I am suprised or am I being misled by you all....

[t-money]

Are you serious??
He was joking!

Sarcasm. I was joking. I'm not a complete idiot. I don't think we have 'ghostwriters' on here, but maybe...and I don't know of anyone who has died as a direct result from AAS.



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[Whitey]

It seems like nobody understands sarcasm anymore. It's a dying art, I suppose.

[Chief]

I died from it.

Thats horrible, I died too.

[Hot-Rox]

Freak - I find it hard to believe that you have actually spent much time researching AR. I you had you would of found honest discussion of both the positive and negative effects of gear use. Even the parent website (of this forum) contains a rather complete list of sides. Also, if you have spent months reading through AR you will have seen the hundreds of threads discussing real world AAS use including dozen of sides. What is your motivation for only wanting to hear the negative impact?? If your intention is to become educated wouldn't you rather hear the complete story?

Hi ,
I have recently joined this forum but have been reading as a guest for many months. My research into AAS is relatively new but one thing has really suprised me on this forum...the level of positiveness sorrounding AAS. There are very few horror stories of use going bad and horrible side effects etc compared to the positive stories.

So here's my request (although you may not want to read or think about this). Post your negative experiences with AAS. Anything from basic side effects (eg acne, roid rage etc) to the more serious (gyno, liver problems, allergic reaction to AAS). What about negative aspects of AAS use on your life; did your family disown you, did your girlfriend leave you, did you lose your job etc??

Remember to tell us what you were on, how long for, and how you resolved the problem (if you managed to) and the final outcome...

Thanks
Freak79

[freak79]

Freak - I find it hard to believe that you have actually spent much time researching AR. I you had you would of found honest discussion of both the positive and negative effects of gear use. Even the parent website (of this forum) contains a rather complete list of sides. Also, if you have spent months reading through AR you will have seen the hundreds of threads discussing real world AAS use including dozen of sides. What is your motivation for only wanting to hear the negative impact?? If your intention is to become educated wouldn't you rather hear the complete story?

Thankyou for stating the obvious. I admitted in my message that my research into AAS is relatively new. Reading about the list of side effects on some article is nothing compared to asking people who actually use AAS. The purpose of this thread was for me to understand how frequently these sides actually do manifest themselves.

I state again my intention is not to only look for the negative side effects for some negative reason (lets hope this is the last time I have to say this!!!) but to find out about real peoples experiences so that I can properly evaluate what I am risking.

The positive effects of AAS are obvious and the negatives are well publicised but how realistic are they and how often do they actually occur when responsible use is practiced? That's what I hope to personally find out as part of my book and article reading research....real life experiences not just a list of sides from Anabolics 2004 or this forums parent company!

PS thanks to everyone who's contributed..please keep it up.. V interesting to read about the guy who got high BP

[RoNNy THe BuLL]

Sure, many of us have issues. But it seems to me like you have the most issues out of all of us. If you're not ready to jump into the AAS game, then don't play. Period.

But to come out on here and claim to be "mislead". Two words, get lost.

[freak79]

Sure, many of us have issues. But it seems to me like you have the most issues out of all of us. If you're not ready to jump into the AAS game, then don't play. Period.

But to come out on here and claim to be "mislead". Two words, get lost.

Right ofcourse, I should disregard the potential side effects and just grab a couple of needles and start injecting should I. You're probablyy one of those people who advocated injecting 1000mg of test a week and to hell with the possible sides.... You may not have stopped to consider your liver, kidneys, heart etc but don't flame me for being careful with what are extremely powerful drugs!!

As for the "misled" ever hear of using a clever title to catch peoples attention....The use of the word "misled" was metaphorical (thats pronounced meta-fo-rical) not literal...duhhh

[ace ventura]

I don't see how people don't uderstand the reason of a thread like this. It's obvious to me that the guy just want to collect info for himself to investigate AAS. You read something here and something there and put it together and use it to be able to make up your mind.

I would also like to hear more about the negative stories if there are any. The positive sides are obvious. I get the impression that most side effects happen to those unedducated people that start juiceing without doing their homework first.

Those who experienced the real negative side effects probably stopped useing steroids and most likely most of them don't spend time here? Just a thought. -Or maybe they get banned and their threads deleted? J/K.

[Fit2bLarge]

I get insomnia on tren.
I fart alot while bulking.
I dont nut very much while on.

