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Thread: Doc calls asking if I used AAS..... acvice needed

  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rookiejay
    Thanks for your input bros. Sorry for a delayed response.

    I'll try to answer most of the questions.

    I'm currently on my 18th week of test and EQ (started with dbol) - this is the longest cycle I've ever done - I've had several 8 to 16 weeks cycles in the past.

    I don't think it was difficult for the doc to suspect that I was on AAS. I'm almost 40 yo - 195 and 7% BF.

    Anyway - I aked a few of my MD friends - they (off the record) suggested to get off the cycle first then do the tests. There sited several reasons for that (test accuracy and insurance were among the reasons) But they did insist that I do the tests ASAP.

    So, I got off the cycle and starting my PCT next week.
    Did the doctor show you your x-rays and specifically show you where the bone is supposedly thinning?

    There a few things you should consider, assuming that the doc you're talking about is not your normal doc, but one recommended/assigned by your company:
    1. Doctors who are conducting a physical for work shouldn't get so involved in your care if they were assigned to you by your work. Was this doc suggested to you by your company? If so, then you should request a copy of the x-rays and take them to YOUR doctor and discuss the situation.
    2. If this doc was recommended by the company, then don't tell this doctor about your steroid use, else it will go on record and your company might be notified--remember, the doc is doing a physical for your company.
    3. Some doctors make up the wildest stories to get patients to admit things when they are conducting "investigative work" or physicals for a company's employees.
    4. Some states have laws that allow insurance companies to deny an employee ALL workers' compensation benefits if it is found that the employee was using illegal drugs. These laws mainly target recreational drugs and alcohol--the ones that impair a persons judgement and ability to work. Although steroids don't often impair a person's judgement, they can. Furthermore, steroids are controlled substances and using them can be cause to deny you workers' compensations benefits.
    5. You're on EQ, so your RBC count is going to be elevated for a few months after you stop. There are also going to be several other signs of steroid use (such as skewed HDL and LDL cholesterol levels) that will last for 2-3 months or more after you stop using the steroids.
    6. If you want to be safe, and this is a company doctor doing your physical, then go to your own doc first, and get the tests done. If they're normal, you can either present the info to the company recommended doc or just let her draw your blood. Of course, if your blood work comes back from your doc skewed, then hold off getting tested by the company doc until you have normalized.

    Again, the above assumes that the doc you're talking about is not your normal doc, but one recommended/assigned by your company.

    Best of luck

  2. #42
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    If this is you normal physician, you will probably get a bill for that x-ray. Both my father and grandfather are docs, they are constantly fighting with insurance companies over procedures that aren't covered. When an insurance co. doesn't pay, the bill goes to the patient. It will be hard to justify an x-ray of the spine during a routine physical.

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    Current legislation in the US referred to as HIPPA (Helath Information Privacy Protection Act) prevents the Doc telling insurance companies, employers or anyone of your medical situation without your express written permission.

    You can tell the doc about AS use if you wish without concern over your privacy. He or she won't risk their license to practice medicine by disclosing your information. The only thing that might happen is the doc could ask you to find another physician unless you're willing to give up the gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magnum II
    Current legislation in the US referred to as HIPPA (Helath Information Privacy Protection Act) prevents the Doc telling insurance companies, employers or anyone of your medical situation without your express written permission.

    You can tell the doc about AS use if you wish without concern over your privacy. He or she won't risk their license to practice medicine by disclosing your information. The only thing that might happen is the doc could ask you to find another physician unless you're willing to give up the gear.
    If you're going to the doctor specifically for a physical and the company has picked the doctor, you usually have to sign a relase form allowing the doctor to disclose information to the company--else the company would not be able to access the information for which they needed you to take a physical.

    There are doctors who have relationships with companies and will certainly share your information without breaching the IPP Act.

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