I was gonna try it awhile back but Buff talked me out of it. He also had vision problems too if I remeber correctly.
Stay w/ t3...Much safer.
I was gonna try it awhile back but Buff talked me out of it. He also had vision problems too if I remeber correctly.
Stay w/ t3...Much safer.
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Agree...Originally Posted by SwoleCat
One of my friends on this board gave me his bottle cuz he was gona throw it in the trash. He said it was a living hell.
I am tempted to try it, cuz I still am a little chubby from being out for so long from my surgery.
But the risks dont seem like they are worth it.
Its one thing to possible grow some btch tits and its another thing to loose your vission!
When you hear several Mods and Vets telling you to stay away from something...its probably a good Idea to listen!
Originally Posted by BDTR
Amen.
Originally Posted by BDTR
One of the sides of DNP is cataracts...........so most times it just made yours worse.
yellow cum... now that sounds just plain scary
what do u guys think of lutein to prevent those cataracts/bad vision??
It's not actually.Originally Posted by jgg1221
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It wouldent be as scary if it tasted like lemonsOriginally Posted by jgg1221
i dont go over 400mgs of that sh*t...and on that dose i already feel like hell so i cant imagine going any higher than that
My last cycle was 21 days at 200mg per day and I did include lutein with my supps. I haven't seen it reccomended, but I think it's a good supplement addition anyway.Originally Posted by fred9
Originally Posted by joevette
do they sell it in supplement shops or where can you get it??
how many mg lutein do u use?...Originally Posted by joevette
Yeah, it's OTC. They've even started putting it in some multivitamins in very small ammounts. I'm not sure how much I was using, I already used up and threw out the bottle. It was 1 gelcap in the morning, not sure how many mg/ius were in each cap.Originally Posted by phwSSJ
Originally Posted by joevette
Thanks bro,
Its great when you learn stuff like this!
k cool...i also use one cap per day...contains 6mg luteine and 250mcg Zeaxanthine...Originally Posted by joevette
yellowing of the whites of your eyes is the first sign of serious kidney damage. I would discontinue all supps and meds and seek medical advice.
yellow eyes is one of the #1 signs of having hep c. I am not saying you have hep c but the yellowing has to be a sign of liver or kidney issues. IMO.
i thought dnp was liver/kidney friendly..
Yeah, but DNP is a different animal. It's the strongest dye you'll ever see and it basically dyes your insides while you're using it. I really don't think it effects you liver or kidneys in any way. I've read everything there is on it and nothing mentioned liver or kidney problems.Originally Posted by Fat Mike
that stuff is garbage. save your money and get something better bro
a dye it may be but dyes dont colur your eyes. the only thing that does that is kidney problems. DNP is a toxic compound. All toxic substances are filtered by the body so I would imagine kidney/liver problems would be possible.
Like i said... it's garbage... can lose weight almost as fast by diet and cardio.
Dude..Originally Posted by SplinterCell
i just1 finished a cycle sorry for the guys that were reading my thread, ive been swamped with work and havent had time to post. My overall results are not clear yet because I am still holding sub Q water. I called it quits after day 11, my 3rd day at 600mgs. Felt like hell would id imagine. But I would do it again. I tolerated whatever sides came and everything came in stride as I have read hundreds of times. DNP can be a great asset to one's arsenal but it shouldnt be taken lightly by any means.
Yeah, that's one of the main things I don't like about DNP. It makes you hold water while at the same time depleting muscle glycogen, so you really don't know how much fat you've lost until about a week after the cycle. Let us know how much you ended up losing.Originally Posted by meathead78
The guys that took 200 - 400 mg a day, what kind of results did you see?
I have heard of some people losing like a 1lb of fat a day?
Just curious.... thanks for the help.
People can say whatever they like about DNP, but I've used it before, and I'll use it again (hell, I'm on it right now). I experience almost no bad sides, and it works great (doesn't even interfere with my workouts). People just don't seem to get it that everyone can respond to the same compound differently. If you don't like how you feel on DNP don't use it, or if you're scared of it then don't use it. But to tell everyone to stay away from it just because of your experience is week. More people die from aspirin and ephedra in one year then in the entire 80 year history of DNP use.
ASPIRIN SIDE EFFECTS:
Damage to the lining of your stomach, prolonged bleeding time, wheezing, breathlessness, ringing in the ears, hearing loss, chronic catarrh & runny nose, headache, confusion, nausea, vomiting, GI upset, GI bleeding, ulcers, rash, allergic reactions, hives, bruising, abnormal liver function tests, liver damage, and hepatitis. If you take too much, the toxic effect is Kidney Damage, severe metabolic derangements, respiratory and central nervous system effects, strokes, fatal hemorrhages of the brain, spleen, liver, intestines & lungs and DEATH (300 to 500 reported deaths per year).