[6_pak]

I like to add that besides abusing steriods(too many mgs, very long cycles), what your diet looks like and if you are abusing any other substances(pills,drugs,alcohol) are all factors that lead to greater risk of side effects. I have friends that shoot up mg after mg a week and drink like a fish 3-4 nites out the week, and do other drugs on a daily basis and then complain about liver pains, headaches, fat gain(big f*ckin surprise) and just think to myself " what f*ckin idiots". Also, these idiots think they can go on a mcdonalds diet and get big and ripped, and half way through the cycle they blame the drugs for getting them fat. I just wanna f*ckin scream when i hear complaints like these. I hope that the people on this board use the advice given, do research about these issues, and just be freakin smart about it. Thats how you cut down on the sides. Yes i believe there will be long term effects, but thats what we try to minimize now, by playing it smart. I was on asthma pills for 16 yrs. and had some really f*cked up sh*t happened to my body. OF cource theres really no way you could tell if that was the cause, but i feel that it did contribute.

[BRUISER]

I don't think there is many cases that can be linked directly to steroid use, although many people blame them. JMO

[Whitey]

Also, these idiots think they can go on a mcdonalds diet and get big and ripped, and half way through the cycle they blame the drugs for getting them fat.

D@mn it, that $hit doesn't work?! I guess I have to go find a new bulking diet now.

[freak79]

bump...shameful i know

Come on guys keep it going here....anyone, everyone...

[UK CHRIS]

very shamefull.....but i havent contributed to your thread in a while..a friend of mine who was stupid enough to megadose on test(3000mg/wk) split his shoulder in two pressing way too big dumbells...not really a side effect of the roids but more a side effect of his stupidity!!

[Bouncer1982]

I remember 1 case were a 17 yr old bought juice and injected 750mg Sus250 into his vien in his arm and he went into Cardiac arrest and died.

[Anhydro78]

The Drugs made me jack off so much, now everyone thinks im weird and knows about it. I was just wippin it out in front of anyone. i figured if they didnt want to see it they shouldnt look..

Yes my family and everyone I knew disowned me!!!

[curiousdude]

i think beau sounds like a cop, narc. sorry dude, but that's a pretty generic law enforcment officer (LEO) type response. your problem is/was your associations. yep............ i said it.

[beuleux]

@freak79. this could actually be quite an enlightening thread, say if the posts were to include our training history, our reasons for first taking juice, how many cycles, and as you suggest the side affects and any adverse or positive effects on our lives families jobs etc and even if you were a journo you could hardly quote the anonymous users in here as your reliable source, and who gives a sh1t anyway its not as if any of us will meet, so lets say you kick off the thread with your story.

[freak79]

@freak79. this could actually be quite an enlightening thread, say if the posts were to include our training history, our reasons for first taking juice, how many cycles, and as you suggest the side affects and any adverse or positive effects on our lives families jobs etc and even if you were a journo you could hardly quote the anonymous users in here as your reliable source, and who gives a sh1t anyway its not as if any of us will meet, so lets say you kick off the thread with your story.

Many thanks for your support and the support of others in recent threads. Sure I'll kick things off. I've been training for nearly 2.5 years and train seriously. I have eaten clean and trained like an animal 5 days a week. I have gone from 52kg when I started to 96kg (5 ft 8) and a present bf 15%. I've gradually come to notice that my natural gains have slowed down and I want to get bigger. I don't know why I want to do I just do...ever since I picked up my first dumbell I've been hooked on bodybuilding...I just love the **** steel too much. I really want as close to get to 4 years of solid natural training so I guessed if i start my research now by the time I get there I should be pretty knowleadgable.

Ps thankyou for finally believing me about the journo thing and your right even if i was (which I'm not) I couldn't probably quote anything here anyway!!

Pps Thanks to all who have contributed please carry on adding to the thread!!

