New bie Test only

[desperado7]

[QUOTE=Mesomorphyl]MUSCLE Increased muscle strength and mass.

SEXUAL POWER Increased sexual potency and frequency.

ENERGY Increased energy , stamina and endurance.

MEMORY Improved mental functioning and ability.

MOOD Improves mood and feeling of well-being.

CONCENTRATION Improved concentration and focus.

Then yo need some muscle!

[Aboot]

Um, desperado7, why have you taken this so personally?

[desperado7]

Um, desperado7, why have you taken this so personally?

he started it!

[desperado7]

Um, desperado7, why have you taken this so personally?

ok I will leave him alone and ignore him!

[Aboot]

he started it!

No seriously. You've taken ownership of this arguement and I wanted to know what your stake in it is? You haven't been around the board long and you seem to be asking alot of questions and for advice from this ross guy, so I wanted to know why this arguement has become so serious for you?

[desperado7]

yesterday I placed a simple thread "about being tested for yor knowledge and then be classified according to oyur test results! which I dont think its going to happen! Just wanted to hear some opinions and he was on my back the whole thread! take it as payback for meso but ha its over ok! I dont want to bother any other members!

[Aboot]

yesterday I placed a simple thread "about being tested for yor knowledge and then be classified according to oyur test results! which I dont think its going to happen! Just wanted to hear some opinions and he was on my back the whole thread! take it as payback for meso but ha its over ok! I dont want to bother any other members!

Oh good, so it doesn't have anything about contributing good information that is safe and effective. Thanks for clearing that up.

[desperado7]

Oh good, so it doesn't have anything about contributing good information that is safe and effective. Thanks for clearing that up.

hey like I said! my apologies to you! not all the threads and responses to threds are full of safe and effective informations! Including all the bumps you see in the threads every day!

[bodyguardt]

The only thing what I would like to see is some reseachers but it seems to be there are no facts of gaining 15 lbs with Anavar only

What was your first cycle Meso?

[bodyguardt]

bump

[mule1983]

NOW when you come off cycle, you must recover from a MUCH DEEPER supression, which likely will make it VERY difficult to maintain your gains. SO....TEST is NOT The answer.

how can you be suppressed more than 100 percent? i am pretty sure that regardless of what you are taking youtr natural test production is at zero. you have no basis to be making suggestions like this

The netherlands... man what a place. i lived in Maastricht for 6 months last year studying there, cant wait to return

[TheMindOfRoss]

how can you be suppressed more than 100 percent? i am pretty sure that regardless of what you are taking youtr natural test production is at zero. you have no basis to be making suggestions like this

The netherlands... man what a place. i lived in Maastricht for 6 months last year studying there, cant wait to return

There is TESTICULAR supression and Pituaitary supression. Testosterone inhibits BOTH, and FASTER than any other steroid (save TREN)

[bodyguardt]

Mule
nice to hear you have been to Maastricht, let me know when you come back than i show you Amsterdam, hear from you

[Italian Stallion]

pardonez-moi,boys,but as you can also read in the steroids profiles section of this site,it is explicit that you should avoid using test for your first cycle because it is a strong aas and if you are natural you should use the easyest aas like primo,deca,winstrol.I'm i wrong?

[TheMindOfRoss]

pardonez-moi,boys,but as you can also read in the steroids profiles section of this site,it is explicit that you should avoid using test for your first cycle because it is a strong aas and if you are natural you should use the easyest aas like primo,deca,winstrol.I'm i wrong?

I am glad this thread is still open. Newbies can take TEST as a 1st cycle. It is a good OPTION. In my opinion, there are better options. You might not make as dramatic GAINS, but in my opinion, they will be safer and easier to maintain. Here are a few NEWBY cycle options


CYCLE #1

TEST Enanthate for 10 WEEKS. 250mgs TWICE a week. (or 500mgs once)
OR:
TEST Prop for 8-10 Weeks, 50-75Mg ED. Have nolva on hand, use 20mg ED ONLY if signs of gyno begin. Carry out normal PCT with Clomid. 300,100,50.