EPHEDRA SIDE EFFECTS:
* nervousness
* dizziness
* tremor
* alternations in blood pressure or heart rate
* headache
* gastrointestinal distress
* chest pain
* myocardial infarction
* hepatitis
* stroke
* seizures
* psychosis
* death
3308 adverse events for all dietary supplements, 1398 of these (42%) for the ephedra alkaloids
137 reports of death, 81 deaths (59%) associated with ephedra alkaloids
38 reports of myocardial infarction/heart attack, 32 reports (84%) associated with ephedra alkaloids
98 reports of cardiac arrhythmias, 62 (63%) associated with ephedra alkaloids
144 reports of hypertension, 91 (63%) associated with ephedrine alkaloids
85 reports of stroke, 69 (81%) associated with ephedra alkaloids
121 reports of seizure, 70 (58%) associated with ephedra alkaloids
Funny how I don't see people on this board screaming that no one should take aspirin or ephedra.
I don't look at DNP as an extreme measure. For me it's a very mild compound (and yes my sh*t is real, I cap it myself). I don't run stupidly high cycles, and when I started my first DNP cycle I went very slowly and tested out how I responded to it. There's also a big problem because a lot of people don't understand that because of DNP's 36hour half-life IT WILL BUILD UP! If you take 400mg ED then in no time at all you'll have blood levels of 1080mg (yes, over a gram).
Both clen and ephedra cause me 10 times more problems than DNP, but you don't see me telling everyone to stay away from them (and they've killed WAY more people than DNP). That's just how *I* react to them.
Oh, and DNP is both liver and kidney friendly. The reason your eyes (and all sorts of other things) turn yellow is because DNP is a very strong dye. Also DNP is FDA approved for human use in the United States, it's an ingredient in one of their dyes, and is used in many OTC products (I had the web page marked but then they redesigned their website and I haven't been able to find it again), it's just illegal to use for the purpose of weight loss.
Very good points SV-1. That was the first I had even heard of DNP being FDA approved as a dye and that's what I've been saying that it basically dyes your eyes temporarily.
I think people get the idea that DNP is so dangerous because it works so well. You take some and after a few days of dosing you get quite hot. You're not going to get that from an ECA or T3 and clen just makes me feel like a crack-head.
I've decided that atleast for me low dose cycles are the way to go. I've combined 200mg per day with inslulin pwo to prevent any muscle glycogen loss and I still lose a pound of fat per day with a good diet and cardio. DNP seems to be one of the few drugs that people want to push the limit with, and it's probably about the only one you shouldn't push the limits. I never see anyone seeing how much clen thay can use, you never see someone shooting for 600mcg of clen and T3 or 250mg of ephedrine. Just keep the doses low, safe, and comfortable.
good pointOriginally Posted by joevette
I totally agree.Originally Posted by joevette
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My Dnp Cycel went very well other then my yellow eyes, yellow piss, yellow jizz,101 body temp and 4 bloodie shozs. I lost a little more then 10lbs in 12 days my water is coming of very nicely and i am looking preety ripped....i would really have to think hard about doing another cycel .... i was hot as hell and i hate the heat ...good thing is day after i stoped the dnp my eyes went back to norm ...thanx for all your help guys
I think that people saying that they lose 1lb per day are BSing everyone. I used it for 15 days straight. First 10 days at 200mg and last 5 days at 400mg. I never got bad side effects at all. Just the sweats as expected. I lost a total of about 4lbs while on the cycle. Then after about 2 weeks off of it, the weight almost dissapeared overnight. All of a sudden I noticed that my waist was much smaller and none of my pants fit anymore. And my legs were more difined than ever before. But my weight loss didn't stop there. I kept slowly losing weight on into 2 months after being off. I've leveled out now at the mid 160's (166 yesterday). In late Dec of 04, I weighed 196lbs at the middle of my AAS cycle. So I lost about 30lbs within 3.5 months.Originally Posted by TallB4Small
It works. But I am now a big fan of the low dose with it. I'll probably never do 600mg per day since 400mg per day works wonders for me. The key with DNP is to not over do it. Don't be stupid.
Last edited by 9000rpm; 04-19-2005 at 10:49 AM.
what do you guys think of very long low dose dnp cycles...6+weeks..
not planning on doing it just gathering some information..greetz
you're wrong on that...i'm not arguing for or against DNP but..it IS in a class of it's own...the eye-discolouration would be due to it's extreme pigmentation abilities(inherent of dyes of that binding ability).Originally Posted by perfectbeast2001
ANyone that's handled DNP paste base knows first hand the reason why it MUST be capped prior to ingestion.Volatility aside, a capper knows that DNP dyes ANYTHING it comes in contact with: Teeth, fingers...porous tissue in general.
That in itself doesn't make it dangerous. My little brother right now has eye-discolouration from an unbelievably simple source: CARROTS....That's right. His family's diet was so high in caretenoids that it resulted in eye discolouration..unindicative of jaundice.
I did a search... and found that tissues are very receptive to discolouration...and that caretenoids and similar substances are apt to cause it.
It's not a 1+1=2 simple question.
Last edited by *Narkissos*; 04-19-2005 at 11:07 AM.
They're fine.Originally Posted by fred9
I think malachite green is a stronger dye, it gets everywhere even when used with perfect technique. This annoying quality is well noted in textbooks also.Originally Posted by joevette
Fred: Longer lower dosed cycles are the way to go IMO. Back in the 30's it was used for a year or more at a time for very overweight people. I'd still reccomend taking a bread every few weeks.
Powrlftr: I have no idea what that is, is it just a dye? Is malachite green used for something other than dying things?
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