[beuleux]

34kilos in two and a half years aint bad at all, if i could do that i wouldnt even need roids, anyway i have limited experience in this field but im happy to share it, i first picked up the weights age 21, and like you i havnt been able to put them down since, i am now 41, at 6' 2" i am no heavyweight in this time my weight has varied between 160 pounds to 210 pounds, i trained quite happily making small gains naturally until i was 40 when i recieved a couple of injuries which prevented me from training for a few months and caused a drastic loss in weight, this was the turning point for me in my younger days i was swayed by the popular media and considered juicers to be cheats and losers, but determined to put weight back on quickly i embarked on a badly researched cycle of deca only for 12 weeks, however this still worked very well i have regained all the weight id lost and i have shape and definition like never before, then i found this forum and i have recieved lots of advice and guidance from total strangers for which i am very grateful, anyway i am very pleased with my roid folley and if id known it was this good i would have juiced years ago, in fact i am panning another cycle of deca & test prop very soon. Ok now for the side effects, first thing was heavy sweats but not a problem, then hedaches for the first 2 weeks not a problem just took paracetamol, then rages but i kinda liked that i kept it under control ok and it helped me train, then there was the boners but the wife liked that so not a problem, i had a few nosebleeds but not a problem, and my knuckles felt kinda tight towards the end but thats normal on deca so i later learned, Ok effects on my life...work was no problem in fact it may have helped as the deca seemed to induce a euphoria especialy the first few days after shooting, home life went a bit tits up when the wife found out she thought i was some big time roid junkie dude gonna die of heart failure and the lying aspect etc so she went ballistic for a couple of weeks but hey since when do they need a reason to go off one one, So...overall verdict 6 months after my first cycle...fvcking great, i cant wait to do it again, i am now a roid head...no going back. excuse me if its an epic but thats my experince i hope you find it entertaining if nothing else.

[freak79]

34kilos in two and a half years aint bad at all, if i could do that i wouldnt even need roids, anyway i have limited experience in this field but im happy to share it, i first picked up the weights age 21, and like you i havnt been able to put them down since, i am now 41, at 6' 2" i am no heavyweight in this time my weight has varied between 160 pounds to 210 pounds, i trained quite happily making small gains naturally until i was 40 when i recieved a couple of injuries which prevented me from training for a few months and caused a drastic loss in weight, this was the turning point for me in my younger days i was swayed by the popular media and considered juicers to be cheats and losers, but determined to put weight back on quickly i embarked on a badly researched cycle of deca only for 12 weeks, however this still worked very well i have regained all the weight id lost and i have shape and definition like never before, then i found this forum and i have recieved lots of advice and guidance from total strangers for which i am very grateful, anyway i am very pleased with my roid folley and if id known it was this good i would have juiced years ago, in fact i am panning another cycle of deca & test prop very soon. Ok now for the side effects, first thing was heavy sweats but not a problem, then hedaches for the first 2 weeks not a problem just took paracetamol, then rages but i kinda liked that i kept it under control ok and it helped me train, then there was the boners but the wife liked that so not a problem, i had a few nosebleeds but not a problem, and my knuckles felt kinda tight towards the end but thats normal on deca so i later learned, Ok effects on my life...work was no problem in fact it may have helped as the deca seemed to induce a euphoria especialy the first few days after shooting, home life went a bit tits up when the wife found out she thought i was some big time roid junkie dude gonna die of heart failure and the lying aspect etc so she went ballistic for a couple of weeks but hey since when do they need a reason to go off one one, So...overall verdict 6 months after my first cycle...fvcking great, i cant wait to do it again, i am now a roid head...no going back. excuse me if its an epic but thats my experince i hope you find it entertaining if nothing else.

Hi,
Thanks for your contribution. Very interesting to read about your knuckles getting tighter on Deca. You see people this is the kind of thing we want!! Keep on adding people!

Ps One small thing, I put on 44kg in 2.5 years not 34kg...a small point I know but hey it's 10kg of muscle you just took off me there..

[seanw]