Cycle# 2

Anavar ONLY for 8 weeks. 40mgs ED. NO NEED for Clomid PCT. Clomid itself causes more sides than Var, so only use if your dosage exceeds 40mgs for over an 8-10 week period. Then, use of Clomid is justified. In OUR case, Tribex or Tribestan for 8 weeks should be sufficient. You may also use Eurycoma Longifolia(Tongkat Ali), which is also REMARKABLE for endoegenous test production!

Cycle #3

LOW DOSE D-bol!! (or simply use T-bol at normal doses instead). EVERY OLD SCHOOLER knows how potent Methandrostenelone is. MG for MG--it is more anabolic than EVEN the KING--TEST. Therefore, in dosages as low as 10mgs, gains in lean mass can be made with minimal water retention. Dianabol, contary to POPULAR OPINION--does NOT AROMATIZE EASILY--Rather, it converts to a MORE POTENT and more active estrogen in the body known as METHYLESTRADIOL. This is why estrogen related sides are very common with Dianabol. However, these sides can be alleviated altogether by running a LOW DOSE Dianabol cycle for 6 weeks. I would begin with 10mgs the 1st weeek, and up it to 15 when you feel comfortable. If you are still expereincing no sides at 3 weeks, you may up the dosage to 20mgs. I HOWEVER do not reccomend EXCEEDING 15mgs PER DAY (NEWBIES ONLY!), without having ARIMIDEX on hand. Dianabol used in conjunction with Arimi, is known as the POOR MANS ANAVAR.

Cycle #4

LOW DOSE Primobolan. 400mgs for 10 weeks. NO NEED to even explain Primo, right? Very mild, but effective ANABOLIC--mg for mg, only slightly less potent than Deca Durabolin. VERY LIGHT ON HPTA, does not CONVERT to ESTROGEN or DHT.


And these are the most effective Beginner Cycles. One may also OPT TO STACK VAR/PRIMO, or later on PRIMO/LOW DOSE DBOL. Or even, TEST,VAR, or TEST, PRIMO. These are all pretty safe cycles. BUT FOR A 1st CYCLE--only so that one can assess their individual TOLERANCE to these compounds, THESE should be their choices.

[TheMindOfRoss]

Bumpppppp to the new guys

[bodyguardt]

I am still pleased with all the information, special for me as an 44 year old guy with 15 year weight expierence and still natural.

I am glad this thread is still open. Newbies can take TEST as a 1st cycle. It is a good OPTION. In my opinion, there are better options. You might not make as dramatic GAINS, but in my opinion, they will be safer and easier to maintain. Here are a few NEWBY cycle options

Do you think that a newbie will gain more mass with Anavar (for the first time) as somebody who have taken some cycles already?

[Jantzen4k]

Bumpppppp to the new guys

dont bump this.


all your info and advice is wrong!!!!

[taiboxa]

MUSCLE Increased muscle strength and mass.

SEXUAL POWER Increased sexual potency and frequency.

ENERGY Increased energy , stamina and endurance.

MEMORY Improved mental functioning and ability.

MOOD Improves mood and feeling of well-being.

CONCENTRATION Improved concentration and focus.

YES you can develop gynocamastia. That is why you should use or at least have nolvadex on hand. Letrozole and anastrozole are aromataze inhibitors, instead of blocking the breast tissue it stops the conversion of test to estrogen.

and you wounder why people are ON year ROUND?!~

[Thegr8One]

and you wounder why people are ON year ROUND?!~

some ppl advise against long cycles
i say why the fu..
whiles i'm on i don't smoke
i dont drink
i eat much cleaner
i fukk harder
and feel better

[taiboxa]

some ppl advise against long cycles
i say why the fu..
whiles i'm on i don't smoke
i dont drink
i eat much cleaner
i fukk harder
and feel better

and i bet you look HOT too!

[Thegr8One]

and i bet you look HOT too!

yeAH but not like mind of ross he was too damn skinny

[bodyguardt]

So most guys go for Test and not for Anavar here

[taiboxa]

So most guys go for Test and not for Anavar here

you cant say that.. thats like..
everyone here prefers the backbone over the wrist?

[bodyguardt]

I see i have to start with Test and forget the discussion about Anavar. It will be my first cycle, only the injections are a bit scaring to me....