said nothing could be done. But then he got christian and was healed (?) over night. Totally change him. Many people started to believe because of what happened to him. His mother, sister, wife, friends etc.

God often gave answears when my father prayed. Seriously! If it wasn't for him I doubt I would believe in such things. I don't think I would be the "type". I have no reasons not to believe.

You can say whatever you want. I know what I know and the world is not exactly what it seems seems from our humans point of view. At least stay open minded. One day in your life God may call on you.

[Pale Horse]

The thing is someone who knows the faith knows the answer. Do I qualify for heavan? Absolutley not! Will I make it? God is the final Judge. I do believe in Jesus as The Christ? Yes I Do!

If I can when I'm dead I'll post the answer!

[ace ventura]

I don't think no one qualify for heaven. The key is God's mercy and Jesus ...

I don't qualify for heaven either but I know that I would get there if I died now. I thinks God wants to take everyone "home" to heaven, all we have to do is to give him the "right" to do so, if you know what I mean..

I have talked to people that didn't believe. Not untill they felt God "toutching" them on the inside and met him in person kind of. They couldn't help crying and feeling so week when they truely felt the spirit of God. Pretty weird things...I don't think muscles make you feal that powerfull infront of the person that designed you and your hormones (or something).. hehe..

[KGBnine]

I don't think no one qualify for heaven. The key is God's mercy and Jesus ...

I don't qualify for heaven either but I know that I would get there if I died now. I thinks God wants to take everyone "home" to heaven, all we have to do is to give him the "right" to do so, if you know what I mean..

I have talked to people that didn't believe. Not untill they felt God "toutching" them on the inside and met him in person kind of. They couldn't help crying and feeling so week when they truely felt the spirit of God. Pretty weird things...I don't think muscles make you feal that powerfull infront of the person that designed you and your hormones (or something).. hehe..

I'm just wondering where in the bible it says anyone(besides a certain number 144,000) has the chance to go to heaven? Nowhere.

[Cycleon]

I'm just wondering where in the bible it says anyone(besides a certain number 144,000) has the chance to go to heaven? Nowhere.

Romans 10:
8But what does it say? “The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart,”[a] that is, the word of faith we are proclaiming: 9That if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved. 11As the Scripture says, “Anyone who trusts in him will never be put to shame.” 12For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile–the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, 13for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”[c]

Axe - ya need to do a little more study There are many passages like this - it is very definitive - and the revelation 144K is for a certain period - not for all time

[Bryan2]

Romans 10:
8But what does it say? “The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart,”[a] that is, the word of faith we are proclaiming: 9That if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved. 11As the Scripture says, “Anyone who trusts in him will never be put to shame.” 12For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile–the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, 13for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”[c]

Axe - ya need to do a little more study There are many passages like this - it is very definitive - and the revelation 144K is for a certain period - not for all time

Yes it does state that EVERYONE will be saved but this is subjective(at least in my eyes) everyone saved (but what does this mean?)

I do agree that more than belief in Jesus is required
your belief must be accompanied by works
Not all using mane of Lord will enter kingdom MT 7:21-23

From MY(usually most have different views) understanding
everyone will be saved by everlasting life. Not sure if your views differ but probably will in next couple statments

God cannot lie has promised everlasting life TIT 1:2; JOH 10:27, 28
Eternal life assured those exercising faith. JOH 11:25, 26
Death will be destoyed 1CO 15:26; RE 21:4; 20:14; ISA 25:8

Heavenly life is limited to those in Christs body.
God selects members as it pleases him. MT 20:23; 1CO 12:18
Only 144,000 taken from earth RE 14:1, 4; 7:2-4; 5:9; 10
Not even John the Baptizer to be in heavenly Kingdom MT 11:11


Earthly life promised to unlimited number
Limited number with jesus in heavens RE 14:1, 4; 7:2-4
"Other sheep" not Christ's brothers JOH 10:16; MT 25:32, 40
Many now gathering for earthly survival RE 7:9, 15-17
Others raised for life on earth RE 20:12; 21:4



My basic belief is that everyone who shows works and declares Jesus Christ as the Son of god and recognize what he has done for us WILL be saved.
But My belief is that they will NOT be resserected in Heaven but on Earth with eternal life and will be restored to perfection during Jesus 1000 year rule over Paradise Earth.

I can see by your other posts that you know quite a lot about the Bible Cycleon and just out of curiousity would like to see where your view points differ from mine?

[KGBnine]

Axe - ya need to do a little more study There are many passages like this - it is very definitive - and the revelation 144K is for a certain period - not for all time

.... I'm always down for more studying. I don't think I can explain it better than bryan did, so At this point I'll leave it at what he says. But I too am interested in your beliefs Cyc.

[Chemical King]

I wonder if you can get roids in hell and like a gym and sh1t

[chicamahomico]

I'm worried if I wind up there I won't know anyone.

[9000rpm]

There's no such thing as hell, just as there is no such thing as heaven. The sooner people can realize this, the sooner and faster human kind and technology can advance.

The bible is simply a fable that has a good moralistic guide to live your life by. If religion is what keeps you straight, then great. But I don't need the fear of god to keep me straight.

I just always thought it was very selfish that so many people are "good" for their own ticket into their fabled "heaven". Why no be good, for the good of your future generations, and for the good of the rest of humankind?

And there is are other religions that scare me more than christianity, catholicism, and islam, and in that order. All of them are full of fanatics that think the world is coming to an end.

[max2extreme]

Bryan2, Ill comment on your posts when I get home from work and have my bible...

Later all,

Max

[Bryan2]

Bryan2, Ill comment on your posts when I get home from work and have my bible...

Later all,

Max

NO COMMENTS?

[Pale Horse]

9000,

Fear of God doesn't keep me in a straight line, the love of God does. The intellectual approach is to out think the creator which is an impossibilty IMO.

[Juggernaut]

Now to answer your question:

I'd say I hope to get into heaven.....my actions will not warrant this but my belief that Jesus was his son and the fact I do believe in God is suppose to help with this matter. I can't say for sure until the hour of judgment. Let's just say I hope to hear the words "Good job, well and faithful servant".

Chica......I hope you'll see me when you get there.....if not I expect you to talk to God and work something out for me.

[WS6_KID]

This thread has become quite enlightening

[Juggernaut]

This thread has become quite enlightening

Buda walks into a Burger King and says "Make me one with everything". hahahahaha

He hands the clerk a twenty. The clerk takes it, puts it in the register and hands him his sandwich and says "Have a nice day, come again". Buda says "What about my change?" The clerk says "Ahhh but change comes from within!" hahahahahahaahahahahahaha

[Commando_Barbi]

Going to hell???? Im IN HELL!

[D-END]

I don't believe in that stuff.....but if it exists I'm FVCKED..