OK so its my turn. I have been working out consistently since I was eighteen, I turn Fifty in March so I reckon I have moved the weight of several large container ships in my lifetime. I started out at 64KG, roids were not even mentioned in those days, there was no protein powders, all I had was milk and eggs. I put on 10KG over the next couple of years which is where I sat until six months ago. I look great for my age, most people cant believe how old I am when I tell them. Until I joined this board I had no idea how important eating was, and I realised that thats why I had not really grown much over the years, I was never really dedicated in the gym like I am now. At almost fifty I workout harder than I have ever done in my life to the ponit of almost throwing up after every workout. I really wanted to get bigger and I didnt want to slip into old age because of low Test production, so I decided to do a cycle of Test and Deca. That was the best decision I ever made in my life, I felt great, I got bigger, I put on about 5KG and I now stand at about 80KG at 5'8" tall. Side effects for me were virtually non existant, the only thing I noticed was the blood pressure. My resting BP when I started was very low at 113/60. When I was thre quarters of the way through the cycle it went up to 140/70. This isnt life threatening but it was a lot higher than I would have liked given my baseline. It is now back to normal three months after the cycle has ended. So I am very happy, I am going to do it all again in a another couple of months and I am looking for another 7KG. I am not looking to be a huge BB, I just want to stand out in the crowd, which I already do for a guy my age but I want to look even better, it has been a life long goal which is finally about to come true thanks to AAS and this board.

[ace ventura]

seanw: You're 50?!
I would never have guessed that.. Thought you were on my age, somewhere around 22-27. Cool.

[letmein]

The biggest side effect for me is the cost. I have been on the same cycle for over 2 years. 1 iu GH, 200mg Cyp/week, 25mg Cytomel/day, .5 arimidex EOD, Saw Palmetto, DHEA, and Milk Thistle. I was previously a fat guy with a probable life expectancy of around 70. I am now 42 and expect to easily double that. I use doctor managed HRT to keep my good levels high and my bad levels low. All are within normal ranges for my age. Biggest thing to remember is that life is a marathon not a sprint! If one is good two is not always better.

[seanw]

seanw: You're 50?!
I would never have guessed that.. Thought you were on my age, somewhere around 22-27. Cool.

Thanks mate, I am told I act like a twenty year old. The funny thing is when I see that number I cant belive it either because I actually feel the same as I did when I was twenty. I will post some pics after my next cycle.

[Wimpy]

Hey my doctor put me on celebrex, administer my myself or trust my doctor. Hmmmmm.
Took it for a few years, no pumper problems. I think with any med or drug common sense and EDUCATION is most important. Since this little celebrex phase, I research all all drugs that could be used and tell him what I want to take. Then again I've never juiced and might not. Maybe I shouldn't be posting here at all. Maybe......

[needle]

Unlike most on hear, I've had a close call with Dbol that put me in the hospital almost 2 year ago! But when I joined AR I learned alot of info- so that it wouldn't happen again! Dbol just doesnt go well with my family, both of brothers had similar problems, but not as bad as me I should have known!

[ray26]

the only side effects from my cycle is some acne on my chest now which i never had before. and this is 5to 6months later from my last shot which was in late augost. ive had it for the past 3 1/2 months. i just started up on using dawn on my chest to see how that works and im gonna hit the tanning booth maybe that will help me. other then that i been ok

[Whitey]

the only side effects from my cycle is some acne on my chest now which i never had before. and this is 5to 6months later from my last shot which was in late augost. ive had it for the past 3 1/2 months. i just started up on using dawn on my chest to see how that works and im gonna hit the tanning booth maybe that will help me. other then that i been ok

You mean like the dish detergent, dawn?

[LuvMuhRoids]

OMG, I had the worst experience on steroids that anyone has ever seen!!!

I did a cycle and gained 50 pounds of lean muscle but.... I had to buy all new close because I cant fit in my XXL shirts anymore. Im cursed with buying over sized closes to fit my huge bodybuilding massive frame. Its so d a m n hard! Why didn't people warn me??? I hate you all, hate you all!!! You should have told me!!

[Whitey]

[Schwarz]

I haven't started my first cycle yet but a friend of mine was doing dbol, test e and winny. He got some bad liver pains 2 weeks in and had to go to hospital.

Schwarz

[Whitey]

I haven't started my first cycle yet but a friend of mine was doing dbol, test e and winny. He got some bad liver pains 2 weeks in and had to go to hospital.

Schwarz

Your buddy should've joined AR - we would've saved him a trip to the hospital.

[Schwarz]

Your buddy should've joined AR - we would've saved him a trip to the hospital.

Why's that?

[Whitey]

Why's that?

He wouldn't have had to go far on here to learn about the liver toxicity issues of stacking two methylated compounds.

[giomio]

i used their clen and t3, and honestly i didnt feel anything. i would take 260mcgs and only my hand would shake, and it wasnt even anoying it was just barely noticiable. it might have been real clean, but i always thought it was in the wrong ratios with their mix